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20:05:10 <jamesn> zakim, this is 9224
20:05:10 <Zakim> ok, jamesn; that matches WAI_WCAG()4:00PM
20:05:19 <jamesn> rrsagent, make log world
20:05:49 <jamesn> Meeting: HTML5 & ARIA techniques TF
20:06:21 <Loretta> scribe:Loretta
20:06:25 <jamesn> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130919aria/
20:06:39 <jamesn> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:06:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.704.877.aaaa, +1.650.506.aabb, Marc_Johlic, [Google]
20:06:54 <jamesn> zakim, aabb is James_Nurthen
20:06:54 <Zakim> +James_Nurthen; got it
20:07:04 <jamesn> zakim, Google is Loretta
20:07:04 <Zakim> +Loretta; got it
20:07:42 <jamesn> zakim, aaaa is Alan_Smith
20:07:42 <Zakim> +Alan_Smith; got it
20:08:20 <jamesn> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130919aria/results
20:10:32 <Loretta> Alan: role=alert needed, or the screen reader will not announce Alert
20:10:46 <Loretta> James: Yes, but the content will still be read.
20:12:06 <Loretta> James to ping Paul to update the title on the test page, which still mentions form validation.
20:12:44 <Loretta> This technique is ready for WCAG review.
20:14:00 <Zakim> + +1.254.247.aacc
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20:14:18 <jamesn> zakim, aacc is Paul_Adam
20:14:18 <Zakim> +Paul_Adam; got it
20:15:03 <Loretta> Paul has updated the title.
20:17:04 <Loretta> Topic: Landmarks
20:17:13 <Loretta> Loretta to ping David about handling the rest of the WG comments.
20:18:47 <jamesn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_to_name_controls
20:23:48 <Loretta> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#text-equiv
20:31:22 <Loretta> Topic: F43
20:31:32 <Loretta> Send to WG for review.
20:31:52 <Loretta> Topic: Using aira-labelledby to name controls
20:39:38 <Loretta> James to review this technique (or draft new technique) for using aria-label or aria-labelledby expose the name of a user interface component
20:47:05 <jamesn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/ARIA1:_Using_the_aria-describedby_property_to_provide_a_descriptive_label_for_input_controls
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20:52:27 <jamesn>  <p><span class="left" id="fontDesc" >Select the font faces and sizes to be used on this page</span>
20:52:27 <jamesn>  <span class="right"><button id="fontB" onclick="doAction('Fonts');" aria-describedby="fontDesc">
20:52:27 <jamesn>  Fonts </button></span></p>
20:57:53 <alands> Do you need to have onkeypress to be device independent?
20:59:17 <jamesn> alands - not for a button
20:59:28 <jamesn> alands - buttons fire onclick on an enter or space
21:00:05 <alands> okay, thanks
21:00:41 <jamesn> rrsagent, make minutes
21:00:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/19-html-techs-tf-minutes.html jamesn
21:00:46 <Zakim> -Paul_Adam
21:00:59 <Zakim> -Alan_Smith
21:01:00 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
21:01:02 <Zakim> -Marc_Johlic
21:01:03 <jamesn> zakim, please part
21:01:03 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +1.704.877.aaaa, +1.650.506.aabb, Marc_Johlic, James_Nurthen, Loretta, Alan_Smith, +1.254.247.aacc, Paul_Adam
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21:01:12 <jamesn> rrsagent, make minutes
21:01:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/19-html-techs-tf-minutes.html jamesn