IRC log of i18n on 2013-10-03

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-irc

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trackbot, prepare teleconference

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RRSAgent, make logs world

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Zakim, this will be 4186

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ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 59 minutes

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Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 03 October 2013

14:01:42 [matial]

I am trying to join the voice conference, but get a message saying :The conference is restricted at this time". ???

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zakim, dial richard

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ok, r12a; the call is being made

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apparently adminreq didn't process the time change request?

14:02:51 [r12a]

we can set up an adhoc telecon, hold on...

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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Oct/0000.html

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zakim, drop richard

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sorry, r12a, I don't know what conference this is

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zakim, room for 6?

14:03:18 [Zakim]

ok, r12a; conference Team_(i18n)14:03Z scheduled with code 26633 (CONF3) for 60 minutes until 1503Z; however, please note that capacity is now overbooked

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Team_(i18n)14:03Z has now started

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zakim, dial richard

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ok, r12a; the call is being made

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+aphillip

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zakim, this is conf3

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r12a, this was already Team_(i18n)14:03Z

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agenda+ location of editorical meeting

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ok, r12a; that matches Team_(i18n)14:03Z

14:04:06 [JcK]

I'm getting "conference is restricted at this time" from Zakim

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zakim, dial richard

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ok, r12a; the call is being made

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+Richard

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agenda+ RADAR

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agenda+ Whither Encodings

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john, mati, please use the code 26633

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agenda+ "Permissive Exit" email thread

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john, mati, please use the code 26633

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you should be able to join now

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+ +1.617.245.aaaa

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+??P17

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agenda+ Authoring HTML: Handling RTL Scripts

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agenda+ QA Translate Flag (any unfinished business??)

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agenda+ 'Tr' defaulting behavior in Vertical Text

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zakim, who's here?

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On the phone I see aphillip, Richard, +1.617.245.aaaa, ??P17

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On IRC I see JcK, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, matial, r12a, trackbot

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zakim, ??P17 is mati

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+mati; got it

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zakim, +1.617.245.aaaa is JcK

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+JcK; got it

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Topic: Agenda

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agenda?

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Topic: Action Items

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http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

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http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/FloatingTime

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close action-257

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Closed action-257.

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close action-260

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Closed action-260.

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close action-265

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Closed action-265.

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richard: scheduled, waiting on PLH to approve publication request

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Topic: Info Share

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agenda?

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zakim, take up agendum 2

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agendum 2. "RADAR" taken up [from aphillip]

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http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar

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http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar

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JcK: URNbis will issue a new LC soon, but currently waiting for a "miracle" solution to impasse

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agenda?

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zakim, take up agendum 1

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agendum 1. "location of editorical meeting" taken up [from aphillip]

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addison: martin asked us to discuss

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... we have generally camped out in people's hotel rooms

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action: addison: ask on member list if anyone is willing to formally host the F2F

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Created ACTION-266 - Ask on member list if anyone is willing to formally host the f2f [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-10-10].

14:21:47 [aphillip]

agenda?

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zakim, take up agendum 3

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agendum 3. "Whither Encodings" taken up [from aphillip]

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2013OctDec/0000.html

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q+

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ack r12a

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agenda?

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(discussion of situation following Anne's email)

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now waiting to hear from Anne about his reasoning and response to Martin's email

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zakim, take up agendum 5

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agendum 5. "Authoring HTML: Handling RTL Scripts" taken up [from aphillip]

14:40:14 [aphillip]

richard: mati gave me some useful comments which I'll incorporate

14:40:23 [r12a]

http://www.w3.org/International/docs/bp-html-bidi/Overview.html

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-minutes.html aphillip

14:41:12 [aphillip]

richard: may not need full review

14:42:05 [aphillip]

action: addison: announce intention to publish editor's copy of bp-html-bidi on winter list following richard's update

14:42:05 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-267 - Announce intention to publish editor's copy of bp-html-bidi on winter list following richard's update [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-10-10].

14:42:16 [aphillip]

agenda?

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zakim, take up agendum 6

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agendum 6. "QA Translate Flag (any unfinished business??)" taken up [from aphillip]

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action: richard: publish QA Translate Flag after incorporating comments

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Created ACTION-268 - Publish qa translate flag after incorporating comments [on Richard Ishida - due 2013-10-10].

14:44:39 [r12a]

ACTION: Richard to add mati and najib's comment to bidi techniques doc

14:44:39 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-269 - Add mati and najib's comment to bidi techniques doc [on Richard Ishida - due 2013-10-10].

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agenda?

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zakim, take up agendum 4

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agendum 4. ""Permissive Exit" email thread" taken up [from aphillip]

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2013OctDec/0002.html

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richard: Paul Cotton sent an email pointing out things needing attention to get html through CR

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... the WAI people pointed to some issues

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... and the first was to do with 'lang' attribute

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... and pointed to a bug in which Amir Ahroni

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... said lang should influence dir

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... and Aharon created a separate bug about isolation

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richard: I think WAI is pointed to wrong bug---they want the isolation bug

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... and the 'lang' bug needs more discussion

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... and would be applied after CR

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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18490

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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22326

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richard: bug 18490 would leave making @lang bidi isolating

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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23260

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richard: wiating for Aharon to come back on the above bug

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s/wiating/waiting/

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richard: WAI thinks that isolation on @dir is important

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... but that seems to be the wrong bug for tracking it

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action: addison: ping Aharon to respond to 23260 (as well as 18490/22326)

14:55:26 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-270 - Ping aharon to respond to 23260 (as well as 18490/22326) [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-10-10].

14:56:37 [aphillip]

addison: we discussed previously and should have thread about it

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richard: best for Aharon to say that previous discussion led to a different consensus, that we studied the compatibility issue

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... think we know better now

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addison: I think we previously convinced Ian that there might be a compatibility issue, but we've since studied it

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-minutes.html aphillip

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agenda?

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zakim, take up agendum 7

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agendum 7. "'Tr' defaulting behavior in Vertical Text" taken up [from aphillip]

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we intend to take this up next week as our hour is up

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zakim, code?

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the conference code is 26633 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), aphillip

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Topic: Info Share

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richard: Unicode 6.3 released

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... includes bidi stuff

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Topic: AOB?

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-aphillip

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-mati

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JcK has left #i18n

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zakim, drop richard

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Richard is being disconnected

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-Richard

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-minutes.html r12a

15:05:34 [aphillip]

zakim, who is here?

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On the phone I see JcK

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On IRC I see koji, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, matial, r12a, trackbot

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zakim, drop JcK

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JcK is being disconnected

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Team_(i18n)14:03Z has ended

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Attendees were aphillip, Richard, mati, JcK

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zakim, bye

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-minutes.html aphillip

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ScribeNick: aphillip

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Scribe: Addison Phillips

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Chair: Addison Phillips

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-minutes.html aphillip

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rrsagent, bye

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I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: addison: ask on member list if anyone is willing to formally host the F2F [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-irc#T14-21-39

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ACTION: addison: announce intention to publish editor's copy of bp-html-bidi on winter list following richard's update [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-irc#T14-42-05

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ACTION: richard: publish QA Translate Flag after incorporating comments [3]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-irc#T14-44-11

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ACTION: Richard to add mati and najib's comment to bidi techniques doc [4]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-irc#T14-44-39

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ACTION: addison: ping Aharon to respond to 23260 (as well as 18490/22326) [5]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-irc#T14-55-26