IRC log of i18n on 2013-09-12
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-irc
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- trackbot, prepare teleconference
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 4186
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- ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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- Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 12 September 2013
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- Regrets: Mati
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- Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Sep/0011.html
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- agenda+ Radar
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- agenda+ CSS3 Fonts
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- agenda+ What Time Is This Meeting At?
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- agenda+ PRECIS
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- agenda?
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- agenda- 6
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- agenda- 2
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- agenda- 3
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- agenda- 4
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- agenda?
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- agenda- 5
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- Scribe: Addison Phillip
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- ScribeNick: aphillip
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- Chair: Addison Phillips
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- zakim, who is here?
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- apparently I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has ended, aphillip
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- On IRC I see RRSAgent, aphillip, fsasaki, ed8, r12a, Zakim, trackbot
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- zakim, dial richard please
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- ok, r12a; the call is being made
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- I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has now started
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- +Richard
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- +??P5
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- +aphillip
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- agenda+ Translate attribute and attributes in HTML5
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- +JcK
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- richard: in html5 it says "these attributes are translate"
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- +DavidClarke
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- ... not clear if you put translate=no on element it makes the attributes translate?
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- felix: if you put translate=no then attributes aren't either
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- richard: doesn't say that??
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- felix: something to clarify
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see Richard, aphillip, fsasaki, JcK, DavidClarke
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- On IRC I see David, JcK, RRSAgent, aphillip, fsasaki, ed8, r12a, Zakim, trackbot
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- Topic: Agenda
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- agenda?
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- Topic: Action Items
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
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- close ACTION-255
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- Closed ACTION-255.
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- close ACTION-256
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- Closed ACTION-256.
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- Topic: Info Share
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- zakim, who is noisy?
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- aphillip, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: DavidClarke (64%), fsasaki (39%)
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- zakim, mute DavidClarke
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- DavidClarke should now be muted
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- felix: did presentation on ITS
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- ... hosted a booth about Metanet
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- ... sat on an MT panel
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- ... lots of interest in ITS
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- ... some comments "how can I evaluate benefits for business decision about ITS"
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- ... might need a project/effort to study
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- ... lots of general agreement about value, but not anything quantitative
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- q+
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- ... quite interesting week
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- http://www.mtsummit2013.info/programme.asp
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- ack r12a
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- felix: less recognition of need for standard formats like xliff and such
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- JcK: is it too late to appeal for standard c12n formats?
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- agenda+ canonicalization
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- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1. "Review Radar" taken up [from aphillip]
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- http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
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- q+
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- ack r12a
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- ACTION: addison: add link to tracker product on radar page
- 15:19:36 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-257 - Add link to tracker product on radar page [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-09-19].
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- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 7
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- agendum 7. "CSS3 Fonts" taken up [from aphillip]
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- richard: just sent out a bunch of comments in tracker
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- ... mostly editorial
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- ... just four substantive or for WG attention
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/51
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- richard: issue 295
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/295
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- http://www.w3.org/TR/css-fonts-3/#unicode-range-desc
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- addison: agree with that
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/296
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/299
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- http://www.w3.org/TR/css-fonts-3/#cluster-matching
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- addison: agree
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/301
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- http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/REC-charmod-20050215/#sec-RefUnicode
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- C065 [S] All generic references to ISO/IEC 10646 [ISO/IEC 10646] MUST refer to the latest version of ISO/IEC 10646 available at the date of publication of the containing specification.
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- C064 [S] All generic references to the Unicode Standard [Unicode] MUST refer to the latest version of the Unicode Standard available at the date of publication of the containing specification.
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- Unicode The Unicode Consortium, The Unicode Standard, Version 4, ISBN 0-321-18578-1, as updated from time to time by the publication of new versions. (See http://www.unicode.org/unicode/standard/versions for the latest version and additional information on versions of the standard and of the Unicode Character Database).
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- request that they add additional verbiage
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- chair: objections to these being WG comments?
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- -DavidClarke
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- s/these/these four/
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- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 8
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- agendum 8. "What Time Is This Meeting At?" taken up [from aphillip]
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- action: addison: send proposal for date to switch telecon time to standard time using same wall time
- 15:38:03 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-258 - Send proposal for date to switch telecon time to standard time using same wall time [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-09-19].
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- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 9
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- agendum 9. "PRECIS" taken up [from aphillip]
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- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 11
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- agendum 11. "canonicalization" taken up [from aphillip]
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- JcK: some advantages to using as few ways of doing things as possible
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- ... particularly on the wire
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- ... too late to say "don't do that ever"
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- ... consider "harmful" vs. "necessary"
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- Topic: Encoding document
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- addison: need to publish, will push new document to richard for FPWD by next tuesday
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- Topic: TPAC
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
- 15:51:36 [aphillip]
- richard: only richard and chinese office manager at TPAC
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- ... plus eight observers
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- richard: anyone else going?
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- ... should we have a meeting room?
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- ACTION: addison: send reminder about TPAC with warning will cancel room
- 15:54:30 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-259 - Send reminder about tpac with warning will cancel room [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-09-19].
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- Topic: AOB?
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- -aphillip
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- -JcK
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- -fsasaki
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- Present: Addison, Richard, JohnK, Felix, David
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- rrsagent make minutes
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- zakim, drop richard
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- Richard is being disconnected
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- I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were Richard, aphillip, fsasaki, JcK, DavidClarke
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- zakim, bye
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- Zakim has left #i18n
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: addison: add link to tracker product on radar page [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-irc#T15-19-36
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- ACTION: addison: send proposal for date to switch telecon time to standard time using same wall time [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-irc#T15-38-03
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- ACTION: addison: send reminder about TPAC with warning will cancel room [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/09/12-i18n-irc#T15-54-30