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15:00:12 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 63342
15:00:12 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()11:00AM scheduled to start now
15:00:13 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
15:00:13 <trackbot> Date: 22 October 2013
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15:00:47 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
15:00:47 <Zakim> the conference code is 63342 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
15:01:21 <pladd> Zakim, who is on the phone?
15:01:21 <Zakim> HTML_WG()11:00AM has not yet started, pladd
15:01:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see acolwell, Zakim, RRSAgent, markw, pladd, Michael_Thornburgh, glenn, paulc, danny_, trackbot, wseltzer
15:01:33 <glenn> zakim, this is html
15:01:35 <Zakim> ok, glenn; that matches HTML_WG()11:00AM
15:01:42 <glenn> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:01:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.425.269.aaaa, MarkW, Michael_Thornburgh, glenn, +1.760.591.aabb, [Microsoft], Aaron_Colwell
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15:02:02 <markw> zaim, MarkW is me
15:02:11 <markw> zakim, MarkW is me
15:02:12 <Zakim> +markw; got it
15:02:22 <pladd> Zakim, aabb is me
15:02:22 <Zakim> +pladd; got it
15:04:01 <paulc> Paul needs a Scribe!
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15:05:22 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:05:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.425.269.aaaa, markw, Michael_Thornburgh, glenn, pladd, [Microsoft], Aaron_Colwell
15:05:25 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
15:05:30 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
15:05:30 <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
15:05:40 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
15:05:40 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
15:05:59 <paulc> zakim, aaaa is johnsim
15:05:59 <Zakim> +johnsim; got it
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15:06:28 <adrianba> ScribeNick: adrianba
15:06:31 <adrianba> Scribe: Adrian Bateman
15:06:36 <adrianba> Chair: Paul Cotton
15:06:40 <Zakim> +BobLund
15:06:44 <adrianba> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013Oct/0026.html
15:06:47 <adrianba> rrsagent, make minutes
15:06:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/22-html-media-minutes.html adrianba
15:06:54 <adrianba> rrsagent, make logs public
15:07:00 <adrianba> TOPIC: Roll call
15:07:02 <adrianba> paulc: done
15:07:12 <adrianba> TOPIC: Unresolved Last Call bugs
15:07:19 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23169
15:07:21 <adrianba> paulc: would like to leave this meeting with a plan for each bug
15:07:35 <adrianba> TOPIC: Bug 23169 - reconsider the jitter video quality metrics again
15:07:48 <adrianba> paulc: aaron you had a response in comment 7
15:07:51 <Zakim> +pal
15:07:54 <paulc> See https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23169#c7
15:08:00 <adrianba> acolwell: waiting for a response from jerry and mark
15:08:14 <adrianba> ... i replied specifically to jerry's comments
15:08:34 <adrianba> ... we haven't heard back from david since he filed the bug so we don't know if my proposal was acceptable to him
15:08:46 <adrianba> paulc: looks like this needs input from jerry, mark, and dsinger
15:09:26 <adrianba> ACTION paulc to ask jerry, mark, and dsinger to follow-up on bug 23169
15:09:26 <trackbot> Created ACTION-42 - Ask jerry, mark, and dsinger to follow-up on bug 23169 [on Paul Cotton - due 2013-10-29].
15:09:31 <markw> apologies - I recall posting another response to this one, but I don't see it in the bug. I will have to recreate it.
15:10:03 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23441
15:10:15 <adrianba> TOPIC: Bug 23441 - Establish an MSE bytestream format registry
15:10:27 <adrianba> acolwell: not yet done this
15:10:38 <adrianba> paulc: this needs to be assigned - can you pick this up
15:10:44 <adrianba> ... do you have a target date?
15:10:54 <adrianba> acolwell: want something by the next call - have a feeling there may be some iteration
15:11:21 <adrianba> ACTION acolwell to put proposal on the table for bug 23441 by the next meeting
15:11:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-43 - Put proposal on the table for bug 23441 by the next meeting [on Aaron Colwell - due 2013-10-29].
15:11:32 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23549
15:11:45 <adrianba> TOPIC: Bug 23549 - Clarify definition of decode timestamp
15:12:01 <adrianba> paulc: comment from mark with proposed text and no response
15:12:13 <adrianba> acolwell: i assigned it to me - didn't seem controversial - will be in next update
15:12:31 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23549
15:12:38 <adrianba> TOPIC: Bug 23552 - The phrase "this algorithm" in Section 3.5.1 (Segment Parser Loop) is unclear
15:12:53 <adrianba> 2/23549/23552/
15:13:09 <adrianba> s|2/23549/23552/||
15:13:15 <adrianba> s/23549/23552/
15:13:40 <Zakim> -pal
15:14:01 <adrianba> paulc: this one is aaron's list
15:14:24 <adrianba> TOPIC: Bug 23553 - Segment parser loop appears to discard Media Segment header
15:14:28 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23553#c1
15:14:45 <adrianba> paulc: aaron is proposing to figure out how to reword this
15:15:04 <adrianba> acolwell: need to figure out a way to accomplish making it clear as well as supporting incremental parsing
15:15:35 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23554
15:15:44 <adrianba> TOPIC: Bug 23554 - Coded frame processing step 14 is very hard to parse
15:15:51 <adrianba> paulc: also assigned to aaron
15:16:05 <adrianba> acolwell: didn't see anything controversial so planning to make the edits
15:16:13 <adrianba> paulc: anyone have comments - it is on aaron's list
15:16:29 <adrianba> TOPIC:
15:16:29 <adrianba> Bug 23557 - Advise support of all options for SPS/PPS in ISO BMFF
15:16:32 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23557#c1
15:16:47 <adrianba> acolwell: this one i thought might be controversial so i need a response
15:16:56 <adrianba> paulc: who are the experts on this?
15:17:09 <adrianba> acolwell: someone from the BBC originally advocated for adding this text
15:17:26 <adrianba> ... wasn't really thinking about letting avc4 in - don't think we should
15:17:35 <adrianba> ... need mark to address question about dropping avc4
15:17:41 <adrianba> ... also need feedback from bbc
15:17:52 <adrianba> ... never my intent to add support for complex features
15:18:00 <adrianba> paulc: johnsim, could you help track this down?
15:18:08 <markw> I will check into this too
15:18:20 <adrianba> ACTION johnsim to coordinate with markw and BBC on how to deal with bug 23557
15:18:20 <trackbot> Error finding 'johnsim'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/users>.
15:18:25 <adrianba> ACTION john to coordinate with markw and BBC on how to deal with bug 23557
15:18:25 <trackbot> Created ACTION-44 - Coordinate with markw and bbc on how to deal with bug 23557 [on John Simmons - due 2013-10-29].
15:18:40 <adrianba> acolwell: will try to see who from bbc asked for this
15:18:59 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23558#c1
15:19:01 <adrianba> TOPIC: Bug 23558 - Requirement to ignore additional top-level boxes in ISO BMFF limits forward compatibility.
15:19:24 <adrianba> paulc: aaron is pushing back on mark's statement about adding a MAY
15:19:31 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:19:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see johnsim, markw, Michael_Thornburgh, glenn, pladd, paulc, Aaron_Colwell, adrianba, BobLund
15:19:37 <adrianba> markw: i'll respond to this one today
15:19:47 <adrianba> ACTION markw to respond to bug 23558
15:19:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-45 - Respond to bug 23558 [on Mark Watson - due 2013-10-29].
15:19:48 <adrianba> q+
15:19:58 <acolwell> q+
15:20:04 <paulc> ack adrianba
15:20:06 <acolwell> q-
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15:20:40 <adrianba> TOPIC: Comments on Media Source Extensions from HTML Accessibility Task Force
15:20:43 <acolwell> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013Oct/0022.html
15:21:30 <adrianba> paulc: when they raised this on the a11y call i asked if they applied to MSE or to <video>
15:21:39 <adrianba> ... i didn't get a good answer but they wanted to get them in on time
15:21:56 <adrianba> acolwell: i think these apply to the media elements in HTML
15:22:05 <adrianba> paulc: does someone want to raise bugs
15:22:09 <paulc> ack adr
15:22:09 <adrianba> acolwell: i can do that
15:22:24 <adrianba> ACTION acolwell to file bugs for a11y tf issues
15:22:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-46 - File bugs for a11y tf issues [on Aaron Colwell - due 2013-10-29].
15:23:09 <adrianba> TOPIC: Exiting from Last Call
15:23:19 <adrianba> paulc: i had some comments about what happens next
15:23:22 <paulc> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#cfi
15:23:30 <adrianba> ... i included notes on this in the agenda
15:23:38 <adrianba> ... including a link to the process step
15:23:46 <adrianba> ... and a check-list for what we need to do
15:23:59 <Zakim> -johnsim
15:24:04 <adrianba> ... see "LC exit and CR entrance check list"
15:24:20 <paulc> - LC report – see http://tinyurl.com/mkwygp4
15:24:56 <adrianba> paulc: there are no formal objections, will need to talk about start and end of CR stage
15:25:20 <adrianba> ... identifying any features at risk - good if you can inform the Director about existing implementations
15:25:34 <adrianba> ... need a CfC at task force and WG level
15:26:09 <adrianba> ... if we can get a more than average amount of work in the next 2 weeks we can have the discussion about these at TPAC
15:26:09 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:26:31 <adrianba> ... hope to go into CR in December
15:26:48 <adrianba> paulc: aaron, does this answer your questions?
15:27:07 <adrianba> acolwell: yes - i assume there is no period for another flurry of bugs
15:27:14 <adrianba> paulc: correct
15:27:33 <adrianba> johnsim: btw, it is Chris Poole at the BBC
15:27:49 <adrianba> TOPIC: Any other business
15:27:57 <adrianba> paulc: nothing heard
15:28:02 <adrianba> rrsagent, make minutes
15:28:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/22-html-media-minutes.html adrianba
15:28:03 <paulc> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:28:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/22-html-media-minutes.html paulc
15:28:04 <Zakim> -BobLund
15:28:15 <Zakim> -pladd
15:28:15 <Zakim> -glenn
15:28:15 <Zakim> -Aaron_Colwell
15:28:15 <Zakim> -adrianba
15:28:16 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
15:28:18 <Zakim> -Michael_Thornburgh
15:28:21 <Zakim> -markw
15:28:39 <adrianba> zakim, bye
15:28:39 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +1.425.269.aaaa, Michael_Thornburgh, glenn, +1.760.591.aabb, Aaron_Colwell, markw, pladd, adrianba, paulc, johnsim, BobLund, pal,
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15:28:45 <adrianba> s/zaim, MarkW is me//
15:29:27 <adrianba> s/ACTION acolwell/ACTION: acolwell/g
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15:30:41 <adrianba> s/ACTION johnsim to coordinate with markw and BBC on how to deal with bug 23557//
15:30:55 <adrianba> s/ACTION john to/ACTION: john to/
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