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12:29:31 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 3794
12:29:31 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
12:29:32 <trackbot> Meeting: Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group Teleconference
12:29:33 <trackbot> Date: 09 October 2013
12:30:41 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
12:30:41 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
12:30:42 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has now started
12:30:43 <Zakim> +Shadi
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12:31:59 <Zakim> +??P20
12:42:16 <carlos> http://i2web.eu/developer/easi.html
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12:43:57 <Zakim> +??P21
12:44:06 <samuelm> Zakim, ??P21 is me
12:44:06 <Zakim> +samuelm; got it
12:44:38 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/WD-AERT/ED-AERT
12:47:54 <shadi> SAZ: document maturing
12:48:00 <shadi> ...the framework seems stable
12:48:22 <shadi> ...should start thinking about a public WD to get more feedback
12:48:30 <shadi> ...but lots of scrubbing and editing needed
12:48:43 <shadi> SM: also agree that it is looking much more mature
12:48:59 <shadi> ...congratulate Carlos on these improvements
12:49:13 <shadi> ...have several minor comments
12:49:26 <shadi> ...but otherwise good to get broader feedback
12:50:08 <shadi> SAZ: yes, now is the time to start nit-picking
12:50:36 <shadi> ...and improve these aspects
12:52:14 <shadi> SM: HTTP headers, for example for language versions of the pages
12:52:30 <shadi> ...but also other types of content negotiation
12:52:56 <samuelm> E-Tag
12:53:56 <shadi> ...also need to consider these to report the context of evaluation
12:54:31 <shadi> CV: like the idea of content negotiation
12:54:46 <samuelm> SM: WG created HTTP in RDF because of that
12:55:43 <shadi> q+ to talk about "web applications" vs "user actions"
12:57:27 <samuelm> http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.13.3972&rep=rep1&type=pdf
12:58:43 <shadi> SM: text for localization should better address the aspects of internationalization
12:59:38 <shadi> CV: agree, good input
12:59:41 <shadi> SAZ: me too
13:02:09 <shadi> SM: we don't talk about customizing the view on the results
13:02:21 <shadi> ...as opposed to filtering or sorting the results
13:09:47 <shadi> SAZ: think one of the issues is that the features are sometimes not very clear
13:10:09 <shadi> ...need to have clear "checks" to tell if a tool has a feature or not
13:10:42 <shadi> SM: to me some sorts of customization are not filtering
13:10:56 <shadi> ...for example functions that aid navigation and manipulation
13:12:54 <shadi> SAZ: agree that we are talking about two types of customization
13:16:00 <shadi> ...one retrieves the data and the other works with that data
13:16:20 <shadi> CV: agree, will try to make clearer
13:21:14 <shadi> [[agreement that section 2.3.2 should include description for both types of customizations discussed above]]
13:23:50 <shadi> CV: one sentence "check" will repeat the title
13:23:58 <shadi> ...don't like it a lot
13:24:12 <shadi> ...maybe better to improve the section text instead
13:25:13 <shadi> SM: adding a one-sentence "check" could be dangerous
13:25:24 <shadi> ...will be a tough task
13:25:44 <shadi> ...maybe better to try to improve the text
13:29:41 <Zakim> -??P20
13:29:45 <Zakim> -Shadi
13:29:47 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has ended
13:29:47 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, samuelm
13:30:13 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
13:30:13 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
13:30:13 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
13:30:21 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:30:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/09-er-minutes.html trackbot
13:30:22 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
13:30:22 <RRSAgent> I see no action items