IRC log of wai-wcag on 2013-07-30

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15:00:57 [trackbot]: Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
15:00:57 [Zakim]: ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG()11:00AM already started
15:00:58 [trackbot]: Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
15:00:58 [trackbot]: Date: 30 July 2013
15:01:31 [Zakim]: +??P15
15:05:23 [MichaelC]: chair: Joshue_O_Connor
15:06:59 [MichaelC]: agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2013JulSep/0033.html
15:07:09 [MichaelC]: regrets: Kathy_Wahlbin
15:07:12 [MichaelC]: scribe: MichaelC
15:07:21 [MichaelC]: regrets+ Loretta_Guarino_Reid
15:09:50 [Joshue]: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/ARIATechs_June21_2013/
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15:10:36 [Zakim]: +Marc_Johlic
15:11:45 [Joshue]: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-label_for_link_purpose
15:11:51 [MichaelC]: topic: WCAG review of 'Using aria-label for link purpose' technique https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/ARIATechs_June21_2013/results#xalertdia
15:15:09 [Joshue]: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/ARIA
15:15:39 [Joshue]: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_to_concatenate_a_label_from_several_text_nodes
15:15:52 [Joshue]: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_for_link_purpose
15:15:58 [Joshue]: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_to_name_controls
15:16:33 [Joshue]: ack bruce
15:17:21 [korn]: q+
15:17:29 [Joshue]: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-label_for_link_purpose
15:18:35 [Joshue]: +q
15:18:58 [Joshue]: ack korn
15:19:58 [MichaelC]: <scribing lightly because scribe editing techniques and scribing both>
15:20:35 [marcjohlic]: +q
15:20:40 [Joshue]: ack me
15:20:44 [MichaelC]: q+ bruce
15:21:30 [Joshue]: JOC: Isn't aria-label better where there isn't text on the page?
15:21:32 [Joshue]: MC: Yes
15:22:22 [Joshue]: +q
15:22:32 [Joshue]: ack marc
15:25:41 [MichaelC]: Discussion of when aria-label should be used instead of aria-labelledby or aria-describedby
15:27:03 [Joshue]: ack me
15:27:34 [korn]: q+
15:27:35 [Joshue]: ack bruce
15:27:58 [Joshue]: +q
15:29:49 [MichaelC]: Consider a second ¨read more link¨ in example to underscore how the aria-label is helping clarify
15:30:01 [Joshue]: ack korn
15:30:04 [Joshue]: -q
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15:30:55 [korn]: q-
15:31:03 [Zakim]: +James
15:31:10 [jamesn]: rrsagent, make minutes
15:31:10 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-wai-wcag-minutes.html jamesn
15:32:19 [Joshue]: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-label_for_link_purpose
15:34:31 [MichaelC]: aria-labelledby isn´t as well supported as aria-label
15:37:44 [MichaelC]: We just realized we discussed this one last week
15:48:26 [MichaelC]: RESOLUTION: accept as (re) amended
15:48:48 [MichaelC]: topic: WCAG review of 'Using aria-labelledby to concatenate a label from several text nodes' technique https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/ARIATechs_June21_2013/results#xad
15:49:42 [MichaelC]: need to add tabindex on example
15:50:11 [MichaelC]: because of IE quirk, otherwise won´t make it to a11y tree
16:00:00 [MichaelC]: q+ to say example three may need substantial rework to avoid political issues
16:00:45 [Joshue]: ack cooper
16:00:51 [Joshue]: ack Mich
16:00:51 [Zakim]: MichaelC, you wanted to say example three may need substantial rework to avoid political issues
16:02:20 [MichaelC]: ack me
16:02:25 [MichaelC]: Example 3 may need reworking to avoid plagiarism and pot-shot issues
16:07:00 [MichaelC]: remove ¨The native HTML label element falls short here because its for attribute allows just one label string to be associated to the text input.¨ not enough relevant to open that can of worms
16:07:54 [korn]: Regrets - I need to drop off a bit early.
16:08:06 [Zakim]: -James
16:08:08 [Zakim]: -Peter_Korn
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16:10:09 [Joshue]: JOC: I like Andrews suggestion but suggest "The string "Extend time-out to" is contained in a native label element and is associated with the input id="timeout-duration." or similar may be better.
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16:11:52 [Zakim]: +Gregg_Vanderheiden
16:12:14 [Joshue]: "The string "Extend time-out to" is contained in a native label element and is associated with the input by id="timeout-duration."
16:14:22 [Zakim]: +James
16:16:33 [MichaelC]: accept awk suggested edits to example 1 modulo modification above
16:18:42 [David]: http://www.davidmacd.com/test/aria-labelledby.html
16:19:05 [jamesn]: http://3needs.org/en/testing/code/aria-labelledby-2.html
16:25:41 [MichaelC]: RESOLUTION: accept as amended
16:27:07 [MichaelC]: topic: Next time
16:27:20 [MichaelC]: just have #8 on this survey to complete
16:27:20 [MichaelC]: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/ARIATechs_June21_2013/results#xdialog
16:27:20 [Joshue]: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-label_for_link_purpose
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16:32:33 [Zakim]: -Michael_Cooper
16:32:34 [Zakim]: -David_MacDonald
16:32:34 [Zakim]: -Joshue
16:32:35 [Zakim]: -Marc_Johlic
16:32:35 [Zakim]: -Bruce_Bailey
16:32:35 [Zakim]: -James
16:32:36 [Zakim]: -Gregg_Vanderheiden
16:32:36 [Zakim]: WAI_WCAG()11:00AM has ended
16:32:36 [Zakim]: Attendees were David_MacDonald, Peter_Korn, Joshue, Bruce_Bailey, Michael_Cooper, Marc_Johlic, James, Gregg_Vanderheiden
16:32:42 [MichaelC]: rrsagent, make minutes
16:32:42 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
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