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14:25:27 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
14:25:27 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
14:25:28 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
14:25:28 <trackbot> Date: 30 October 2013
14:25:37 <shadi> zakim, this is rd
14:25:37 <Zakim> ok, shadi; that matches WAI_RDWG()10:30AM
14:25:46 <shadi> zakim, who is online?
14:25:46 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, shadi.
14:25:49 <Justin> Justin has joined #rd
14:26:01 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:26:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a]
14:26:14 <Vivienne> Zakim, IPcaller is me
14:26:14 <Zakim> +Vivienne; got it
14:26:22 <Justin> zakim, IPcaller.a is me
14:26:22 <Zakim> +Justin; got it
14:26:59 <Zakim> +??P28
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14:27:31 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:27:39 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:27:39 <Zakim> +Peter_Thiessen; got it
14:27:44 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, mute me
14:27:44 <Zakim> Peter_Thiessen should now be muted
14:28:18 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:28:52 <sharper> trackbot, start meeting
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14:28:55 <sharper> zakim, please clear the agenda
14:28:55 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:28:56 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
14:28:56 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
14:28:57 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
14:28:57 <trackbot> Date: 30 October 2013
14:29:16 <sharper> Chair: Harper_Simon
14:29:22 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, unmute me
14:29:22 <Zakim> sorry, Peter_Thiessen, I don't know what conference this is
14:29:22 <sharper> Agenda+ Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments) [sharper]
14:29:31 <sharper> Agenda+ User Note Draft [yehya christos]
14:29:39 <sharper> Agenda+ E-Learning Symposium Progress http://goo.gl/bbjL92 [justin silvia]
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14:29:46 <sharper> Agenda+ Accreditation of Websites Status [vivienne]
14:29:53 <sharper> Agenda+ Next Catalogue Topic [sharper]
14:30:00 <sharper> Agenda+ Next Symposium Topic [sharper]
14:30:07 <sharper> Agenda+ Tips for AAR http://goo.gl/PTzghe [david]
14:30:14 <sharper> Agenda+ PENDING  - Draft Charter http://goo.gl/Dz0nct  [shadi]
14:30:22 <sharper> Agenda+ PENDING  - Metrics W3C Note Status  [shadi]
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14:30:28 <sharper> Agenda+ PENDING  - Mobile W3C Note Public Release this Week  [shadi]
14:30:35 <sharper> Agenda+ PENDING  - Easy to Read W3C Note Status  [klaus]
14:30:40 <sharper> Agenda+ PENDING  - Text Customisation W3C Note Status [shawn/david]
14:30:57 <sharper> Agenda+ PENDING  - Close the Loop on the symposium L&F [shadi]
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14:31:05 <sharper> zakim, save agenda
14:31:11 <Zakim> ok, sharper, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2013/10/30-rd-agenda.rdf
14:31:11 <sharper> zakim, take up item 1
14:31:13 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper]
14:31:14 <shadi> zakim, this is rd
14:31:14 <Zakim> ok, shadi; that matches WAI_RDWG()10:30AM
14:31:16 <Luz> Zakim, mute me
14:31:16 <Zakim> sorry, Luz, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:31:26 <sharper> regrets: Yehya, david, Mark
14:31:34 <Zakim> +Shadi
14:31:48 <Zakim> +??P20
14:31:59 <shadi> zakim, who is on the call?
14:31:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see Vivienne, Justin, ??P28, Peter_Thiessen (muted), [IPcaller], ??P31, Shadi, ??P20
14:32:01 <christos> zakim, ??P20 is me
14:32:02 <Zakim> +christos; got it
14:32:11 <Luz> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
14:32:11 <Zakim> +Luz; got it
14:32:36 <klaus> zakim, ??P28 is me
14:32:36 <Zakim> +klaus; got it
14:32:44 <Zakim> +??P21
14:32:50 <klaus> zakim, mute me
14:32:50 <Zakim> klaus should now be muted
14:32:55 <sharper> zakim, ??P21 is sharper
14:32:55 <Zakim> +sharper; got it
14:32:56 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, ack
14:32:56 <Zakim> I don't understand 'ack', Peter_Thiessen
14:33:34 <Justin> the half kilo one :)
14:33:35 <markel> 41#
14:33:42 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, un mute me
14:33:42 <Zakim> I don't understand 'un mute me', Peter_Thiessen
14:33:46 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, unmute me
14:33:46 <Zakim> Peter_Thiessen should no longer be muted
14:34:06 <silvia_mirri> sorry, but I have trouble with the connection, so I can join just the IRC chat
14:34:37 <Justin> how many doctorates in the house ?
14:35:04 <Justin> someone find a 15 year old
14:35:06 <markel> zakim, ??P31 is markel
14:35:06 <Zakim> +markel; got it
14:35:13 <shadi> q- klaus
14:35:17 <shadi> zakim, who is on the call?
14:35:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see Vivienne, Justin, klaus (muted), Peter_Thiessen, Luz, markel, Shadi, christos, sharper
14:35:32 <sharper> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/scribes
14:36:10 <Luz> Zakim, mute me
14:36:10 <Zakim> Luz should now be muted
14:36:13 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, scribe is me
14:36:13 <Zakim> sorry, Peter_Thiessen, I do not recognize a party named 'scribe'
14:36:22 <Peter_Thiessen> scribe: Peter Thiessen
14:36:34 <shadi> scribe: Peter
14:36:36 <Vivienne> zakim, mute me
14:36:36 <Zakim> Vivienne should now be muted
14:36:39 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, mute me
14:36:39 <Zakim> Peter_Thiessen should now be muted
14:36:39 <shadi> scribenick: Peter_Thiessen
14:36:50 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, close item 1
14:36:50 <Zakim> agendum 1, Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments), closed
14:36:53 <Zakim> I see 12 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:36:53 <Zakim> 2. User Note Draft [from yehya christos via sharper]
14:36:56 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, take up next
14:36:56 <Zakim> agendum 2. "User Note Draft" taken up [from yehya christos]
14:37:53 <Peter_Thiessen> christos: waiting on comments and minor changes for User Draft Note
14:38:05 <sharper>  http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2013/user-modeling/note/ED-UM4A
14:38:16 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: which one are we looking at?
14:38:29 <Peter_Thiessen> ..has anyone had a chance to look through this?
14:38:40 <Peter_Thiessen> ..if you've looked through it could you +1 in IRC
14:38:50 <Peter_Thiessen> ..else I'll put this in a survey for next week
14:38:51 <klaus> - 1
14:39:22 <Peter_Thiessen> ACTION ITEM: group read the Note
14:39:22 <trackbot> Error finding 'ITEM'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/users>.
14:39:59 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, take up next
14:39:59 <Zakim> agendum 3. "E-Learning Symposium Progress http://goo.gl/bbjL92" taken up [from justin silvia]
14:40:37 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: justin and silvia wher are we with the e-learning..
14:41:05 <Peter_Thiessen> justin: we're spreading the word and scientific committee - Gary Gay, David Sloan, and a few more form this group
14:41:06 <sharper> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/E-learning_Accessibility
14:41:26 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2013/e-learning/
14:41:26 <Peter_Thiessen> ..we're hoping the scientific is done and now it's a matter of people reading this and submitting papers
14:41:31 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2013/e-learning/cfp
14:41:32 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: when is the deadline?
14:41:43 <silvia_mirri> 15th november
14:41:46 <shadi> 15 November 2013: Deadline for paper submissions
14:41:46 <shadi> 2 December 2013: Author notifications
14:41:46 <shadi> 6 December 2013: Deadline for publication-ready papers
14:41:46 <shadi> 9 December 2013: Registration opens
14:41:46 <shadi> 16 December 2013: Online symposium event at 15:00-17:30 UTC
14:42:01 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: looks good
14:42:25 <Peter_Thiessen> ..I've had some enquires from people about submitting to this
14:42:38 <shadi> q+
14:42:53 <Peter_Thiessen> justing: silvia and I will be sending this out to anyone we can think of (universities, ..)
14:43:16 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: anyone else have anything to say? have we missed any lists?
14:43:19 <Vivienne> q+
14:43:33 <sharper> ack shadi
14:43:57 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: please send me the list of the SC as soon possible so we can put it on line
14:44:14 <Peter_Thiessen> ..simon can we go through the list and look for other places for outreach
14:44:44 <Zakim> +??P1
14:44:47 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: talking to myself on mute here
14:44:58 <annika> zakim, ??P1 is annika
14:44:58 <Zakim> +annika; got it
14:45:07 <Peter_Thiessen> ..ok shouldn't be a problem. I'll do that after the session.
14:45:11 <annika> zakim, mute me
14:45:11 <Zakim> annika should now be muted
14:45:16 <Peter_Thiessen> ..put that in an email (suggestions for lists)
14:45:38 <Peter_Thiessen> ..sent this to a number of lists
14:45:46 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Distribution_Lists
14:45:52 <Peter_Thiessen> (could you paste those in IRC)
14:46:53 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: simon could you add the list details to the wiki (link above)
14:47:06 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: yes but that could take longer
14:47:30 <Vivienne> zakim, ack me
14:47:30 <Zakim> unmuting Vivienne
14:47:31 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
14:47:32 <Luz> Yes, no problem.
14:47:33 <sharper> ack Viv
14:47:34 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: a couple of lists that belong to yeliz, luz and klaus - if you could take care of that as well
14:47:57 <Peter_Thiessen> vivien: i've been using the wiki.. (too much echo to hear rest)
14:48:17 <Justin> thanks all
14:48:18 <Vivienne> Just said that I've sent it to the 4 Perth universities
14:48:21 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, take up next
14:48:21 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Accreditation of Websites Status" taken up [from vivienne]
14:48:41 <shadi> regrets: Giorgio, Mark, Yehya, David, Silvia, Kerstin
14:48:50 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: this is from vivien and she sent around some updates.
14:49:05 <Vivienne> zakim, mute me
14:49:05 <Zakim> Vivienne should now be muted
14:49:26 <Vivienne> zakim, ack me
14:49:26 <Zakim> unmuting Vivienne
14:49:27 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
14:49:30 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd/2013Oct/0051.html
14:49:38 <Peter_Thiessen> ..vivien: could you tell us how this was created
14:50:18 <Peter_Thiessen> vivien: this document started off by transcribing the conversations and then went through and tidied up the wording.
14:50:36 <Peter_Thiessen> ..if I have miss-transcribed anything please let me know.
14:50:47 <Peter_Thiessen> ..I've taken out the questions we didn't have time to cover
14:51:12 <Peter_Thiessen> ..I'm looking for feedback on stuff should come in, length, conciseness
14:52:12 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: we haven't had time to look through this yet. I'm thinking how we should handle this now and in the future. We need to make sure the quality is there and this is going to published as part of a larger catalog of research
14:52:22 <shadi> q+
14:52:25 <Peter_Thiessen> ..so looking at the length - do we think this looks right?
14:52:29 <sharper> ack shad
14:53:06 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: I think we want a super brief catalog items that describe the topic and link to additional resources like the wiki or a symposium or a discussion log
14:53:19 <Peter_Thiessen> ..in this case the length, I think it looks good
14:53:40 <Peter_Thiessen> ..in terms of here is a discussion that took place in addition to the stale content like in the wiki
14:53:48 <Peter_Thiessen> ..we still need a super brief synopsys
14:53:57 <Peter_Thiessen> vivien: how long do you see that beeing?
14:54:06 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: klaus this may be a question for you as well
14:54:20 <Peter_Thiessen> ..I'm thinking of maybe a paragraph 5-10 sencences
14:54:38 <Peter_Thiessen> vivien: i could prepare something like that
14:54:51 <Peter_Thiessen> ..just a couple of sentences long is that what you're looking for?
14:55:19 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: initially we invisioned the catalog items would be more generic about the topic
14:55:35 <Peter_Thiessen> ..I don't know. Let's back up
14:56:42 <Peter_Thiessen> ..the idea of the catalog is to help researchers find and coordinate people in different fields that might be interested in a particular research item
14:57:11 <Peter_Thiessen> ..so annotate those items with more information that we have or might not yet for additional information
14:57:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:58:00 <Peter_Thiessen> ..a small synopsis that describes the research topic and a sub section talking about the status where we are right now with this catalog item. At this stage we only have the information on the wiki or this discussion..
14:58:10 <yeliz> yeliz has joined #rd
14:58:23 <Peter_Thiessen> ..so we have this brief synopsis that is neutral etc. and then something that describes what we know..
14:58:41 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: similar for me, I'd focus on the take home messages for the symposium
14:58:50 <yeliz> I was late, because of my class, sorry
14:59:01 <Peter_Thiessen> ..so we can do that quite short and then link out to a wider discussion
14:59:07 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is yeliz
14:59:07 <Zakim> +yeliz; got it
14:59:11 <Peter_Thiessen> ..i think the information on the word document should be included
14:59:14 <yeliz> zakim, mute me
14:59:14 <Zakim> yeliz should now be muted
14:59:31 <Peter_Thiessen> ..i'm worried about linking to the wiki because it's a work in progress
15:00:06 <Peter_Thiessen> ..does anyone else have any opinions?
15:00:18 <klaus> zakim, unmute me
15:00:18 <Zakim> klaus should no longer be muted
15:00:52 <Peter_Thiessen> klaus: i can only share what you said: a short summary that allows people to connect and a first status overview of the item as a starting point
15:01:24 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: i'm a bit sure about mixing.. i'd prefer to have a general description and then the findings from the group or something of that nature
15:01:33 <Peter_Thiessen> ..for many catalog items that might be empty
15:01:58 <Peter_Thiessen> klaus: I was not considering about we as a group but in general what the status of research in this is - very few sentences
15:02:04 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: do you have a template?
15:02:13 <Peter_Thiessen> klaus: we can prepare one and sent it around
15:02:29 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: that would be useful
15:02:36 <Peter_Thiessen> ..vivien would you find that useful?
15:03:06 <Peter_Thiessen> vivien: yes, i'm feeling a little fuzzy what it will look. so I was planning to start with the two things shadi was talking about
15:03:48 <Peter_Thiessen> ..i'm not sure how this will be used so i'm not really sure how it will be used in the future
15:04:38 <Peter_Thiessen> ..some guidance would be useful
15:05:07 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: it is evolving, this catalog idea. so their will probably be a little back and forth. so it would be good for you to work with klaus on that
15:05:50 <Peter_Thiessen> ..i want to be careful about any key messages or statements - it is important that we present this as the groups findings, the outcome of the discusssion
15:06:37 <Peter_Thiessen> ..i don't know what kind of a role those discussion will have as way to back certain things
15:06:46 <Peter_Thiessen> vivien: i think we're going to have to feel our way
15:06:55 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: yes i agree
15:07:05 <Peter_Thiessen> ..i think a template is a good starting point
15:07:25 <klaus> zakim, mute me
15:07:25 <Zakim> klaus should now be muted
15:07:29 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, take up next
15:07:29 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Next Catalogue Topic" taken up [from sharper]
15:07:44 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: we need to think about this one
15:08:06 <Peter_Thiessen> ..i've got feedback about the topic and people enjoyed it
15:08:27 <Peter_Thiessen> ..do we have any ideas about catalog topics we'd like to run?
15:08:46 <Peter_Thiessen> ..does anyone on the call have any suggestions?
15:09:16 <Vivienne> q+
15:09:21 <sharper> ack viv
15:09:40 <Peter_Thiessen> vivien: .. research .. (faded out)
15:09:54 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: david was talking about running one on research
15:10:03 <Vivienne> zakim, mute me
15:10:03 <Zakim> Vivienne should now be muted
15:10:12 <Peter_Thiessen> ..we need people to put one of these discussions together (volunteers)
15:10:35 <Peter_Thiessen> ..if we don't have any volunteers we'll just have to not have any research meetings
15:10:38 <Justin> +1
15:10:43 <Justin> q+
15:10:48 <sharper> ack just
15:11:10 <Peter_Thiessen> justin: in the new year, i have a couple of ideas
15:11:15 <shadi> q+
15:11:23 <shadi> ack me
15:11:23 <sharper> ack shad
15:11:42 <Vivienne> thanks Shadi!
15:11:44 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: yah and maybe encourage people not to be shy. i know vivien set the bar high
15:12:03 <Peter_Thiessen> ..i know many of you do (faded) research
15:12:24 <shadi> s/(faded)/really exciting
15:12:30 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: i'll keep running back to this topic on these calls
15:12:45 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, take up next
15:12:45 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Next Symposium Topic" taken up [from sharper]
15:13:11 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: this about the next symposium and we're lining up for after christmas
15:13:32 <Peter_Thiessen> ..any people have any thoughts about how to run or what or who is willing to run a symposium?
15:13:33 <Vivienne> q+
15:13:39 <Vivienne> zakim, ack me
15:13:39 <Zakim> unmuting Vivienne
15:13:39 <sharper> ack viv
15:13:40 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
15:14:00 <Peter_Thiessen> vivien: did we have some topics that were short listed?
15:14:25 <Vivienne> zakim, mute me
15:14:25 <Zakim> Vivienne should now be muted
15:14:39 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: so we have some from (missed name) but I haven't heard back so I'm assuming (faded)
15:14:48 <Vivienne> q+
15:14:55 <Peter_Thiessen> ..i'm assuming a number of people have topics that need to be finalised
15:15:06 <sharper> ack viv
15:15:08 <Vivienne> zakim, ack me
15:15:08 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
15:15:22 <Peter_Thiessen> vivien: one topic in the wiki is on user testing
15:15:42 <Peter_Thiessen> ..that one is close to my hear that i would *love* to help after christmas
15:16:09 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: yes definitely. i think that would be a good one to look at and if we could get one of those setup for after the new year
15:16:21 <Peter_Thiessen> ..we'd like to start planning now
15:16:55 <Peter_Thiessen> vivien: i'm hoping by march i'll still be re-writing my thesis but i hope for january
15:17:03 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: so i'm thinking more june time
15:17:11 <Peter_Thiessen> ..in my head we still need something for march
15:17:31 <Peter_Thiessen> ..does anyone have any thoughts or people to coop into the group for a symposium
15:17:45 <Peter_Thiessen> vivien: what about putting out to a survey
15:18:01 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: that is a good idea but my only worry is that it takes someone to commit to it
15:18:23 <Peter_Thiessen> ..but yah maybe a survey is a good idea. i just don't want to keep delaying it
15:18:41 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, take up next
15:18:41 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Tips for AAR http://goo.gl/PTzghe" taken up [from david]
15:18:56 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: david is not here so we'll move on
15:18:59 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, take up next
15:18:59 <Zakim> agendum 7 was just opened, Peter_Thiessen
15:19:00 <Vivienne> zakim, mute me
15:19:00 <Zakim> Vivienne should now be muted
15:19:13 <Peter_Thiessen> hmm
15:19:15 <shadi> zakim, close agendum 7
15:19:15 <Zakim> agendum 7, Tips for AAR http://goo.gl/PTzghe, closed
15:19:16 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:19:16 <Zakim> 8. PENDING  - Draft Charter http://goo.gl/Dz0nct  [from shadi via sharper]
15:19:27 <shadi> zakim, take up next
15:19:27 <Zakim> agendum 8. "PENDING  - Draft Charter http://goo.gl/Dz0nct " taken up [from shadi]
15:19:50 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: not for a while, it's under AC review since charters are being reviewed
15:20:05 <Peter_Thiessen> ..we can take it off the agenda unless we get comments..
15:20:28 <Peter_Thiessen> RESOLVE: we're going to remove this from the agenda
15:20:40 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, take up next
15:20:40 <Zakim> agendum 9. "PENDING  - Metrics W3C Note Status " taken up [from shadi]
15:20:58 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: still pending
15:21:03 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, take up next
15:21:03 <Zakim> agendum 9 was just opened, Peter_Thiessen
15:21:16 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, close item 9
15:21:16 <Zakim> agendum 9, PENDING  - Metrics W3C Note Status , closed
15:21:17 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:21:17 <Zakim> 10. PENDING  - Mobile W3C Note Public Release this Week  [from shadi via sharper]
15:21:20 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, take up next
15:21:20 <Zakim> agendum 10. "PENDING  - Mobile W3C Note Public Release this Week " taken up [from shadi]
15:21:26 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: still pending
15:21:33 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, close item 10
15:21:33 <Zakim> agendum 10, PENDING  - Mobile W3C Note Public Release this Week , closed
15:21:35 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:21:35 <Zakim> 11. PENDING  - Easy to Read W3C Note Status  [from klaus via sharper]
15:21:41 <klaus> zakim, unmute me
15:21:41 <Zakim> klaus should no longer be muted
15:22:11 <Peter_Thiessen> klaus: not a lot new. i think in my opinion all the feed back has been added and needs to added to the up to date version
15:22:21 <Peter_Thiessen> ..based on this i do think we can finalise
15:22:26 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: excellent news
15:22:39 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, close item 11
15:22:39 <Zakim> agendum 11, PENDING  - Easy to Read W3C Note Status , closed
15:22:40 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:22:40 <Zakim> 12. PENDING  - Text Customisation W3C Note Status [from shawn/david via sharper]
15:22:44 <klaus> zakim, mute me
15:22:44 <Zakim> klaus should now be muted
15:22:57 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, take up next
15:22:57 <Zakim> agendum 12. "PENDING  - Text Customisation W3C Note Status" taken up [from shawn/david]
15:23:10 <Peter_Thiessen> hmm the scribe is lost :)
15:23:43 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: still pending
15:23:49 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, close item 12
15:23:49 <Zakim> agendum 12, PENDING  - Text Customisation W3C Note Status, closed
15:23:50 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:23:50 <Zakim> 13. PENDING  - Close the Loop on the symposium L&F [from shadi via sharper]
15:24:05 <Peter_Thiessen> shadi: i need to back check the latest status on this
15:24:12 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, close item 13
15:24:12 <Zakim> agendum 13, PENDING  - Close the Loop on the symposium L&F, closed
15:24:13 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
15:24:24 <Peter_Thiessen> (thanks shadi)
15:24:35 <Peter_Thiessen> sharper: any other business to discuss now?
15:24:52 <Vivienne> good night all
15:24:52 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, unmute me
15:24:53 <Zakim> Peter_Thiessen should no longer be muted
15:24:54 <Justin> toodles
15:24:54 <Vivienne> ack me
15:24:59 <yeliz> byee
15:25:00 <annika> bye
15:25:01 <Zakim> -christos
15:25:03 <klaus> bye
15:25:04 <markel> bye
15:25:05 <silvia_mirri> bye
15:25:07 <Zakim> -yeliz
15:25:08 <Zakim> -Vivienne
15:25:08 <Zakim> -annika
15:25:09 <Peter_Thiessen> zakim, mute me
15:25:10 <Zakim> -markel
15:25:10 <Zakim> Peter_Thiessen should now be muted
15:25:11 <Luz> bye bye
15:25:12 <Zakim> -klaus
15:25:17 <markel> markel has left #rd
15:25:18 <Zakim> -Justin
15:25:28 <Zakim> -sharper
15:25:31 <Zakim> -Peter_Thiessen
15:25:32 <Zakim> -Shadi
15:35:01 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Luz, in WAI_RDWG()10:30AM
15:35:02 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()10:30AM has ended
15:35:02 <Zakim> Attendees were Vivienne, Justin, Peter_Thiessen, Shadi, christos, Luz, klaus, sharper, markel, annika, yeliz
16:01:58 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
16:01:58 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:01:58 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
16:02:06 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:02:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/30-rd-minutes.html trackbot
16:02:07 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:02:07 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/30-rd-actions.rdf :
16:02:07 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ITEM to group read the Note [1]
16:02:07 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/30-rd-irc#T14-39-22