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20:03:30 <james> zakim, who is on the call?
20:03:30 <Zakim> sorry, james, I don't know what conference this is
20:03:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, james, jongund, MichaelC, trackbot
20:03:39 <james> zakim, this is WAI_HTML
20:03:39 <Zakim> sorry, james, I do not see a conference named 'WAI_HTML' in progress or scheduled at this time
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20:04:42 <MichaelC> zakim, this is 9224
20:04:42 <Zakim> ok, MichaelC; that matches WAI_WCAG()4:00PM
20:04:58 <james> zakim, who is on the call?
20:04:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see Jon_Gunderson
20:05:02 <jongund> Jon Gunderson is on the call
20:05:18 <Zakim> +??P1
20:05:20 <Zakim> -??P1
20:05:20 <Zakim> +??P1
20:05:26 <MichaelC> zakim, ??p1 is Michael_Cooper
20:05:26 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper; got it
20:05:35 <Zakim> +James_Nurthen
20:05:54 <Zakim> +[Google]
20:06:32 <MichaelC> zakim, Google is Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:06:32 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid; got it
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20:08:32 <james> scribe: james
20:12:43 <james> JG: I can see where the live region could announce the issue
20:13:13 <james> JG: In the first example I hit the submit button and the focus stays on the submit button. The person would need to back up to the focus area
20:13:41 <james> I would want to move focus to the error container and have links to move to the correct place
20:14:10 <james> JG: If something is more complicated then it might be more difficult to keep track of the errors
20:14:43 <james> LGR: maybe this is feeback to put into the survey
20:15:13 <james> LGR: might be a nice thing to have
20:15:29 <james> JG: perhaps just adding a header at the start of the error
20:15:38 <james> LGR: I think we have other things for this
20:16:34 <james> LGR: getting all the pieces together can be difficult for aria techniques
20:17:45 <Loretta> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20140829ttf/
20:17:56 <Loretta> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130815ttf/
20:21:44 <Loretta> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/ARIA
20:22:43 <james> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-label_to_provide_an_invisible_label_where_a_visible_label_cannot_be_used
20:23:58 <james> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_to_concatenate_a_label_from_several_text_nodes
20:26:14 <james> JG: concern about browser support
20:26:28 <james> JG: wy testing on browsers which don't support
20:36:02 <james> JN: lets put this back on survey for next week so Paul can attend
20:36:41 <james> JN: updates from Marc and James on techniques
20:36:51 <james> MJ: hopefully in a week or so
20:37:14 <james> JN: hopefully I can get some of mine done too
20:38:34 <james> LGR: hopefully can get them out of TF this week
20:39:17 <Zakim> -Jon_Gunderson
20:39:52 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
20:39:54 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:39:56 <Zakim> -Marc_Johlic
20:40:00 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
20:40:02 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
20:40:02 <Zakim> Attendees were Jon_Gunderson, Michael_Cooper, James_Nurthen, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Marc_Johlic
20:40:47 <james> rrsagent, make minutes
20:40:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/05-html-techs-tf-minutes.html james
20:40:52 <james> rrsagent, make log world
20:40:56 <james> rrsagent, make minutes
20:40:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/05-html-techs-tf-minutes.html james
20:41:04 <james> chair: Loretta
20:41:07 <james> rrsagent, make minutes
20:41:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/05-html-techs-tf-minutes.html james
20:41:34 <james> meeting: HTML5 & ARIA Techniques TF
20:41:37 <james> rrsagent, make minutes
20:41:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/05-html-techs-tf-minutes.html james
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