IRC log of mobile-a11y on 2013-10-15

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Team_(mobile-a11y)14:00Z has now started

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+??P1

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+Jeanne

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-??P1

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+??P1

13:59:32 [jeanne]

zakim, P1 is Joshue

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sorry, jeanne, I do not recognize a party named 'P1'

14:00:07 [jeanne]

zakim, ??P1 is Joshue

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+Joshue; got it

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+??P6

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+Kelly_Ford

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zakim, [IPcaller] is Joshue

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sorry, Joshue, I do not recognize a party named '[IPcaller]'

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+Jim_Allan

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/15-mobile-a11y-minutes.html allanj

14:11:29 [Joshue108]

https://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=66524&public=1

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+Kim_Patch

14:13:22 [MichaelC]

q+ to suggest chairs send message to WCAG and UAAG mailing lists introducing facilitators

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14:14:52 [MichaelC]

q+ to suggest facilitators send intro message to the TF list to collect meeting time availabilities and propose initial agenda

14:15:01 [MichaelC]

q+ to say and suggest people introduce themselves

14:15:21 [allanj]

scribe: allanj

14:16:21 [jeanne]

https://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=66524&public=1

14:16:22 [MichaelC]

q+ to say suggest recruits

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ack me

14:17:35 [Zakim]

MichaelC, you wanted to suggest chairs send message to WCAG and UAAG mailing lists introducing facilitators and to suggest facilitators send intro message to the TF list to collect

14:17:38 [Zakim]

... meeting time availabilities and propose initial agenda and to say and suggest people introduce themselves and to say suggest recruits

14:19:27 [allanj]

mc: WG chair(s) should announce to the the WGs introducing the TF and the facilitators

14:20:23 [allanj]

... facilitators send message - introducing self, logistics (meeting times - time zones)

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... then propose agenda/tasks etc.

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jo: potential times?

14:22:05 [allanj]

mc: up to the facilitators, to establish times.

14:22:37 [jeanne]

q+ to ask about tools

14:22:40 [Joshue108]

http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/work-statement

14:22:50 [allanj]

mc: the WG need to establish some requirement of # of meetings by some date

14:22:59 [Joshue108]

http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/

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kw: what is the list addy

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public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org

14:25:23 [jeanne]

KP: needs a wiki

14:25:35 [allanj]

kp: wants a wiki

14:25:41 [Joshue108]

zakim, queue?

14:25:41 [Zakim]

I see jeanne on the speaker queue

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js: need tracker instance

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list discussion

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tf list and public discussion list

14:27:38 [Joshue108]

ack jeanne

14:27:38 [Zakim]

jeanne, you wanted to ask about tools

14:28:03 [allanj]

wbs should be established (survey system)

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jeanne to provide orientation to WBS

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wikis available for tool use

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needs: tracker, wbs, wiki

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mc: do you need access to bugzilla?

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js: use for tracking comments

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kp: not needed now

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kw: +1

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jo: reporting mechanism - can talk at another time about this

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mc: wiki setup to be able to add comments

14:31:46 [Joshue108]

http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Task_Force_Report_Template

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kw: time frame for reports

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jo: every 6 weeks and meet with with WG chairs (UAWG and WCAG)

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jo: couple of weeks to get logistics in order

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kw: want to recruit more folks, hear that others are interested

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... then set a time.

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jo: questions?

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kp: need to get acquainted with the tools, get participants

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jo: discusses happy medium for finding a time.

14:36:30 [MichaelC]

q+ to ask for zakim code

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ack coop

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ack coop

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ack Mi

14:38:28 [Zakim]

MichaelC, you wanted to ask for zakim code

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motf

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ack me

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Passcode will be 6283 matf

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kw: tools, agenda, intro email

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kf: review work statement, see if questions

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kp: what are you expecting?

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jo: quite a lot. primarily mobile techniques using open web stack (html5, css, etc.)

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... design guidance (usability)

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... list of existing resources (BBC), others

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kw: IBM mobile guidelines

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js: has a long list for mobile a11y

14:45:45 [jeanne]

Funka Nu best practices

14:46:54 [allanj]

kp: 6 months from now, what is expectation...

14:47:05 [MichaelC]

q+ to suggest project plan

14:47:48 [MichaelC]

q+ to mention gap analysis and available resources (include Alan´s, BBC, etc.)

14:48:00 [allanj]

jo: basis of lots of techniques (with a good crew), design guidance best practices

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... surprise me, it is hard work, don't want to set anything in stone

14:48:44 [MichaelC]

q+ to note TF size and make use of members

14:49:22 [MichaelC]

q+ to talk about work methodology

14:49:25 [allanj]

kw: need to ID techniques, send to WG for approval?

14:50:34 [Joshue108]

ack mich

14:50:34 [Zakim]

MichaelC, you wanted to suggest project plan and to mention gap analysis and available resources (include Alan´s, BBC, etc.) and to note TF size and make use of members and to

14:50:37 [Zakim]

... talk about work methodology

14:51:17 [allanj]

mc: can set rules for TF functioning, should be agenda item for WG?TF confab

14:51:56 [allanj]

... have 2 WG chair and team contacts...lots to work out

14:52:35 [allanj]

mc: in 6 months? project plan with deliverables. just convening

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... start with gap analysis and resources (Alan's and BBC, etc.

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... ID the problem, what are the holes

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... how do we plug them, who do we work with

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... spend time wrapping head about all of the above

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... then make a plan

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+q

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mc: use the TF participants.

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ack me

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-Joshue

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jo: contact WG chairs if you need anything

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js: mobile web vs app

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mc: if you find delineation...document it.

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mc: define your scope

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kp: don't worry about line...how are they different

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kf: design wise, may have same end result for user, but construction (native vs html) may be different, and WAI concern may be different

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js: sent seeking participation email for reference.

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-Kathy_Wahlbin

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rrsagent, minutes

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I'm logging. I don't understand 'minutes', allanj. Try /msg RRSAgent help

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-Michael_Cooper

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-Kim_Patch

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/15-mobile-a11y-minutes.html allanj

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rrsagent, set logs public

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-Kelly_Ford

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-Jim_Allan

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Team_(mobile-a11y)14:00Z has ended

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Attendees were Jeanne, Joshue, Kathy_Wahlbin, Michael_Cooper, Kelly_Ford, Jim_Allan, Kim_Patch

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