IRC log of ua on 2013-10-31

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/10/31-ua-irc
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RRSAgent, make logs public
16:55:30 [Zakim]
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Zakim, this will be WAI_UAWG
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_UAWG()1:00PM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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Meeting: User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 31 October 2013
16:55:41 [allanj]
rrsagent, set logs public
16:57:17 [allanj]
agenda+ finish survey
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https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20131016/
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agenda+ testing & implementations
16:57:23 [Greg]
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regrets: kelly, eric
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WAI_UAWG()1:00PM has now started
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+Jeanne
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+Jim_Allan
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+Greg_Lowney
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+[IPcaller]
17:01:47 [allanj]
zakim, IPcaller is really Jan
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+Jan; got it
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+Kim_Patch
17:04:47 [allanj]
scribe: allanj
17:06:03 [allanj]
zakim, agenda?
17:06:03 [Zakim]
I see 2 items remaining on the agenda:
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1. finish survey [from allanj]
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2. testing & implementations [from allanj]
17:09:11 [allanj]
China WAI groups attending- UA, IndieUI, PG
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we will have a phone bridge over whatever time you are available
17:11:50 [allanj]
Monday Tues morning 9-12 (china time), 12 hours difference with east coast time
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zakim, open item 2
17:12:11 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "testing & implementations" taken up [from allanj]
17:12:41 [allanj]
will be building spreadsheet of implementation,
17:13:47 [allanj]
Greg will create a table of SC.
17:14:22 [allanj]
When we work in China, monday will be Sunday evening on East coast
17:15:07 [Jan1]
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20131111&p1=33&p2=250&p3=234
17:15:29 [allanj]
on Monday from 3-5 there will be the Launch of China accessibility group (Jim and Jeanne will not be in the room)
17:15:39 [allanj]
Skype will be available
17:16:33 [allanj]
s/we will have a phone bridge over whatever time you are available/we will NOT have a phone bridege
17:16:39 [Jan1]
So 9-12 Monday morning in Beijing is 8-11pm Sunday ET and 5-8pm Sunday PT
17:17:33 [allanj]
s/we will have a phone bridge over whatever time you are available/we will NOT have a phone bridge
17:17:46 [allanj]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/31-ua-minutes.html allanj
17:22:51 [allanj]
js: we will discuss & collect implementations,
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... may discuss testing, and craft items
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gl and kp will be available the entire time, if needed. just Skype them
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*** email Jeanne your skype name ***
17:29:46 [Zakim]
-Jan
17:30:37 [allanj]
zakim, close item 2
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agendum 2, testing & implementations, closed
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I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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1. finish survey [from allanj]
17:30:46 [allanj]
zakim, open item 1
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agendum 1. "finish survey" taken up [from allanj]
17:31:06 [allanj]
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20131016/
17:35:15 [allanj]
topic: 2 1.4.1 1.4.2 text scale change to text size
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https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20131016/results#xq3
17:36:52 [allanj]
gl: size implies point or some fixed unit, were scale is fluid
17:37:25 [allanj]
... 1.4.1 should be scale for page, 1.4.2 should be size for elements
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this was decided in 10/17 call
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topic: 3. 1.4.1 IER
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https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20131016/results#xq4
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gl: Proposed intent
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Users with some types of disabilities have difficulty reading pages that use normally-formatted text. Some users with low vision, dyslexia, and related conditions cannot read normally-formatted text. However, they can read text that has a format customized to their individual needs (e.g. larger letters, different font, more spacing). On the other hand, users with some cognitive disabilities,...
17:44:17 [allanj]
...or who need to reduce the number of commands they enter to scroll through a document, may need to fit more information on the screen (e.g. smaller letters or spacing). Users need to access a wide range of font sizes, styles, colors, and other attributes in order to find the combination that works best for their needs. When providing preference settings and view options, it is important to...
17:44:18 [allanj]
...avoid making assumptions that would limit the user’s formatting choices.
17:47:20 [KimPatch]
Users with some cognitive disabilities, or who need to reduce the number of commands they enter to scroll through a document, may need to fit more information on the screen (e.g. smaller letters or spacing).
17:49:49 [KimPatch]
Users with some cognitive disabilities and those who need to reduce the number of commands needed to scroll through a document, may need to make adjustments so they can fit more information on the screen (e.g. smaller letters or spacing).
17:54:04 [KimPatch]
Users with some types of disabilities have difficulty reading pages that use normally-formatted text. For example,
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18:14:22 [Greg]
"Lee has low vision from albinism and when the background is white, it is hard for her to read and hurts her eyes. She changes the colors in her operating system to white text on a black background. *However, many web pages specify their own colors, so she adjusts the user preferences in her browser to always use the system colors (or another set of colors of her choosing), regardless of how...
18:14:23 [Greg]
...the pages are authored.*"
18:18:48 [allanj]
change second name to Betty-Sue who has low vision from nystagmus and ...
18:25:14 [allanj]
Betty Sue who has low vision from nystagmus and has difficulty seeing small fonts. The browser on her computer provides 5 font sizes. However, the largest isn't big enough. The browser settings provide an option to override the 5 font sizes with customized font range, so that Betty Sue can select the specific font size she needs.
18:26:58 [allanj]
Betty Sue has low vision from nystagmus and has difficulty seeing small fonts. The browser on her computer provides five font sizes. However, the largest isn't big enough. The browser settings provide an option to override the five font sizes with customized font range, so that Betty Sue can select the specific font size she needs.
18:29:02 [allanj]
Users with some types of disabilities have difficulty reading pages that as the author has formatted the text.
18:30:20 [allanj]
Users with some types of disabilities cannot read text as the author has formatted it.
18:30:46 [allanj]
Users with some types of disabilities cannot read text the way the author has formatted it.
18:31:37 [allanj]
rrsagent, make minutes
18:31:37 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/31-ua-minutes.html allanj
18:32:16 [Zakim]
-Kim_Patch
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-Jim_Allan
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-Greg_Lowney
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-Jeanne
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WAI_UAWG()1:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Jeanne, Jim_Allan, Greg_Lowney, Jan, Kim_Patch
18:42:41 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make logs public
18:42:48 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/31-ua-minutes.html jeanne