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08:33:15 <fsasaki> meeting: MLW-LT WG
08:33:18 <fsasaki> chair: felix
08:33:23 <fsasaki> agenda: http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Madrid_November_2013_f2f#Tuesday_26th
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08:41:44 <fsasaki> topic: LIDER presentation from asun
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08:42:10 <fsasaki> slides are at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-multilingualweb-lt/2013Nov/att-0000/LIDER_and_MWeb-madrid.2013-11-26__asun_.pptx
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08:46:09 <fsasaki> serge: an example of linked open data
08:46:17 <fsasaki> s/data/data?
08:46:35 <fsasaki> asun: geographic data, library data, ... all converted to linked open data, available as RDF
08:47:01 <fsasaki> ... companies have migrated data to rdf. dbpedia, freebase, datasets related with music, ...
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08:48:19 <fsasaki> asun: let's suppose we have different data in libraries
08:48:36 <fsasaki> [example of variuos library sources]
08:48:59 <fsasaki> asun: a user wants to make research about a famour author
08:49:17 <fsasaki> .. normally she has to look into the separate library catalogues seperately
08:49:43 <fsasaki> .. lihked data is about bringing the data sources together
08:49:57 <fsasaki> .. since the data sources are in teh same format (RDF) they easily can be connected
08:50:19 <fsasaki> .. e.g. miguel de v. has just one identifier in all data sets, independent of the langugage
08:50:41 <fsasaki> .. more and more people start to publish data in RDF - visualization of linked open data cloud
08:50:51 <fsasaki> [example of library data]
08:51:19 <fsasaki> asun: everything in linked data is in RDF
08:51:32 <fsasaki> .. RDF is a W3C standard to represent data on the Web
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08:51:53 <fsasaki> .. data model is very simple: there is a subject , a property and a value
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08:52:14 <fsasaki> .. example: a person (sub) is the author (property) of the painting (value)
08:52:46 <fsasaki> .. now another triple added to the existing ones
08:53:13 <fsasaki> .. the data is normally not built manually, e.g. by transforming existing data to RDF
08:53:23 <fsasaki> .. important part is: we have two levels
08:53:27 <fsasaki> .. content and data level
08:53:56 <fsasaki> .. on content level: person is writing a book, etc.
08:54:24 <fsasaki> .. for each item on the content level we provide a URI: e.g. URI for a person, the book, the property "author" etc.
08:55:00 <fsasaki> .. e.g. URI from spanish national library of author "Miguel de Cervantes"
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08:56:02 <fsasaki> .. URI is provided by the authority in the field: here the spanish national library
08:56:39 <fsasaki> .. you can use your own vocabulary to create the data, or use existing ones
08:56:58 <fsasaki> .. the model is in RDFS: it defines what URIs you can use in the content.
08:57:45 <fsasaki> .. in order to use interlink data, you use the sameAs property. You write a triple like: Cervantes(URI of spanish library) is sameAs Cervantes(URI of a world wide library)
08:57:54 <fsasaki> asun: there are tools for discovering these kind of links
08:58:31 <fsasaki> .. when I have the URIs, I can use them for browsing the data
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08:59:11 <fsasaki> [example of Cervantes URI browsed in spanish dbpedia = RDF data source generating from wikipedia]
08:59:26 <fsasaki> serge: what tool are you working with?
08:59:45 <fsasaki> asun: various tools: generating RDF, creating links, visualization of data, ...
09:01:12 <fsasaki> .. the tool we have for browsing is here http://dbpedia.org/page/Miguel_de_Cervantes
09:01:49 <fsasaki> [above link is from English dbpedia]
09:02:34 <fsasaki> asun: key points about linked data are: we need models, data to be transformed to RDF, and data to be stored on the Web to query it
09:02:53 <fsasaki> serge: the tool that you click on - is that public?
09:02:59 <fsasaki> asun: sure
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09:04:28 <fsasaki> [visualization of Cervantes links, taken from dbpedia data source]
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09:08:04 <fsasaki> asun: if we include all the multilingual information into RDF, somebody can use the data in her own language
09:08:24 <fsasaki> .. currently there is not a lot of information in linked data in different languages
09:08:34 <fsasaki> serge: the ontology will be different depending on the language
09:09:06 <fsasaki> .. e.g. Cervantes will be detailed in Spanish, but other items will be more detailed in other languages
09:09:38 <fsasaki> asun: we have done work in this area, see thesis from Elena - and the lemon lexicon model we can deal with that
09:10:01 <fsasaki> pedro: it is not critical for them, they can build applications with these differences
09:10:21 <fsasaki> asun: example of different taxonomies of fishes, e.g. more details in Japan
09:10:49 <fsasaki> .. the point is: if we have a model e.g. in the library domain, the socalled IFLA model
09:11:01 <fsasaki> .. it is not difficult to translate the model to other languages
09:11:25 <fsasaki> serge: true - the object "certain fish" may have different names
09:11:39 <fsasaki> .. but what to do with expressions of snow
09:11:53 <fsasaki> .. some area of culture are bigger in one language than in others
09:12:03 <fsasaki> asun: sure, but we can map the differences
09:12:21 <fsasaki> .. with different approaches
09:12:40 <fsasaki> elena: we have investigated how to deal with cultural discripencaies
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09:14:29 <fsasaki> pedro: this is a mechanism to relate information
09:14:55 <fsasaki> serge: ontologies are different in different languages
09:15:16 <fsasaki> asun: sure - but some parts can be the same, and there are different ways to interlink between languages
09:17:47 <fsasaki> asun: so we are aware of the problem - but there are ontologies that have been built that show consensus
09:17:51 <fsasaki> .. there are different approaches
09:18:21 <fsasaki> .. the topic of localization and cultural aspects are important
09:19:22 <fsasaki> ... in LIDER we want to see: how can the data created as linked data can be used for natural language processing
09:20:44 <fsasaki> [presentation continued, slide 5]
09:21:03 <fsasaki> s/presentation/LIDER presentation/
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09:22:57 <fsasaki> arle: will make a different visualization of the "LOD is dominated by English" slide
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09:29:49 <fsasaki> "Linguisic Linked Open Data Cloud": language resources converted to RDF
09:30:42 <fsasaki> asun: linguistic linked open data can help to see to improve natural language processing services
09:30:54 <fsasaki> .. and the NLP services can help to improve / evaluate what we have as LOD
09:32:54 <fsasaki> asun: project is about gathering a community
09:33:21 <fsasaki> .. question is: what extensions do we need to the linked data cloud for NLP / content analytics
09:33:47 <fsasaki> .. we want to create not general LOD resources, but 3LD: Linguistic Linked Licensed Data
09:34:00 <fsasaki> .. linguistic LOD is a subset
09:34:21 <fsasaki> .. important: this is not about open data
09:34:33 <fsasaki> .. this is about linguistic data. Some can be open, some can be closed
09:35:07 <fsasaki> .. there is also a group in W3C working on how to express license information in RDF
09:35:47 <fsasaki> .. some instituations can get new business models by having their data in that way avail.
09:35:57 <fsasaki> dave: a lot of linked data has no license information at all
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09:36:10 <fsasaki> asun: important point
09:36:22 <fsasaki> .. the license aspect in linked data is real chaos
09:36:57 <fsasaki> dave: people publish data without license detail
09:37:09 <fsasaki> .. so commercial companies that want to use the data, you don't know if you can use it
09:37:27 <fsasaki> asun: RDF is a technology to do something
09:37:42 <fsasaki> .. nothing more
09:37:52 <fsasaki> .. the difference to e.g. an oracle data base is: RDF is a standard
09:38:05 <fsasaki> .. but what you do with it with regards to licenses depends on you
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09:39:14 <fsasaki> pedro: if you present this to globalization / localization world
09:39:23 <fsasaki> .. they won't see themselves in the picture
09:39:43 <fsasaki> .. the gap between language technology and localization is huge
09:39:48 <fsasaki> asun: that is an important point
09:40:17 <fsasaki> .. we decided that we will focus not only on NLP, but also translation, to attract also the localization community
09:40:43 <fsasaki> .. LIDER has three goals: community building, industry use cases, and a roadmap / reference architecture
09:42:36 <fsasaki> asun: we want to explore: which task would require linked data
09:42:45 <fsasaki> .. and see: which type of service could be provided
09:44:27 <fsasaki> slides are now at http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/File:LIDER_and_MWeb-madrid.2013-11-26_asun.pptx
09:45:12 <fsasaki> serge: this is a big topic
09:46:06 <fsasaki> ..  the "gala audience" (language service providers") are just about generating money - they don't have time to think about big things
09:46:25 <fsasaki> .. so what you presented is great, but how do we present it to the LSPs
09:47:50 <fsasaki> davidF: there is a big divide beween "text community" and "data community"
09:48:05 <fsasaki> .. we need to bring these together
09:48:46 <fsasaki> serge: these technologies may generate new business opportunities for the industry
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09:50:44 <fsasaki> [presentation continued, slide 12]
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10:01:52 <fsasaki> asun: need to gather feedback from data community and language community, via roadmapping workshops
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10:04:27 <fsasaki> asun: communities to approach: also libraries, dublin core (but very general vocabulary, ...) etc.
10:05:13 <fsasaki> olaf-michael: we saw in the MLW-LT group that it helps to have representatives from the various communities
10:05:35 <fsasaki> .. part of the outreach it may make sense to mention the communities that may be interested in contributing
10:05:49 <fsasaki> asun: the roadmapping ws for the 2nd year are open, topic wise
10:06:15 <fsasaki> .. these roadmapping ws are not conferences, but with the focus of going into depth in a topic
10:11:36 <fsasaki> richard: need to lialise with w3c WG, e.g. data area
10:11:39 <fsasaki> .. bring phil in
10:12:31 <fsasaki> s/phil/phil archer/
10:13:47 <fsasaki> dave: issue with open data is: how to make money out of that
10:14:00 <fsasaki> .. the localization industry can help to find such use cases
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10:21:09 <fsasaki> discussion on what is needed to make the technology discussed in LIDER avail. for the localiazation industry
10:21:17 <fsasaki> s/localiazation/localization/
10:21:49 <fsasaki> asun: the linked data value chain is not analyzed yet
10:22:01 <fsasaki> .. the chain will be different depending on the use case and the community involved
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10:54:58 <fsasaki> topic: FALCON project
10:55:40 <fsasaki> .. TCD, DCU, XTM, Interverbum and easylink are partners
10:56:21 <fsasaki> .. started in October. Learned from industry partners: don't explain linked open data, but rather start with the benefits
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10:57:26 <fsasaki> scribe: dvilasuero
10:59:18 <omstefanov> is there a link to dave's presentation?
11:01:24 <fsasaki> omstefanov, not yet, will provide that later
11:01:38 <omstefanov> :-(
11:06:04 <fsasaki> s/easylink/EasyLing/
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11:07:06 <dvilasuero> dave: FALCON brings together expertise from academia and vendors within the field of localization, translation and Linked Data, working mainly towards interoperability
11:10:04 <dvilasuero> creating an Open Schema and a SaaS platform for language service providers, with special attention to workflows
11:11:36 <dvilasuero> dave: W3C provenance vocabularies as a important
11:11:59 <dvilasuero> s/a/an/
11:12:20 <dvilasuero> mechanism for localization processes and workflows
11:18:31 <fsasaki> an older FALCON presentation: http://www.lt-innovate.eu/system/files/attachments/3.%20falcon-%20Dave%20Lewis.pdf
11:18:55 <fsasaki> I'll upload the one presented today later
11:20:12 <dvilasuero> ??: european bodies want to have their own linguistic data and not depend of external companies
11:21:06 <fsasaki> project web site at http://www.falcon-project.eu
11:21:10 <dvilasuero> that is the reason why EU is funding this kind of projects (e.g., FALCON, Lider)
11:22:11 <dvilasuero> asun: q, Linguistic Linked Data as a replacement for machine translation memories, how do you foresee this situation?
11:22:28 <fsasaki> s/q, //
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11:23:20 <dvilasuero> Dave: Integration LOD with existing tools and process rather than substituting them
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11:24:47 <dvilasuero> asun: Dynamics and synchronization are key for translation memories and processes and this is still an open issue for many Linked Data systems
11:25:28 <dvilasuero> Dave: Provide the producers with the mechanisms for publishing and sharing their resources
11:26:04 <dvilasuero> pedro: The LD paradigm is a shift from strings to concepts and that should be taken into account
11:27:03 <dvilasuero> pedro: we should talk about LD as another resource not a substitution of for example translation memories
11:28:15 <dvilasuero> dave: FALCON is driven more from direct vendor technological needs, trying to solve some of their specific use case in localization processes.
11:28:52 <dvilasuero> dave: Some technology will be open source, other will be kept by vendors and integrated within their systems
11:33:23 <dvilasuero> dave: there are a lot of different components that need to be built to leverage LD: URI/L persistence, scalability, etc.
11:34:17 <dvilasuero> ??: TAUS, initiative about sharing data, apis, etc.
11:35:16 <fsasaki> speaker is olaf-michael
11:35:45 <dvilasuero> s/??/olaf-michael/
11:36:31 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Madrid_November_2013_f2f#Tuesday_26th
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11:38:08 <fsasaki> topic: MLW workshop planning
11:42:57 <dvilasuero> fsasaki: the key behind the success of MLW is its broad and general focus, integrating participants from different sectors and backgrounds (LOC world, LTS, and now Data community)
11:43:44 <fsasaki> http://www.multilingualweb.eu/documents/rome-workshop/rome-program
11:44:23 <dvilasuero> fsasaki: For last event in Rome, the workshop was organized into different thematic sessions
11:44:38 <dvilasuero> ... user, data, translation, etc.
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11:45:53 <dvilasuero> ... MLW WS is not an academic workshop, in terms of community and effort needed for organizing it
11:46:28 <fsasaki> http://www.multilingualweb.eu/documents/rome-workshop/rome-cfp
11:46:34 <dvilasuero> ... preparation of the WS involves a lot of effort in identifying key players within each topic, sector, etc.
11:47:39 <dvilasuero> ... regular phonecalls to pull key players, rather than selecting just based on academic contributions
11:48:51 <dvilasuero> ... the spirit of the MLW WS will be kept, Linked Data as a dedicated session and also a third day for the Lider roadmapping workshop
11:49:31 <dvilasuero> ... discussion about the dates will take place after lunch
11:51:34 <dvilasuero> asun: It could be interesting to provide intro of or short tutorial on LD within the MLW WS
11:52:42 <dvilasuero> ??: introduction could happen offline, provided in advance to participants from industry. This could be more productive than a pure educational session
11:53:21 <dvilasuero> ... there's a process of digestion, you need to give vendors and services providers time to analyze the impact of new technologies
11:56:08 <dvilasuero> fsasaki: articulate the story behind multilingualweb brand and its evolution.
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13:16:20 <fsasaki> topic: WS dates
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13:18:15 <fsasaki> http://www.multilingual.com/events.php?pageNum_rsEvents=1
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13:21:46 <omstefanov> Felix: JIAMCATT 2013 is 23-25 April 2014 at the Council of Europe (CoE), Strasbourg, France
13:25:16 <fsasaki> first check of current upm campus is avail.; if not then check the camino; if not go to upm remote campus
13:35:41 <fsasaki> proposal: WS day 1: 1 april
13:35:53 <fsasaki> WS day 2: 2 april
13:36:07 <fsasaki> afternoon of day 2: roadmapping WS as dedicated event
13:48:50 <fsasaki> dates: 13-14 may, fixed
13:49:25 <fsasaki> action: felix to talk to jaap about open space session
13:49:25 <trackbot> Created ACTION-585 - Talk to jaap about open space session [on Felix Sasaki - due 2013-12-03].
13:55:28 <fsasaki> 6-7, or 7-8 may new options
13:58:43 <fsasaki> http://www.multilingualweb.eu/
14:00:32 <fsasaki> action: felix to bring mlw ws through w3c mgmt within the next 2 weeks
14:00:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-586 - Bring mlw ws through w3c mgmt within the next 2 weeks [on Felix Sasaki - due 2013-12-03].
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14:02:21 <fsasaki> topic: PC
14:03:30 <fsasaki> approach encarna lous about pc
14:04:02 <fsasaki> invite original PC people back
14:04:49 <fsasaki> felix will write mail to all previous PC members and the LIDER people. Confirmation of PC will be done on Monday
14:05:09 <omstefanov> what about those who raised their hands now?
14:05:49 <fsasaki> topic: timing of cfp
14:06:06 <fsasaki> publish cfp before christmas
14:06:40 <fsasaki> http://www.multilingualweb.eu/documents/rome-workshop/rome-cfp
14:07:32 <fsasaki> contact multilingualmag about calendar
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14:10:14 <fsasaki> need to have keynote speakers
14:10:42 <fsasaki> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/multilingualweb-pc/
14:11:37 <fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/wiki/WS6
14:14:05 <fsasaki> topic: MLW branding
14:15:14 <fsasaki> richard explains MLW logo reasoning
14:21:25 <fsasaki> richard: lider logo like in http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/File:LIDER_and_MWeb-madrid.2013-11-26_asun.pptx presentation is fine, with MLW included
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14:59:33 <fsasaki> topic: MLW web page
14:59:54 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Nov/0054.html
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15:03:00 <fsasaki> http://www.multilingualweb.eu/
15:04:16 <fsasaki> "home" "workshops" "projects" tab. Under "projects" a pull down that links to the projects. LIDER on the tab, then MLW-LT, then original MLW
15:04:27 <fsasaki> "blog" section would go away
15:05:05 <fsasaki> "about" and "links" would be part of the project specific tabs
15:06:29 <fsasaki> idea is to reorganize the content within the next weeks to have the dedicated LIDER section
15:08:31 <fsasaki> asun: how to announce LIDER event?
15:08:56 <fsasaki> send a mail to richard and felix
15:09:29 <fsasaki> daniel: aggregate on MLW portal #lider-eu
15:09:53 <fsasaki> richard: we will look into that, depends on ERCIM based setup of the portal
15:10:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/26-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
15:10:14 <dvilasuero> \me thank you richard and felix
15:10:39 <fsasaki> topic: L3D survey
15:10:41 <r12a> np dvilasuero
15:10:45 <fsasaki> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D3sEfmS746CWHZ1U3rep8KwHpgTo00qY6jGkDDjPrQg/edit
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15:22:09 <fsasaki> asun: add data patterns on how to create and deploy linked data
15:23:19 <fsasaki> oxygen example at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6zIW6blF5k
15:27:16 <fsasaki> going through the survey
15:27:30 <fsasaki> tadej: information retrieval & search are missing
15:27:34 <fsasaki> .. also recommender systems
15:27:45 <fsasaki> .. not strictly nlp, but fallls into the bucket
15:27:56 <fsasaki> .. some things are individual NLP tasks, some are like features for a system
15:29:11 <fsasaki> dave: good points, will also pass that around in cngl
15:29:28 <fsasaki> s/fallls/falls/
15:30:00 <fsasaki> tadej: you should not go from technology but from features, e.g. "this feature can search for synonyms"
15:30:14 <fsasaki> .. include also sentiment analysis, content classification
15:31:46 <fsasaki> topic: arle about qtlp and qt21
15:40:33 <fsasaki> http://www.qt21.eu/
15:49:10 <fsasaki> arle: media is important too - focus on tv subtiteling in various language
15:49:17 <fsasaki> s/language/languages/
15:54:46 <fsasaki> elena: for a human translator the audience is important when applying metrics
15:54:51 <fsasaki> arle: you can specify that
15:55:04 <fsasaki> http://mlwlt.moravia.com/mlwlt-web-test/Presentation.aspx
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16:03:27 <fsasaki> topic: h2020 topics
16:03:46 <fsasaki> open source tools in more ergonomic fashion
16:04:27 <fsasaki> based on open web platform
16:05:56 <fsasaki> funding open source tools - web service for readiness and beyond
16:06:36 <fsasaki> basic corpora to develop open source tools in many languages
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16:07:12 <fsasaki> provide a model to work better taking also legal issues into account
16:07:53 <fsasaki> its2 in a box - end2end implementation
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16:08:27 <fsasaki> drupal with preloaded plugins, like "moses for human beings"
16:09:13 <fsasaki> having metadata generated automatically (not only text analysis, also quality checking etc.)
16:09:56 <fsasaki> extend its2 not to cover only markup but other applications, as a general annotation mechanism
16:09:58 <tadej> http://code.google.com/p/moses-for-mere-mortals/
16:10:06 <fsasaki> support for localization in javascript
16:11:34 <fsasaki> evangelize - best practice documentation on how to use its2 in practice, how to convince the content providers to use the technology
16:12:43 <fsasaki> bring its2 closer to semantic web - semantic MT / semantic web search
16:13:01 <fsasaki> have more automatic annotaiton, so that we have data
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16:14:28 <fsasaki> its2 - evangelization, adoption; how to direct h2020 calls with input from LIDER
16:15:36 <fsasaki> bring semantic technologies to certain task - cross lingual data access. develop the critical mass of linked data + core technologies (cross lingual core tec tasks)
16:16:43 <fsasaki> bringing multilingual linked open data cloud together with MT community and localization
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16:17:58 <fsasaki> briding localization and linked data and discover relevant implementations
16:19:13 <fsasaki> make its2 the default
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16:20:35 <fsasaki> work in integration linport and its2
16:20:57 <fsasaki> have xliff 2.0 finished
16:21:18 <fsasaki> to deliver xliff to developers - its2 is a start on the metadata path
16:22:03 <fsasaki> a great fuzzy matcher
16:22:39 <fsasaki> s/matcher/matcher for TM, taking ontologies and other opportunities into account/
16:23:37 <fsasaki> build a platform or a set of services to help users to use the resources
16:23:46 <fsasaki> discover resources automatically
16:24:37 <fsasaki> make annotation process more ergonomic and integrate user into a feedback loop in annotations
16:25:21 <fsasaki> what changes if you look at documents (not web content) with other structures and tools
16:26:10 <fsasaki> making it easier to annotate / create links, improve quality of links in a social process
16:26:24 <fsasaki> dealing with multimedia content
16:26:36 <fsasaki> s/content/content (e.g. audio tracks)/
16:27:20 <fsasaki> dealing with other types of content (javascript, media formats) for annotating content
16:27:36 <fsasaki> work with personalized content
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16:30:11 <fsasaki> xliff 2.0 finish; related: open source cat tools
16:31:13 <fsasaki> more support for user interfaces
16:35:20 <fsasaki> tools for injecting various types of standardized metadata
16:36:17 <fsasaki> reference set of javascript etc. libraries to do CAT tool processing
16:36:28 <fsasaki> leverage "open web platform" technologies
16:38:01 <fsasaki> demo of jquery library http://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/demos/its2-in-the-browser.html
16:38:12 <fsasaki> (library developed by cocomore)
16:38:40 <fsasaki> stop defining XML file formats, but rather object models
16:40:39 <fsasaki> have more MLW workshops, also outside Europe
16:40:54 <fsasaki> publishing a "beginners guide on ITS"
16:41:12 <fsasaki> add back directionality / ruby into ITS
16:41:43 <fsasaki> looking at data formats for names / addresses / ...
16:42:28 <fsasaki> gather international typographic requirements, and implement the things in tools (browsers, editing tools, ...)
16:42:44 <fsasaki> review core w3c specs for i18n / l10n issues
16:44:03 <fsasaki> tool for automatic / semiautomatic pre-editing / annotation
16:45:37 <fsasaki> not only cat tool but computer assistant "knowledge tool", including knowledge exploitation
16:46:06 <fsasaki> disruptive technology - MT machine
16:46:14 <fsasaki> s/machine/machine learning and other methods
16:49:22 <fsasaki> allowing the data experts to work with MT and other applications, bringing in their data
16:50:21 <fsasaki> [discussion on open source cat tools market share]
16:50:37 <fsasaki> s/data/data and knowledge/
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16:53:42 <fsasaki> automatic annotation / UI to make the annotation easier, the rest will follow?
16:59:19 <fsasaki> adjourned
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