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13:59:32 <jeanne> zakim, P1 is Joshue
13:59:33 <Zakim> sorry, jeanne, I do not recognize a party named 'P1'
14:00:07 <jeanne> zakim, ??P1 is Joshue
14:00:07 <Zakim> +Joshue; got it
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14:07:36 <Joshue> zakim, [IPcaller] is Joshue
14:07:36 <Zakim> sorry, Joshue, I do not recognize a party named '[IPcaller]'
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14:10:18 <allanj> rrsagent, make minutes
14:10:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/15-mobile-a11y-minutes.html allanj
14:11:29 <Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=66524&public=1
14:11:31 <Zakim> +Kim_Patch
14:13:22 <MichaelC> q+ to suggest chairs send message to WCAG and UAAG mailing lists introducing facilitators
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14:14:52 <MichaelC> q+ to suggest facilitators send intro message to the TF list to collect meeting time availabilities and propose initial agenda
14:15:01 <MichaelC> q+ to say and suggest people introduce themselves
14:15:21 <allanj> scribe: allanj
14:16:21 <jeanne> https://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=66524&public=1
14:16:22 <MichaelC> q+ to say suggest recruits
14:17:35 <MichaelC> ack me
14:17:35 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to suggest chairs send message to WCAG and UAAG mailing lists introducing facilitators and to suggest facilitators send intro message to the TF list to collect
14:17:38 <Zakim> ... meeting time availabilities and propose initial agenda and to say and suggest people introduce themselves and to say suggest recruits
14:19:27 <allanj> mc: WG chair(s) should announce to the the WGs introducing the TF and the facilitators
14:20:23 <allanj> ... facilitators send message - introducing self, logistics (meeting times - time zones)
14:21:11 <allanj> ... then propose agenda/tasks etc.
14:21:41 <allanj> jo: potential times?
14:22:05 <allanj> mc: up to the facilitators, to establish times.
14:22:37 <jeanne> q+ to ask about tools
14:22:40 <Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/work-statement
14:22:50 <allanj> mc: the WG need to establish some requirement of # of meetings by some date
14:22:59 <Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/
14:23:04 <allanj> kw: what is the list addy
14:23:06 <MichaelC> public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org
14:25:23 <jeanne> KP: needs a wiki
14:25:35 <allanj> kp: wants a wiki
14:25:41 <Joshue108> zakim, queue?
14:25:41 <Zakim> I see jeanne on the speaker queue
14:25:54 <allanj> js: need tracker instance
14:27:08 <allanj> list discussion
14:27:30 <allanj> tf list and public discussion list
14:27:38 <Joshue108> ack jeanne
14:27:38 <Zakim> jeanne, you wanted to ask about tools
14:28:03 <allanj> wbs should be established (survey system)
14:28:31 <allanj> jeanne to provide orientation to WBS
14:29:14 <allanj> wikis available for tool use
14:29:35 <allanj> needs: tracker, wbs, wiki
14:29:52 <allanj> mc: do you need access to bugzilla?
14:30:05 <allanj> js: use for tracking comments
14:30:13 <allanj> kp: not needed now
14:30:19 <allanj> kw: +1
14:30:58 <allanj> jo: reporting mechanism - can talk at another time about this
14:31:39 <allanj> mc: wiki setup to be able to add comments
14:31:46 <Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Task_Force_Report_Template
14:31:52 <allanj> kw: time frame for reports
14:32:42 <allanj> jo: every 6 weeks and meet with with WG chairs (UAWG and WCAG)
14:33:22 <allanj> jo: couple of weeks to get logistics in order
14:33:49 <allanj> kw: want to recruit more folks, hear that others are interested
14:34:01 <allanj> ... then set a time.
14:34:37 <allanj> jo: questions?
14:35:28 <allanj> kp: need to get acquainted with the tools, get participants
14:35:56 <allanj> jo: discusses happy medium for finding a time.
14:36:30 <MichaelC> q+ to ask for zakim code
14:38:22 <Joshue108> ack coop
14:38:25 <Joshue108> ack coop
14:38:28 <Joshue108> ack Mi
14:38:28 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to ask for zakim code
14:38:52 <allanj> motf
14:39:30 <MichaelC> ack me
14:39:50 <MichaelC> Passcode will be 6283 matf
14:41:54 <allanj> kw: tools, agenda, intro email
14:42:38 <allanj> kf: review work statement, see if questions
14:42:53 <allanj> kp: what are you expecting?
14:43:51 <allanj> jo: quite a lot. primarily mobile techniques using open web stack (html5, css, etc.)
14:44:16 <allanj> ... design guidance (usability)
14:44:38 <allanj> ... list of existing resources (BBC), others
14:45:00 <allanj> kw: IBM mobile guidelines
14:45:26 <allanj> js: has a long list for mobile a11y
14:45:45 <jeanne> Funka Nu best practices
14:46:54 <allanj> kp: 6 months from now, what is expectation...
14:47:05 <MichaelC> q+ to suggest project plan
14:47:48 <MichaelC> q+ to mention gap analysis and available resources (include Alan´s, BBC, etc.)
14:48:00 <allanj> jo: basis of lots of techniques (with a good crew), design guidance best practices
14:48:38 <allanj> ... surprise me, it is hard work, don't want to set anything in stone
14:48:44 <MichaelC> q+ to note TF size and make use of members
14:49:22 <MichaelC> q+ to talk about work methodology
14:49:25 <allanj> kw: need to ID techniques, send to WG for approval?
14:50:34 <Joshue108> ack mich
14:50:34 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to suggest project plan and to mention gap analysis and available resources (include Alan´s, BBC, etc.) and to note TF size and make use of members and to
14:50:37 <Zakim> ... talk about work methodology
14:51:17 <allanj> mc: can set rules for TF functioning, should be agenda item for WG?TF confab
14:51:56 <allanj> ... have 2 WG chair and team contacts...lots to work out
14:52:35 <allanj> mc: in 6 months?  project plan with deliverables. just convening
14:53:07 <allanj> ... start with gap analysis and resources (Alan's and BBC, etc.
14:53:23 <allanj> ... ID the problem, what are the holes
14:53:40 <allanj> ... how do we plug them, who do we work with
14:54:04 <allanj> ... spend time wrapping head about all of the above
14:54:11 <allanj> ... then make a plan
14:54:30 <Joshue108> +q
14:54:32 <allanj> mc: use the TF participants.
14:54:36 <Joshue108> ack me
14:56:16 <Zakim> -Joshue
14:56:17 <allanj> jo: contact WG chairs if you need anything
14:57:43 <allanj> js: mobile web vs app
14:58:18 <allanj> mc: if you find delineation...document it.
14:58:27 <allanj> mc: define your scope
14:58:55 <allanj> kp: don't worry about line...how are they different
15:00:28 <allanj> kf: design wise, may have same end result for user, but construction (native vs html) may be different, and WAI concern may be different
15:00:59 <allanj> js: sent seeking participation email for reference.
15:01:15 <Zakim> -Kathy_Wahlbin
15:01:17 <allanj> rrsagent, minutes
15:01:17 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'minutes', allanj.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:01:23 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
15:01:27 <Zakim> -Kim_Patch
15:01:32 <allanj> rrsagent, make minutes
15:01:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/15-mobile-a11y-minutes.html allanj
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