IRC log of html-wg on 2013-12-19

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Zakim, this will be html_wg
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ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
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Date: 19 December 2013
16:59:07 [Zakim]
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+Sam
16:59:54 [rubys]
rubys has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013OctDec/0019.html
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Zakim, call Mike
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ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
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+Mike
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trackbot, start meeting
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be html_wg
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ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
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Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
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Date: 19 December 2013
17:00:35 [paulc]
zakim, what is the code?
17:00:35 [Zakim]
the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
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+[Microsoft]
17:01:13 [paulc]
zakim, [Microsoft] is me
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+paulc; got it
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+??P9
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-??P9
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+[Microsoft]
17:02:27 [paulc]
zakim, who is on the phone?
17:02:27 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Sam, Mike, paulc, [Microsoft]
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+[Microsoft.a]
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+Plh
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+??P15
17:03:01 [jaymunro]
zakim, microsoft.a has me
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+jaymunro; got it
17:03:03 [paulc]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013OctDec/0019.html
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-??P15
17:03:48 [plh]
scribe: plh
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Topic: Action items
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action-237?
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action-237 -- Robin Berjon to Give us a revised overview of testing document - in 4 weeks -- due 2013-12-16 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/237
17:04:28 [rubys]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Dec/0013.html
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+??P15
17:04:40 [plh]
ACTION-237: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Dec/0013.html
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Notes added to ACTION-237 Give us a revised overview of testing document - in 4 weeks.
17:05:17 [plh]
q+
17:05:39 [plh]
Paul: we need to look at the document, and then see if it maintains the position from the original CfC
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17:06:22 [plh]
plh: having a legend on the document would help
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+[Microsoft.aa]
17:06:52 [adrianba]
zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
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+adrianba; got it
17:07:06 [plh]
... not sure what the priority tag means
17:07:16 [Eliot]
q+
17:07:24 [plh]
Paul: that's a request for the accessibility
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ack plh
17:07:35 [Eliot]
Per Robin's mail: The "priority" items come from the list that Erika and Denis made.
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ack next
17:08:09 [plh]
Eliot: look at Robin's email for the priority provenance
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plh: would be nice to have it in the document itself
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action-229?
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action-229 -- Paul Cotton to Check the status of the authoring spec -- due 2013-12-19 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/229
17:08:49 [plh]
Paul: Robin made progress on that front. it works on the editors of HTML 5.1
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s/editors/editors draft/
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... I sent some comments back to him
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... but would be nice to expose it to the WG
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... and apply to HTML 5.0
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... not sure if we should apply it to any other spec
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... I'll start the dialog with the editors
17:10:09 [paulc]
MRDV
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plh: best is to do the minimum to declare victory here
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Paul: agreed
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close action-237
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Closed action-237.
17:11:19 [plh]
Paul: I'll follow up on action 229
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Topic: Items closing this week
17:11:39 [plh]
Sam: CfC for MSE
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Dec/0053.html
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... we have a decision
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... to move to CR
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... so it's going to proceed to the Director
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... no objection
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Topic: Task Force reports
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Testing
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Sam: do we have Kris around?
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... let's skip it
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Ay11 TF
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a) The TF is runing a CfC to move longdesc to Recomendation as an extension spec.
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s/omen/ommen/
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Dec/0077.html
17:13:50 [paulc]
b) Lots of discussion about TF input on MSE multi-track support.
17:13:53 [plh]
Paul: it's getting support to publish as a separate REC
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Paul: the bootomline here is that the a11y tf still have broad concerns about a11y of video in HTML5
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... but realized that by commenting on MSE, they've been looking at the wrong place
17:14:40 [Zakim]
+Glenn
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c) The Canvas sub-team of the TF is processing Canvas CR bugs on focusring topic
17:15:22 [plh]
Paul: the Canvas subteam will meet on January 6
17:15:42 [plh]
... need to optimize to deal with the Canvas CR bugs first
17:16:01 [jaymunro]
q+
17:16:13 [plh]
... current estimates are 2-3 months. hoping we can do them faster
17:16:20 [rubys]
ack next
17:16:53 [plh]
Jay: on the a11y tf canvas subteam, we worked out two bugs so far. I think we'll be done very quickly, less a month
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... I'll move the custom focus ring bugs to L2
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Media TF
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Paul: MSE is going to CR
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... CfC passed
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... we dealt with the a11y comments on multi-tracks support
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... Director's transition meeting is later today
17:19:15 [plh]
... we spent time on EME
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... about 17 bugs open
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... most of them are in the hands of the editors, ie we have concrete proposals
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... so the number should go down fast
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Topic: AOB
17:20:03 [plh]
Sam: next telecon is on January 9
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plh: we can publish MSE earlier than January 9 btw
17:21:18 [plh]
Paul: the date in the document can be changed, but I wouldn't recommend to change the date of the minimum duration
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Happy Holidays to everyone.
17:21:37 [Eliot]
feels for Paul. :(
17:22:36 [plh]
Topic: Next meeting
17:22:37 [plh]
Sam: January 9
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... chaired by Paul
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Paul: I'll try to remember to add the testing tf report
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... I'll try to get Kris to attend
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-Mike
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[adjourned]
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-Plh
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-[Microsoft]
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-Sam
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-??P15
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-adrianba
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-Glenn
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-[Microsoft.a]
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-paulc
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HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Sam, Mike, paulc, [Microsoft], Plh, jaymunro, adrianba, Glenn
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01[13html01] 15erikadoyle pushed 2 new commits to 06CR: 02https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/ca1986c79c26...5132879fa2c2
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13html/06CR 146d8cb3d 15ianh: [giow] (1) Move all requirements about bidi out and just rely on CSS instead. Also, fix the CSS rules for <bdo>. Follow-up changes for W3C HTML5 CR bug 22326....
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13html/06CR 145132879 15ianh: [e] (0) Clarify bidi CSS rules interaction...
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