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21:43:35 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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21:43:37 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be INDIE
21:43:37 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_Indie()5:00PM scheduled to start in 17 minutes
21:43:38 <trackbot> Meeting: Independent User Interface Task Force Teleconference
21:43:38 <trackbot> Date: 04 December 2013
21:44:13 <janina> agenda?
21:44:18 <janina> Meeting: IndieUI Task Force Teleconference
21:44:18 <janina> Chair: Janina_Sajka
21:44:18 <janina> agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes
21:44:18 <janina> agenda+ Calendar Review and Updates Through January 2014
21:44:18 <janina> agenda+ Our Web Events WG Dependency--What Now?
21:44:21 <janina> agenda+ Editor's Report
21:44:23 <janina> agenda+ Events Requirements Status & Actions
21:44:26 <janina> agenda+ Events Testing Update
21:44:28 <janina> agenda+ User Context Update; FPWD Criteria Discussion
21:44:31 <janina> agenda+ User Context Issues & Actions https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/products/3
21:44:34 <janina> agenda+ Events Issues & Actions https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/products/2
21:44:37 <janina> agenda+ Scribe for our Next Teleconference (on 4 December at 22:00Z)
21:44:39 <janina> agenda+ Be Done
21:56:48 <Zakim> WAI_Indie()5:00PM has now started
21:56:55 <Zakim> +??P0
21:58:19 <Zakim> +??P1
21:58:26 <janina>  zakim, ??P1 isme
21:58:26 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P1 isme', janina
21:58:36 <janina>  zakim, ??P1 is me
21:58:36 <Zakim> +janina; got it
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21:59:41 <janina> zakim, ??P0 is Takishi
21:59:41 <Zakim> +Takishi; got it
22:00:05 <kurosawa> Takeshi Kurosawa
22:00:28 <janina> zakim, Takishi is kurosawa
22:00:28 <Zakim> +kurosawa; got it
22:02:22 <Zakim> +??P2
22:03:57 <Zakim> +??P3
22:04:06 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P3 is Michael_Cooper
22:04:06 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper; got it
22:04:16 <MichaelC> zakim, who is on the phone?
22:04:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see kurosawa, janina, ??P2, Michael_Cooper
22:04:20 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P2 is Andy_Heath
22:04:20 <Zakim> +Andy_Heath; got it
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22:05:35 <Zakim> +[Apple]
22:05:43 <jcraig> Zakim, Apple has jcraig
22:05:43 <Zakim> +jcraig; got it
22:05:51 <jcraig> Zakim, who is on the phone?
22:05:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see kurosawa, janina, Andy_Heath, Michael_Cooper, [Apple]
22:05:53 <Zakim> [Apple] has jcraig
22:06:43 <Zakim> -[Apple]
22:07:05 <MichaelC> scribe: andy
22:07:06 <Zakim> +[Apple]
22:07:18 <janina> zakim, take up item 1
22:07:18 <Zakim> agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina]
22:07:24 <jcraig> Zakim, Apple has jcraig
22:07:24 <Zakim> +jcraig; got it
22:07:40 <janina> regrets: jason, rich_simpson
22:10:25 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
22:10:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/04-indie-ui-minutes.html MichaelC
22:10:34 <andy> andy: schema.org has published 1.0 which is mostly accessibilityFeature and accessHazard with accessMode still to discuss
22:10:49 <janina> zakim, next item
22:10:49 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Calendar Review and Updates Through January 2014" taken up [from janina]
22:11:20 <andy> calendar review: next meet on 18th, then 8th Jan
22:11:41 <janina> Andy: Regrets in advance for the 18th
22:11:51 <janina> zakim, next item
22:11:51 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Our Web Events WG Dependency--What Now?" taken up [from janina]
22:12:21 <Zakim> -kurosawa
22:13:17 <Zakim> +??P0
22:13:40 <andy> Web Events WG dependency: Web Events bowed out of active participation with us and that group has folded - should we pursue two-groups organisation with Web Apps ?
22:14:14 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P0 is kurosawa
22:14:14 <Zakim> +kurosawa; got it
22:14:38 <andy> James: continue for now as-is
22:15:43 <andy> janina: can we continue as we are or is it a problem that web events have disappeared
22:15:54 <andy>  michael: I think it is not a problem
22:16:38 <andy> michael: effort of rechartering is not justified
22:17:00 <andy> publishing is as a WG not a TF
22:19:10 <andy> janina: want to be taken seriously mainstream not just as accessibility
22:20:13 <andy> several speakers: should we run it past Judy Brewer?
22:20:41 <andy> michael: lets do that but not worry about it
22:21:56 <andy> editors report: James: nothing to report (Thanksgiving)
22:22:18 <andy> james: some ore updates before the Xmas break
22:22:35 <andy> s/ore/more/
22:23:17 <andy> Michael:Requirements - to be migrated to the wiki and cleaned up but not progressed yet
22:25:27 <andy> janina: should we get a doc out now or wait until reqts is more fleshed out in January
22:27:06 <andy> some discussion about the development of user context requirements not currently in the User Contexts fpwd
22:27:32 <andy> Michael:review draft of events reqts in 2 weeks and publish to TR in Jan
22:28:25 <andy> janina: accepted
22:28:47 <Zakim> -kurosawa
22:29:14 <jcraig> s/Michael:Requirements/Michael: Requirements/g
22:29:28 <jcraig> s/Michael:review/Michael: review/
22:30:34 <Zakim> +??P0
22:30:56 <kurosawa> zakim, ??P0 is kurosawa
22:30:56 <Zakim> +kurosawa; got it
22:33:54 <andy> Janina: Testing - Jason not present
22:34:28 <andy> meeting adjourned early
22:34:36 <andy> next meeting 18th
22:34:42 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
22:34:44 <Zakim> -[Apple]
22:34:59 <andy> Zakim, bye
22:34:59 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were janina, kurosawa, Michael_Cooper, Andy_Heath, jcraig
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22:35:48 <andy> RRsagent, make minutes
22:35:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/04-indie-ui-minutes.html andy
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22:40:25 <andy> http://www.w3.org/2013/12/04-indie-ui-minutes.html
22:42:28 <andy> Attendees
22:42:28 <andy> Present
22:42:30 <andy> Regrets
22:42:31 <andy>     jason, rich_simpson
22:42:33 <andy> Chair
22:42:34 <andy>     Janina_Sajka
22:42:35 <andy> Scribe
22:42:36 <andy>     andy
23:11:16 <janina> janina has changed the topic to: IndieUI Teleconference; Wednesday 18 December at 22:00Z for 60 minutes; Zakim 46343#