IRC log of tt on 2013-08-08
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be TTML
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- ok, trackbot; I see SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start 3 minutes ago
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- Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 08 August 2013
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- Previous minuts: http://www.w3.org/2013/07/25-tt-minutes.html
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- s/minuts/minutes/
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- Present+ Sean
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- Present+ Thierry
- 14:05:24 [nigel]
- zakim, who is talking?
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- Present+ Nigel
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- Present+ Mike
- 14:05:34 [Zakim]
- nigel, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sean (9%), ??P1 (4%), ??P2 (9%)
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- Present+ Plh
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- scribe: plh
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- zakim, p2 is Nigel
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- sorry, plh, I do not recognize a party named 'p2'
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- zakim, i am ??p2
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- +nigel; got it
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- zakim, ??p1 is Thierry
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- +Thierry; got it
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- z
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- Topic: Progress on drafting ttml2
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- Sean: let's skip it that
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- Topic: Profile Submission
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- Sean: regrets from Pierre
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- Regrets: Pierre
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- Topic: TV IG input
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- also skipped
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- Topic: Issue 259
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- issue-259?
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- ISSUE-259 -- Define "closest" -- raised
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/259
- 14:07:39 [plh]
- Nigel: cfstt specify the round up rules
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- ... so it would be sensible to choose that rule, unless there are others
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- Sean: Glenn has an action to go through that
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- Topic: Issue 260
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- Issue-260?
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- ISSUE-260 -- When agent is not @type 'character', then should prohibit actor child. -- raised
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/260
- 14:08:58 [plh]
- Nigel: sent a suggestion
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- --> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2013Aug/0010.html
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- Topic: 261
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- Issue-261?
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- ISSUE-261 -- signaling docoument profile conformance is separate from decoder presentation requirements -- raised
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/261
- 14:10:02 [plh]
- Mike: let's differ one meeting, hoping for some input
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- mijordan has joined #tt
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- ISSUE-263 ?
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- ISSUE-263 -- profile feature set may not match intended feature constraints -- raised
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263
- 14:12:36 [tmichel]
- still open
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- + +1.617.347.aaaa
- 14:13:16 [mijordan]
- Zakim, +1.617.347.aaaa is mijordan
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- +mijordan; got it
- 14:13:21 [tmichel]
- ISSUE-264 ?
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- ISSUE-264 -- What XML entities are valid in TTML canonical syntax -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/264
- 14:13:52 [tmichel]
- sill open Glenn and Sean point of view differ here. Needs more discussion
- 14:15:56 [plh]
- issue-265?
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- ISSUE-265 -- Some bad tests -- raised
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/265
- 14:16:41 [plh]
- Sean: we should do a pass at the test suite indeed
- 14:17:13 [tmichel]
- Should have new tests for the new stuff (like dynamic flow)
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- should run the test suite in Glenn's verifier
- 14:18:39 [tmichel]
- Let wait for some people to volunteer here.
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- plh TTML2 review ends on august 6th ... only two companies answered ...
- 14:19:54 [tmichel]
- Should extent by a week.
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- ACTION:plh to send a reminder for review of TTML1 second edition
- 14:21:15 [tmichel]
- plh: have a review until August 22 nd
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- https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml10/spec/ttml-changes.html#change-history-per-to-rec-23
- 14:21:42 [tmichel]
- Last week of August we can't publish. So may publish early sept.
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- s/TTML2/TTML1 second edition
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- http://mpeg.chiariglione.org/sites/default/files/files/meetings/docs/w13651.
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- docx
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- http://mpeg.chiariglione.org/sites/default/files/files/meetings/docs/w13651.docx
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- ACTION-88 ?
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- ACTION-88 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to make sure the TTML media type is properly registered for Issue-175. -- due 2013-07-31 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/88
- 14:25:18 [plh]
- I'll ping the IESG
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- issue-179?
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- ISSUE-179 -- Interpreting the pixel measure -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/179
- 14:26:56 [plh]
- action-141?
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- ACTION-141 -- Sean Hayes to call for Action to identify discrepancies in TTML 1.0 on different profiles. -- due 2013-02-14 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/141
- 14:27:15 [plh]
- Sean thinking this one needs to be folded in a more general plan about feature cleanup
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- Nigel: not sure what the overall plan.
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- Sean: yes, we'll schedule a profile call
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- ... and find out how they're used
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- ... so folks needs to do their homework on profile first
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- action-166?
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- ACTION-166 -- Mike Dolan to open issue for 1.1 regarding encodings -- due 2013-06-27 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/166
- 14:30:55 [plh]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2013Jun/0129.html
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- issue-197?
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- ISSUE-197 -- charset/encoding unconstrained -- closed
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/197
- 14:32:40 [plh]
- action-174?
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- ACTION-174 -- Mike Dolan to open issue or send text for opening issue on adding ability for document to declare what profile it adheres to (from a document profile compliance perspective) -- due 2013-07-18 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/174
- 14:33:13 [plh]
- Mike: we have a handfull of those...
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- Sean: I'll look into that then
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- action-182?
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- ACTION-182 -- Thierry Michel to create ttml2 and ttml1 short names, to change tracker product labels as needed -- due 2013-07-25 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/182
- 14:34:41 [plh]
- Thierry: we need to use http://www.w3.org/TR/ttml1
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- ... I did some updates in the tracker
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- Sean: we need TTML1, TTML2, and TTML.vnext
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- ... so you need to create TTML.vnext
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- Thierry: ok
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- close action-182
- 14:36:36 [trackbot]
- Closed ACTION-182 Create ttml2 and ttml1 short names, to change tracker product labels as needed.
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- action-184?
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- ACTION-184 -- Thierry Michel to check with Angel if Monday/Friday is ok for TPAC 2013 -- due 2013-08-01 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/184
- 14:37:06 [plh]
- Thierry: Angel agreed that we can meet on Monday and Friday
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- Sean: we don't need a reminder
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- plh: might be good to have a wiki page for the f2f
- 14:38:00 [plh]
- ACTION: Thierry will create a wiki for the face-to-face meeting
- 14:38:00 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-190 - Will create a wiki for the face-to-face meeting [on Thierry Michel - due 2013-08-15].
- 14:38:10 [plh]
- Sean: don't forget to get a visa
- 14:38:46 [tmichel]
- plh: Charter update.
- 14:39:40 [tmichel]
- needs review from the CG.
- 14:40:23 [tmichel]
- have all the issues captured. Maybe should have an Action item for it
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- regrets from me for next week
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- regrets for me too next week
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- -mijordan
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- -nigel
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- -Plh
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- -mike
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- -Sean
- 14:43:10 [tmichel]
- oops regrets for me the following week ...
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- rssagent, draft minutes
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/08-tt-minutes.html tmichel
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- disconnecting the lone participant, Thierry, in SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM
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- SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were Sean, mike, Plh, nigel, Thierry, mijordan
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- zakim ,bye
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- zakim, bye
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- Zakim has left #tt
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/08-tt-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: plh to send a reminder for review of TTML1 second edition [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/08-tt-irc#T14-20-34
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- ACTION: Thierry will create a wiki for the face-to-face meeting [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/08-tt-irc#T14-38-00