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13:59:39 <sandro> trackbot, start meeting
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13:59:43 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
13:59:44 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:59:44 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
13:59:44 <trackbot> Date: 01 August 2013
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14:00:17 <Zakim> + +35386100aaaa
14:00:21 <sandro> just noticing cygri is still on the IRC channel      heh.
14:00:31 <fadmaa> Zakim, +353 is me
14:00:31 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it
14:00:36 <PhilA> zakim, code?
14:00:36 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA
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14:01:00 <PhilA> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:01:00 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it
14:01:05 <Zakim> +Sandro
14:01:10 <HadleyBeeman> Hi all
14:01:12 <Zakim> +??P12
14:01:14 <HadleyBeeman> just dialing in
14:01:16 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:01:22 <Zakim> +davidwood
14:01:24 <olyerickson> zakim, I am [ipcaller].
14:01:24 <Zakim> ok, olyerickson, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
14:01:31 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, P12 is BenediktKaempgen
14:01:31 <Zakim> sorry, BenediktKaempgen, I do not recognize a party named 'P12'
14:01:39 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
14:01:41 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, ??P12 is BenediktKaempgen
14:01:41 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it
14:02:33 <PhilA> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jul/0055.html
14:03:00 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
14:03:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see fadmaa, PhilA, Sandro, BenediktKaempgen, [IPcaller], davidwood, DaveReynolds1
14:03:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see DaveReynolds1, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, bhyland, HadleyBeeman, olyerickson, danbri_, cygri, TallTed, trackbot, sandro
14:03:32 <olyerickson> zakim, [ipcaller] is me.
14:03:32 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
14:04:04 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
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14:04:25 <PhilA> Chair: HadleyBeeman
14:05:40 <olyerickson> +1 to thanking PhilA
14:06:10 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
14:06:15 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
14:06:15 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
14:06:17 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
14:06:17 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
14:06:32 <bhyland1> zakim, who is on the call?
14:06:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see fadmaa, PhilA, Sandro, BenediktKaempgen, olyerickson, davidwood, DaveReynolds1, HadleyBeeman, TallTed (muted)
14:06:38 <PhilA> scribe: PhilA
14:06:45 <PhilA> scribeNick: PhilA
14:06:49 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130801
14:06:55 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Goes through agenda
14:07:01 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
14:07:01 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
14:07:01 <PhilA> topic: Extension
14:07:06 <BenediktKaempgen> last weeks minutes?
14:07:10 <olyerickson> FYI http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Charter_Extension
14:07:14 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: Govt Linked Data WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ -- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jul/0055.html
14:07:15 <PhilA> sandro: It's done - we have the extension
14:07:38 <PhilA> sandro: It hasn't been formally announced yet as it also refers to the eGov IG
14:08:07 <olyerickson> +1 to tahnking sandro
14:08:13 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Thansk to sandro for getting the extension sorted
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14:09:44 <bhyland1> +1 Phil for getting publications requested for publication, (requested 31/07/13).
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14:09:58 <PhilA> PhilA: Explains that the eGov IG is closing and becoming a CG
14:10:05 <bhyland1> zakim, davidwood is me
14:10:05 <Zakim> +bhyland1; got it
14:10:10 <PhilA> topic: Update on deliverables
14:10:12 <bhyland1> zakim, who is on the call?
14:10:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see fadmaa (muted), PhilA, Sandro, BenediktKaempgen, olyerickson, bhyland1, DaveReynolds1, HadleyBeeman, TallTed (muted)
14:10:16 <BenediktKaempgen> How about accepting minutes from last call?
14:10:24 <olyerickson> 24 hours to steep...
14:10:29 <bhyland1> Topic: DCAT
14:10:29 <bhyland1> http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/
14:10:32 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: DCAT has had its 24 hours' notice. It's now going to publication as 2nd LC
14:10:45 <olyerickson> +1 to previous call's minutes
14:10:45 <PhilA> topic: Pause for agreeing last week's minutes
14:10:50 <HadleyBeeman> previous minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-07-18
14:10:59 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
14:11:37 <PhilA> bhyland1: The main wiki page has an error where the minutes for the 18 July go to May something...
14:11:38 <BenediktKaempgen> Bernadette: I just changed it.
14:12:55 <PhilA> bhyland1: How did you do that?
14:13:02 <PhilA> BenediktKaempgen: I changed the annotation
14:13:13 <PhilA> BenediktKaempgen: But I diodn't change the accepted minutes from 20th June
14:13:22 <bhyland1> +1
14:13:25 <Zakim> + +34.63.926.aabb
14:13:26 <olyerickson> +1 to accepting previous call's minutes (with corrected links)
14:13:31 <DaveReynolds1> +1
14:13:36 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
14:13:37 <fadmaa> +1
14:13:41 <HadleyBeeman> +1
14:13:48 <PhilA> RESOLVED: Minutes accepted from 2 weeks ago
14:14:20 <PhilA> -> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-07-18 minutes from 2 weeks ago
14:14:36 <PhilA> bhyland1: Didn't we resolve to publish the DCAT UCR?
14:14:47 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me
14:14:47 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted
14:14:49 <olyerickson> Yes, that is what we discussed two weeks ago.
14:14:56 <PhilA> discussion follows that says no, the minutes are correct. We resolved not to publish it.
14:14:58 <DaveReynolds1> That's my recollection too, we agreed to not publish DCAT UCR at all.
14:15:44 <bhyland1> Ok, thanks for swapping that back in so I have it.
14:15:47 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: John reports that we didn't follow the use case process (this is not entirely unusual)
14:15:57 <PhilA> olyerickson: It just seemed a little bogus...
14:16:28 <PhilA> topic: Back to DCAT
14:16:35 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Are you happy fadmaa ?
14:16:40 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_LC_comments
14:16:54 <PhilA> fadmaa: I am happy with the current status. I've had one comment from Makx that I've recorded
14:17:18 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Bernadette and I will need to do a separate doc for the transition to CR. Should it be in a separate doc?
14:17:36 <PhilA> fadmaa: I'm putting them in a different table in the same doc
14:18:02 <DaveReynolds1> q+
14:18:11 <PhilA> ack DaveReynolds1
14:18:35 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: I remember a post from Leigh Dodds asking for more detail on things like coverage - I've not seen that reflected
14:18:47 <PhilA> fadmaa: I think that was a comment on the first LC
14:19:32 <PhilA> olyerickson: What was the request from Leigh?
14:19:46 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: It was editorial rather than content but it was a request for more guidance
14:20:25 <PhilA> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/2013Jun/0015.html Leigh'c comments
14:20:30 <PhilA> s/'c/'s/
14:20:37 <olyerickson> Hard to hear fadmaa ...comment about what from whom?
14:20:59 <fadmaa> I haven't replied to this email
14:21:20 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: As long as Fadi does reply, we're OK I think?
14:21:25 <fadmaa> +1
14:21:28 <PhilA> olyerickson: Yes I think so
14:21:46 <olyerickson> -1 to opening cans of words
14:21:53 <olyerickson> ...or worms
14:21:59 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: There's the question about versioning going on. Can we wrap this into the usual LC process or does it provide additional complications?
14:22:14 <PhilA> olyerickson: I'd like people's guidance on whether we have to deal with it
14:22:43 <PhilA> olyerickson: If it's the consensus that DCAT has to deal with versioning ina fine grained way than we need to inject it into the process (fade)
14:23:02 <olyerickson> read my email
14:23:03 <bhyland1> We're missing 3-5 words at a time
14:23:05 <olyerickson> ;)
14:23:16 <PhilA> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Aug/0005.html John's comments on this
14:23:48 <olyerickson> do we have to accomodate every request that comes up? is dcat as defined really broken?
14:24:26 <PhilA> -> http://www.w3.org/2013/05/odbp-charter.html DWBP WG charter
14:24:56 <sandro> q+
14:25:01 <DaveReynolds1> q-
14:25:27 <PhilA> PhilA: I agree with John's mail, but point to the DWBP as a possible future place to work on this
14:25:36 <PhilA> sandro: It was in our original charter
14:25:46 <olyerickson> +1 to responsive...+1 to careful thoughtful ;)
14:25:59 <PhilA> sandro: In terms of process, we have to respond, whether we actually agree with it or not - i.e. we don't have do what people ask
14:26:03 <olyerickson> Q
14:26:06 <olyerickson> Q+
14:26:09 <sandro> q-
14:26:14 <MakxDekkers> q+
14:26:39 <PhilA> olyerickson: Is it incumbent on us in our thoughtful response to offer solutions to their request?
14:27:06 <PhilA> ... we might be trying to solve a speculative problem
14:27:31 <PhilA> sandro: We can find a polite version of "we really don't have the capacity to deal with this now."
14:27:58 <PhilA> olyerickson: OK, that's more or less what I said - although I may have been more forceful than is strictly necessary
14:28:22 <PhilA> olyerickson: Some of the things we proposed to discuss in BPs are either out of scope or we don't have time for.
14:28:35 <fadmaa> this was raised before see: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/2013May/0016.html
14:28:42 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Refers to her e-mail http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Aug/0002.html#
14:29:04 <MakxDekkers> q+
14:29:09 <olyerickson> Q-
14:29:16 <PhilA> q- olyerickson
14:29:32 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
14:29:32 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
14:29:32 <PhilA> bhyland1: We're not dealing with versioning in the BP doc but there is language around the issues
14:29:58 <MakxDekkers> q+
14:30:00 <PhilA> bhyland1: We offer advice on URLs persisting in perpetuity - is that OK?
14:30:07 <DaveReynolds1> q+
14:30:10 <olyerickson> +1 to language about considering versioning in metadata (and perhaps naming)
14:30:25 <PhilA> ack MakxDekkers
14:31:06 <PhilA> MakxDekkers: I wanted to make the point that the question that Antoine had has a simple answer - ADMS has a mthod for this (adms:next/prev etc.)
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14:31:29 <olyerickson> ADMS is thwe subclass that a provider should adopt if they need to indicate version relationships
14:31:33 <PhilA> ... so what Antoine was asking was what effect it has that ADMS classes are sub classes of DCAT
14:32:24 <PhilA> MakxDekkers: Another point that came out in the DCAT Application profile was how to point between different versions and we decided to just use the ADMS next and prev properties - maybe people can look at that
14:32:31 <olyerickson> The point of a subclass is to be a specialization of the superclass...in this case w.r.t. version relationships
14:32:44 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Going back to process - the DCAT LC process should be sufficient?
14:32:45 <MakxDekkers> +1
14:32:46 <olyerickson> +1 to happy
14:32:48 <PhilA> PhilA:  Yes
14:32:48 <fadmaa> +1
14:32:53 <HadleyBeeman> q?
14:32:54 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
14:32:57 <PhilA> ack DaveReynolds1
14:32:57 <DaveReynolds1> ack me
14:33:48 <MakxDekkers> +q
14:34:05 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: I read Phil's message raising a slightly different issue. ADMS says that you can have different versions and then you need a different URI. Can an ADMS:Asset be modified without creating a new asset?
14:34:24 <PhilA> ... if so, then we're OK. If not then there's a problem with subclassing DCAT
14:34:43 <HadleyBeeman> ack makx
14:34:57 <PhilA> MakxDekkers: I gave an example http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jul/0052.html
14:35:10 <PhilA> MakxDekkers: ADMS gives you the option to do either
14:35:16 <olyerickson> +1 to closing DCAT as topic
14:35:17 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: OK, I'm happy
14:35:21 <PhilA> topic: ORG
14:35:44 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: Not much happening. We haven't had comments or implementation reports
14:35:56 <PhilA> ... all is quiet. No problems but nothing else either
14:36:07 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Can we help stir up those implementation reports
14:36:16 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: Yes please!
14:36:32 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Pls remind us where the implementation reports are
14:36:38 <PhilA> topic: Data Cube
14:36:51 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: We've had some reports around QB visualisations and one around datasets
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14:37:09 <PhilA> ... we have a report on unintended incomplete integrity constraints
14:37:17 <PhilA> ... we've decided to leave that
14:37:30 <PhilA> or rather just make an editorial change
14:37:58 <PhilA> ... and we had someone pointing out some other ed changes that coule be made concerning the range of a property
14:38:01 <bhyland1> zakim, who is on the call?
14:38:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see fadmaa (muted), PhilA, Sandro, BenediktKaempgen, olyerickson, bhyland1, DaveReynolds1, HadleyBeeman, TallTed (muted), +34.63.926.aabb
14:38:08 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Do you have a sense of the timeline?
14:38:42 <PhilA> sandro: Procedurally it takes about 6 weeks - 2 months from CR to Rec
14:38:52 <PhilA> ... so we should try to be done with CR by end October
14:39:04 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So what's to do after we have the implementation reports
14:39:16 <DaveReynolds1> How to submit QB implementation report (links to table of implementations): http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/How_to_submit_a_Data_Cube_Implementation_Report
14:39:26 <bhyland1> q+
14:39:37 <PhilA> sandro: There's a Director call to have with the chairs and Dave but procedurally after that it's up to the team
14:39:53 <PhilA> bhyland1: Given our track record I think we should try and use end September as a deadline
14:39:56 <PhilA> ack bhyland1
14:40:01 <DaveReynolds1> How to submit ORG report: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/How_to_submit_an_ORG_Implementation_Report
14:40:08 <PhilA> ... i.e. we shouldn't wait until end Oct
14:40:11 <HadleyBeeman> thanks for those links, davereynolds1
14:40:23 <PhilA> sandro: It's not us, it's implementers
14:40:29 <PhilA> bhyland1: Yes, but we need to shout about it
14:40:32 <PhilA> sandro: yes of course
14:41:14 <PhilA> sandro: I'm having difficulty remembering whether we're asking for data producers or data consumers
14:41:26 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1 It's primarily data.
14:41:35 <PhilA> ... we've given people a way to submit the data
14:41:42 <PhilA> ... and visualisations are useful.
14:41:52 <bhyland1> s/primarily data/primarily data producers
14:41:54 <PhilA> ... for transitions it's about whether enough of the vocab has been used
14:42:30 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: It's the change event stuff that is at risk for ORG
14:42:44 <PhilA> ... for QB it's the integrity checks that are at risk
14:43:23 <PhilA> ... for QB we have a lot of implementation reports in that a lot of people have used QB. We have those. What we need is people toa ctually submit the data so we can look at the use of the integrity checks etc.
14:43:38 <PhilA> sandro: So we need to nicely reach out to people we know exist and ask for a little more info
14:44:02 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So I think that leaves us with everyone helping Dave to get more implementations
14:44:13 <PhilA> topic: Best Practices
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14:44:34 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: You were hoping to have a public doc by the end of August, Bernadette?
14:44:47 <PhilA> bhyland1: There have been a fair number of edits during June and July
14:45:11 <PhilA> bhyland1: Biplav was anxious that Martin Kaltenboek's info was included. Taking a meta level approach
14:45:28 <PhilA> ... it's for people whoa re champions within their organisations we want to reach
14:46:21 <PhilA> bhyland1: Basic message from Biplav was please don't drop this important point. The other two editors have been working on it so I think we're on track and on time
14:46:33 <PhilA> ... and it links across to the LD glossary
14:46:52 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Anything else we should be looking at?
14:47:12 <PhilA> bhyland1: We need people to look at it during August before we start making public noise about it
14:47:26 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So we're at the end of the agenda. Anything else? Looks at tracker
14:47:41 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/68
14:47:48 <PhilA> issue-68?
14:47:48 <trackbot> ISSUE-68 -- QB validation rules miss a potentially common case -- open
14:47:48 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/68
14:48:15 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: We responded that we've made the changes but haven't had any push back on it. We could close it or put it in pending review?
14:48:25 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Is there a chance that we might get pushback?
14:48:41 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: ... sandro you were going to check with W3C folks?
14:48:52 <PhilA> ack sandro
14:49:18 <bhyland1> Action: bhyland1 Fold in 10 steps to Linked Open Data from Denise W & Martin K, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0016.html
14:49:18 <trackbot> Error finding 'bhyland1'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users>.
14:49:28 <PhilA> sandro: I seem to have forgotten that... I think I asked if you could write it up a bit.
14:49:30 <HadleyBeeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/2013Jul/0017.html
14:49:32 <PhilA> DaveReynolds1: I sent an e-mail
14:49:38 <PhilA> sandro: Yes you did and I didn't do anything...
14:49:47 <PhilA> q?
14:49:52 <PhilA> q- bhyland1
14:49:57 <PhilA> q- bhyland
14:50:09 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So it's with Sandro and pending review
14:50:21 <PhilA> issue-6?
14:50:21 <trackbot> ISSUE-6 -- How should publishers figure out good URIs for properties with non-literal ranges? -- raised
14:50:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6
14:50:38 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Is this just hanging up? Can we do anything?
14:50:47 <bhyland1> Action: bhyland Fold in 10 steps to Linked Open Data from Denise W & Martin K, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0016.html
14:50:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-148 - Fold in 10 steps to Linked Open Data from Denise W & Martin K, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0016.html [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2013-08-08].
14:51:14 <bhyland1> q+
14:51:41 <olyerickson> never mind
14:51:56 <olyerickson> never mind
14:52:05 <fadmaa> that was before DCAT profiles and conformance
14:52:07 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: It comes from eGov from ages ago...
14:52:12 <fadmaa> I suggest we close it
14:52:15 <olyerickson> Q+
14:52:18 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me
14:52:18 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted
14:52:34 <olyerickson> fadmaa:  is veeery faint...
14:52:53 <PhilA> fadmaa: ... [largely inaudible]
14:53:06 <olyerickson> Q-
14:53:16 <PhilA> fadmaa: Talks about things like the DCAT Application profile.
14:53:27 <PhilA> ... now that we have profiles, that seems to take care of it
14:53:42 <fadmaa> sure
14:53:48 <olyerickson> I think ISSUE-6 is way out of scope, EVEN for BP
14:53:49 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Can you please put something in IRC or a mail so we can close it?
14:53:50 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
14:53:50 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
14:53:51 <PhilA> q?
14:53:57 <PhilA> ack bhyland1
14:54:00 <bhyland1> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users/47262
14:54:02 <PhilA> ack bhyland
14:54:22 <olyerickson> This was closed, cygri re-opened it, and I still think it is out-of-scope
14:54:38 <PhilA> bhyland1: I have a whole bunch of actions that are open - do we need to go through them all on the call?
14:54:46 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I think you can go through them
14:55:01 <olyerickson> Unless we have specific worked examples about the suggested URI designs, what can we actually say that is substantitive
14:55:16 <PhilA> sandro: I see an action as a promise. We normally do them within the group but if it's really obvious that time has moved on then I'd say go ahead and close them
14:55:17 <fadmaa> This issue mainly concerns how publishers can choose good URIs for values of non-literal properties such as dct_spatial and dct_temporal...
14:55:30 <bhyland1> ack bhyland
14:55:39 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: maybe where necessary you could send a note to the list
14:55:44 <PhilA> q+
14:55:53 <PhilA> ack me
14:57:13 <olyerickson> POINT OF ORDER: Are we still talking about "ISSUE-6?" If not, what was our disposition of the issue?
14:57:29 <sandro> issue-6?
14:57:29 <trackbot> ISSUE-6 -- How should publishers figure out good URIs for properties with non-literal ranges? -- raised
14:57:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6
14:57:58 <HadleyBeeman> olyerickson:  no, this is not issue-6.  Fadi is going to send us an email to explain the closure of Issue-6, and then it will be closed.
14:58:21 <olyerickson> HadleyBeeman: thanks...excellent
14:58:54 <olyerickson> Thanks all!
14:59:00 <olyerickson> PhilA: have a great holiday!
14:59:02 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: No meeting next week. Next meeting is 16 August
14:59:03 <BenediktKaempgen> thanks!
14:59:03 <Zakim> -TallTed
14:59:04 <MakxDekkers> bye
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14:59:26 <HadleyBeeman> s/16 August/15 August
14:59:38 <bhyland1> Ah, one question I meant to people was what are people using for conversion of simple tabular data to RDF?
15:00:02 <bhyland1> Google Fusion still?
15:00:05 <bhyland1> other tools?
15:01:30 <PhilA> bhyland1: Ha! we have a whole WG about to look at that :-)  http://www.w3.org/2013/05/lcsv-charter.html
15:01:52 <PhilA> but I think the answer is Open Refine (née Google Refine)
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15:05:20 <bhyland1> @PhilA, right it is a critical subject to have discussion & define best practices for but in the meantime, I need a recommendation for a working economist who wants to convert very simple tabular data to RDF.
15:05:55 <bhyland1> Right, http://code.google.com/p/google-refine/
15:06:27 <bhyland1> That looks fine for his purposes & he is a Google Docs user so that is helpful.
15:07:38 <bhyland1> Take #2 - it has been moved to GitHub, see https://github.com/OpenRefine
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