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16:02:50 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
16:02:51 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:02:51 <trackbot> Date: 24 October 2013
16:03:00 <paulc_> zakim, what is the code?
16:03:00 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc_
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16:03:14 <Zakim> +Plh
16:03:22 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:03:26 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
16:03:30 <Zakim> +pladd
16:03:37 <paulc_> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
16:03:37 <Zakim> +paulc_; got it
16:03:43 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
16:03:49 <Eliot> Zakim, Microsoft has me
16:03:49 <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
16:03:52 <paulc_> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:03:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, Plh, [Microsoft], paulc_, pladd, [Microsoft.a]
16:03:52 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has Eliot
16:04:02 <krisk> zakim, [Microsoft] is krisk
16:04:04 <Zakim> +krisk; got it
16:04:04 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:04:16 <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft has me
16:04:17 <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
16:04:23 <paulc_> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013OctDec/0009.html
16:04:24 <Zakim> +??P2
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16:04:36 <paulc_> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:04:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, Plh, krisk, paulc_, pladd, [Microsoft.a], [Microsoft], ??P2
16:04:38 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
16:04:38 <Zakim> krisk has Eliot
16:04:43 <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
16:04:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, Plh, krisk, paulc_, pladd, [Microsoft.a], [Microsoft], ??P2
16:04:44 <plh> scribe: plh
16:04:46 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
16:04:46 <Zakim> krisk has Eliot
16:05:03 <plh> agenda+ action items
16:05:05 <janina> zakim, ??P2 is me
16:05:05 <Zakim> +janina; got it
16:05:10 <plh> angeda+ Items closing this week
16:05:11 <Zakim> +glenn
16:05:15 <plh> agenda+ Items closing this week
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16:05:23 <plh> agenda+ New calls
16:05:35 <plh> agenda+ Outstanding decisions
16:05:44 <plh> agenda+ TF reports
16:05:53 <plh> agenda+ Publications
16:05:54 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:05:54 <Zakim> agendum 1. "action items" taken up [from plh]
16:06:00 <plh> action-229?
16:06:00 <trackbot> action-229 -- Paul Cotton to Check the status of the authoring spec -- due 2013-10-31 -- OPEN
16:06:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/229
16:06:25 <plh> Paul: waiting for input from Robin.
16:06:32 <plh> plh has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013OctDec/0009.html
16:06:47 <plh> Paul: trying to wondering if the generation is in place or not
16:06:55 <plh> ... so an other week for the action
16:07:15 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:07:15 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Items closing this week" taken up [from plh]
16:07:22 <plh> Paul: 2
16:07:32 <plh> ... CFC for HTML 5.1/Canvas L2 hearbeat
16:07:38 <paulc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0048.html
16:07:50 <plh> ... second one is Microdata as Note
16:07:55 <plh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0050.html
16:07:59 <plh> ... both are closing today
16:08:11 <plh> ... no negative response so far I think
16:08:20 <plh> ... plan is to publish early next week
16:08:24 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:08:24 <Zakim> agendum 3. "New calls" taken up [from plh]
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16:08:30 <plh> Paul: one
16:08:33 <plh> ... due next week
16:08:44 <plh> ... second attempt to approve the revised HTML A11Y TF work statement and decision procedures
16:08:46 <paulc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0082.html
16:09:14 <plh> ... we tried to do this once. PF rejected the procedures and now PF approved the revised version
16:09:32 <plh> ... once this passes, the TF will havea new work statement and decision procedures
16:09:36 <plh> Topic: Decisions
16:09:38 <plh> Paul: none
16:09:41 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:09:41 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Outstanding decisions" taken up [from plh]
16:10:02 <plh> Paul: 2 CfC related to permissive CR exit criteria
16:10:13 <plh> ... work is still ongoing by the editors
16:10:29 <plh> agenda+ Other business
16:10:31 <paulc_> HTML5: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0008.html
16:10:53 <paulc_> Canvas CfC status: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0009.html
16:11:16 <plh> Paul: the a11y tf is likely to have a session related to status of a11y features
16:11:19 <plh> ... in Canvas spec
16:11:36 <plh> ... please join the a11y TF call next week
16:11:40 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:11:40 <Zakim> agendum 5. "TF reports" taken up [from plh]
16:11:49 <plh> Testing Task Force
16:12:19 <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-test-infra/2013OctDec/0045.html
16:12:20 <plh> Kris: met on Tuesday
16:12:38 <plh> ... James is replacing a big dependency
16:12:40 <plh> ... wptserve
16:12:45 <plh> ... smaller lightweight server
16:12:55 <plh> ... trying not to break things
16:13:02 <plh> ... thanks to Robin, Canvas tests are fixedf
16:13:07 <plh> ... they are all working now.
16:13:12 <krisk> http://w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/master/2dcontext/drawing-images-to-the-canvas/2d.drawImage.9arg.destsize.html now works plus others!
16:13:37 <plh> ... some tests will be created for some parts of the canvas spec. should show up pretty soon.
16:14:02 <plh> Paul: regarding the upcoming f2f: session on testing and status from CR point of view
16:14:25 <plh> ... will the TF have members in Shenzen to give us an update for html 5 and canvas spec?
16:14:36 <plh> Kris: will check.
16:15:06 <plh> Paul: on the canvas 2d one, are there any updated results?
16:15:22 <plh> Kris: yes, we do... produced 3 weeks ago.
16:15:30 <plh> ... will look for the link
16:15:42 <plh> ... will follow up by email
16:16:07 <plh> Paul: please, since we want to know the status of the a11y features
16:16:28 <plh> Accessibility Task Force
16:17:02 <plh> Janina: regarding longdesc tests, we'd like to have them there
16:17:18 <krisk> sure I can help or another person
16:17:19 <plh> ... if Kris or someone can help, that would be appreciated
16:17:42 <plh> plh: I gave some pointers to Mark yesterday
16:17:56 <plh> Janina: we can now show implementations for longdesc, we're done with testing.
16:18:13 <plh> ... and we have a call for consensus on the responses to the comments
16:18:15 <plh> ... closing on Monday
16:18:23 <plh> ... so we feel we're ready to move forward
16:18:44 <plh> ... we talked in the past about moving to CR
16:18:59 <plh> ... conversation on this isn't done yet
16:19:25 <plh> ... one point is to get more attention and get more implementers on board
16:19:55 <plh> Paul: the TF has to decide whether to get longdesc to REC as standalone or rolls it back into HTML5.0
16:20:16 <plh> ... Plan 2014 didn't cover the case that you would do both
16:20:24 <plh> ... so more discussion needed next week
16:20:44 <plh> Janina: yes, we're trying to balance it with the canvas discussion next week as well
16:20:59 <plh> ... no decision from the TF yet
16:21:38 <plh> ... I think we're about wrapped in the tweaks
16:21:47 <plh> ... but we're pretty much from the task force perspective
16:22:47 <plh> Janina: Steve wants to step down as co-facilitator for the a11y tf
16:22:51 <plh> ... not enough time
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16:23:02 <plh> ... will continue as participation in the TF and editor
16:23:14 <plh> ... but not a co-facilitator anymore
16:23:19 <plh> ... Charles and myself will stay on board
16:23:27 <plh> ... may be a need to add more in the future
16:23:35 <plh> ... but not in a hurry
16:23:52 <plh> ... Thank you to Steve for his effort
16:23:58 <paulc_> On behalf of the Team, WG Chairs and the A11Y TF we would like to thank Steve for his work over the last year as a co-facilitator for the A11Y TF.
16:24:00 <plh> ... and glad he'll stay around to work on the issues
16:24:13 <plh> +1
16:24:46 <plh> Media Task Force
16:25:01 <plh> Paul: the MSE LC period closed on October 17
16:25:04 <plh> ... small number of comments
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16:25:15 <plh> ... 8 outstanding bugs and 2 comments
16:25:27 <plh> ... half of those are straight-forward
16:25:36 <plh> ... the other half were allocated to folks
16:25:48 <plh> ... it's possible that we get the bug count down to 0 by TPAC
16:26:02 <plh> ... started to talk about CR exit criteria
16:26:12 <plh> ... so CR for MSE is likely to happen in December
16:26:23 <plh> ... on the EME front, hearbeat was published
16:26:29 <plh> ... 15 outstanding bugs
16:26:34 <plh> ... EME will meet next week
16:26:52 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:26:52 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Publications" taken up [from plh]
16:27:02 <paulc_> http://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/3333
16:27:15 <plh> Paul: 3 specs published: EME, Polyglot, Ruby
16:27:43 <plh> ... Ruby deals with lots of remaining bugs of HTML5
16:27:49 <plh> ... Ruby was published under CC-BY
16:28:18 <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
16:28:18 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Other business" taken up [from plh]
16:28:31 <plh> Paul: this is the time of the year to get confused about time
16:28:42 <paulc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0062.html
16:28:51 <plh> ... so for next week: same time for north america, one hour early for europe
16:29:04 <plh> Paul: f2f planning and wiki agenda
16:29:07 <paulc_> http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-11-Agenda
16:29:43 <plh> ... ... please add your agenda requests there
16:29:51 <plh> ... we'll run the meeting in unconference style
16:30:14 <plh> ... one request for joint meeting with web perf
16:31:03 <plh> ... will look into logistics with html a11y tf, indieUI conflicts
16:31:15 <plh> ... please look at the agenda and add your item there
16:32:59 <krisk> Here is the link for canvas 2d http://dev.w3.org/html5/misc/canvas-implementation.html
16:33:25 <krisk> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013JulSep/0028.html
16:33:57 <plh> Kris: I thought Rik was going to update it
16:34:14 <plh> ... Robin fixed the tests at least
16:34:19 <plh> ... I can go and tweak it
16:34:27 <paulc_> Actual tests: http://w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/master/2dcontext/
16:34:48 <plh> Paul: do we have latest results?
16:35:15 <plh> Kris: I'll figure this out
16:35:44 <plh> q?
16:35:58 <plh> Topic: Next week
16:36:04 <plh> Paul: I'll chair next week again
16:36:11 <plh> ... and Sam will do the week after
16:36:28 <plh> ... any volunteer to scribe next week?
16:36:33 <plh> Kris: I can scribe
16:36:49 <paulc_> No one except IJ is as good as plh.
16:36:52 <plh> :)
16:37:17 <plh> [adjourned]
16:37:20 <paulc_> rrsagent, generate the minutes
16:37:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/24-html-wg-minutes.html paulc_
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16:37:49 <Zakim> -janina
16:37:50 <Zakim> -Plh
16:37:51 <Zakim> -Sam
16:37:52 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
16:37:56 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
16:38:00 <Zakim> -pladd
16:38:01 <Zakim> -krisk
16:39:11 <Zakim> -paulc_
16:39:12 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
16:39:12 <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, Plh, pladd, paulc_, Eliot, krisk, jaymunro, janina, glenn
16:39:47 <plh> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:39:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/24-html-wg-minutes.html plh
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