IRC log of aapi on 2013-08-27
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- RRSAgent, make logs member
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- Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
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- ok, trackbot, I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)3:00PM already started
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- Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 27 August 2013
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- +Cynthia_Shelly
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- +[GVoice]
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- zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
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- +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
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- zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
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- ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Aug/0016.html
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- scribenick: clown
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- topci: Test case 344
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- topic: Test case 344
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- JS: this has to do with aria-checked='mixed' on radio buttons.
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- JS: all platforms are failing.
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- JS: Rich has asked that at least two user agents to please implement the spec.
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- JS: right, this is for a menuitemradio button, but it's the same problem.
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- CS: why mixed on a radio button.
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- JS: the spec says, if mixed on a radio button, expose as false.
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- JS: FF exposes it as true.
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testresults?testsuite_id=1&testcase_id=344
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- CS: we may want to change this to MSAA.
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- CS: we didn't implement TogglePattern for radio buttons.
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- CS: but, we did implement selectable for radio buttons.
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- JS: check boxes too?
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- CS: not sure.
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- CS: but in any case, if we change the UAIG to say "expose in selectable state and is-selected = false" UIA Express.
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- CS: that might make IE pass this.
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- JS: just to be sure, those MSAA states and properties.
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- CS: yes.
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- CS: menuitemcheckbox is using the checked state; menuitemradiobuttons is using the selected state.
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- CS: I bet an old desktop radio button implements the selection state.
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- CS: I'd have to go look.
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- JS: so the proposal is to change the UAIG to map radio button aria-checked state to selectable states.
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- JS: for the UIA express column.
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- CS: radio button is not quite the same implementation, but it does expose a selectable action.
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- CS: But, the UAIG for UIA TogglePattern is not implemented, and needs to be switched for UIA Express.
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- action: Cynthia to look into toggle patterns and how that needs to be modified in the UAIG.
- 19:19:55 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-1255 - Look into toggle patterns and how that needs to be modified in the uaig. [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2013-09-03].