IRC log of rdf-wg on 2013-07-03

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14:57:38 [trackbot]: Zakim, this will be 73394
14:57:38 [Zakim]: ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
14:57:39 [trackbot]: Meeting: RDF Working Group Teleconference
14:57:39 [trackbot]: Date: 03 July 2013
14:57:42 [AndyS]: AndyS has joined #rdf-wg
14:58:11 [Guus]: chair: Guus
14:59:35 [Guus]: zakim, who is here?
14:59:35 [Zakim]: SW_RDFWG()11:00AM has not yet started, Guus
14:59:36 [Zakim]: On IRC I see AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, manu, trackbot, Guus, gavinc, TallTed, SteveH, davidwood, manu1, yvesr, mischat, ericP, sandro
14:59:50 [davidwood]: Zakim, this is RDF
14:59:50 [Zakim]: ok, davidwood; that matches SW_RDFWG()11:00AM
14:59:56 [davidwood]: Zakim, who is here?
14:59:56 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Guus_Schreiber, +1.540.898.aaaa, GavinC
14:59:58 [Zakim]: On IRC I see AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, manu, trackbot, Guus, gavinc, TallTed, SteveH, davidwood, manu1, yvesr, mischat, ericP, sandro
15:00:03 [davidwood]: Zakim, aaaa is me
15:00:03 [Zakim]: +davidwood; got it
15:00:08 [Zakim]: +??P4
15:00:17 [pfps]: pfps has joined #rdf-wg
15:00:23 [yvesr]: Zakim, ??P4 is me
15:00:23 [Zakim]: +yvesr; got it
15:00:48 [Zakim]: +[IPcaller]
15:00:53 [Zakim]: +[GVoice]
15:00:55 [AndyS]: zakim, IPcaller is me
15:00:55 [Zakim]: +AndyS; got it
15:01:05 [pfps]: zakim, who is on the phone?
15:01:05 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Guus_Schreiber, davidwood, GavinC, yvesr, AndyS, [GVoice]
15:01:10 [Guus]: zakim, who is here?
15:01:10 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Guus_Schreiber, davidwood, GavinC, yvesr, AndyS, [GVoice]
15:01:12 [Zakim]: On IRC I see pfps, AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, manu, trackbot, Guus, gavinc, TallTed, SteveH, davidwood, manu1, yvesr, mischat, ericP, sandro
15:01:23 [pfps]: zakim, gvoice is me
15:01:23 [Zakim]: +pfps; got it
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15:03:01 [Guus]: zakim, who is here?
15:03:02 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Guus_Schreiber, davidwood, GavinC, yvesr, AndyS, pfps
15:03:03 [Zakim]: On IRC I see Arnaud, pchampin, pfps, AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, manu, trackbot, Guus, gavinc, TallTed, SteveH, davidwood, manu1, yvesr, mischat, ericP, sandro
15:03:03 [Zakim]: +Arnaud
15:03:21 [markus]: markus has joined #rdf-wg
15:03:40 [gavinc]: scribe: gavinc
15:03:52 [Arnaud]: Arnaud has changed the topic to: RDF-WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/ -- agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.07.03
15:04:16 [gavinc]: Topic: Admin
15:04:20 [Zakim]: +Sandro
15:04:25 [gavinc]: PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 26 June telecon
15:04:28 [markus]: zakim, code?
15:04:28 [Zakim]: the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), markus
15:04:29 [pfps]: minutes are fine
15:04:33 [Zakim]: +EricP
15:04:38 [gavinc]: Guss: No objections.
15:04:46 [Zakim]: +??P14
15:04:46 [gavinc]: Guus: No objections.
15:04:51 [markus]: zakim, ??P14 is me
15:04:51 [Zakim]: +markus; got it
15:04:55 [gavinc]: RESOLVED: accept the minutes of the 26 June telecon
15:05:02 [gavinc]: subtopic: Actions
15:05:11 [pfps]: q+
15:05:14 [gavinc]: Guus: 9 pending review actions
15:05:36 [pfps]: I marked some old actions as pending review
15:06:05 [gavinc]: Guus: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/pendingreview claiming victory on all 9 unless there are objections?
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15:06:25 [pfps]: q+?
15:06:32 [gavinc]: Guus: Skipping other actions
15:06:49 [gavinc]: subtopic: Summer telecon schedule
15:07:15 [gavinc]: davidwood: Was hoping that we'd get documents to LC before starting bi-weekly
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15:07:21 [Zakim]: +PatH
15:07:24 [AndyS]: +1 to DavidWood
15:07:25 [gavinc]: Guus: Yes, assuming everything goes to plan
15:07:30 [gavinc]: +1 to davidwood
15:07:31 [ericP]: davidwood proposes that if we don't go to LC today, that we meet bi-hourly
15:08:05 [gavinc]: Topic: LC Drafts of Concepts and Semantics
15:08:08 [pfps]: q-
15:08:12 [pfps]: q-?
15:08:12 [gavinc]: Guus: Thanks to davidwood and pfps
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15:09:07 [Guus]: zakim, who is here?
15:09:07 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Guus_Schreiber, davidwood, GavinC, yvesr, AndyS, pfps, Arnaud, Sandro, EricP, markus, PatH
15:09:09 [Zakim]: On IRC I see AZ, PatH, markus, Arnaud, pchampin, pfps, AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, manu, trackbot, Guus, gavinc, TallTed, SteveH, davidwood, manu1, yvesr, mischat, ericP, sandro
15:09:20 [gavinc]: davidwood: Markus did a review. I think I've addressed all of his concerns, except for one. Wanted to move a group of mathy sections into semantics, didn't do that.
15:09:28 [pfps]: there are also independent reasons to keep several of these sections in Concepts
15:09:49 [gavinc]: ... propose to go into last call as the documents stand, and peter and I can talk about moving some of the sections between the documents as I contend that editorial
15:10:00 [gavinc]: markus: Yeah, we can sort it out later.
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15:10:25 [gavinc]: davidwood: Did move isomorphic out of headers per AndyS. I think your right markus to try and work that out.
15:10:39 [gavinc]: subtopic: Semantics
15:10:56 [gavinc]: PatH: Semantics is ready to go. There will be some tweaks to it.
15:11:01 [Zakim]: +??P19
15:11:04 [Zakim]: + +1.619.663.aabb
15:11:11 [gavinc]: ... links to some of the terms in concepts will need to be added
15:11:19 [AZ]: Zakim, aabb is me
15:11:20 [Zakim]: +AZ; got it
15:11:22 [zwu2]: zakim, +1.619.663.aabb is me
15:11:22 [Zakim]: sorry, zwu2, I do not recognize a party named '+1.619.663.aabb'
15:11:25 [gavinc]: pfps: Haven't had any significant changes in a few weeks
15:11:42 [davidwood]: ISSUE-113?
15:11:42 [trackbot]: ISSUE-113 -- RDF Keys -- open
15:11:42 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/113
15:11:45 [davidwood]: ISSUE-118?
15:11:45 [trackbot]: ISSUE-118 -- Simplifying datatype semantics -- open
15:11:45 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/118
15:11:51 [gavinc]: davidwood: pfps, issue 118 and 113 need to be closed before Semantics/Concepts before LC?
15:11:55 [gavinc]: pfps: Yes.
15:11:56 [zwu2]: zakim, +1.619.663.aabb is me
15:11:56 [Zakim]: sorry, zwu2, I do not recognize a party named '+1.619.663.aabb'
15:12:11 [davidwood]: Peter's message: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Jul/0037.html
15:12:12 [gavinc]: davidwood: The mailing list seems to show consensus
15:12:18 [zwu2]: zakim, aabb is me
15:12:18 [Zakim]: sorry, zwu2, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'
15:12:33 [gavinc]: Guus: Happy to resolve these two issues.
15:12:34 [zwu2]: zakim, mute me
15:12:34 [Zakim]: sorry, zwu2, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
15:12:47 [gavinc]: -1 to opening an issue around the lists stuff from JSON-LD
15:13:17 [gavinc]: Guus: No discusion on LC Concepts and Semantics
15:13:27 [gavinc]: ISSUE-113?
15:13:27 [trackbot]: ISSUE-113 -- RDF Keys -- open
15:13:27 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/113
15:13:39 [gavinc]: pfps: We need to close the two issues
15:13:59 [gavinc]: davidwood: We haven't done anything releated to keys, but we have done things related to this issue.
15:14:24 [pfps]: s/two issues/at least issue-118
15:15:16 [pfps]: yes, OWL-2 has keys
15:15:24 [gavinc]: sandro: OWL-2 has keys.
15:15:56 [davidwood]: The RDF Keys message complains about the need for context (datasets) and quads (datasets).
15:16:18 [pfps]: yes
15:16:20 [gavinc]: ISSUE-118?
15:16:20 [trackbot]: ISSUE-118 -- Simplifying datatype semantics -- open
15:16:20 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/118
15:16:36 [davidwood]: PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-113 saying that this WG's work on datasets and OWL-2's introduction of keys addresses the reported concern.
15:17:23 [davidwood]: +1
15:17:24 [AZ]: +1
15:17:25 [Guus]: +1
15:17:26 [Arnaud]: +1
15:17:26 [gavinc]: +1
15:17:27 [AndyS]: +1
15:17:29 [markus]: +1
15:17:32 [pfps]: +1
15:17:34 [zwu2]: 0
15:17:36 [gavinc]: sandro: +1
15:17:45 [yvesr]: +0.8
15:17:48 [davidwood]: RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-113 saying that this WG's work on datasets and OWL-2's introduction of keys addresses the reported concern.
15:17:49 [pchampin]: +1
15:17:49 [PatH]: +1
15:17:51 [pfps]: Proposed: Close ISSUE-118 (datatypes) as specified in Semantics (datatype maps have been removed)
15:18:10 [AZ]: +1
15:18:12 [PatH]: +1
15:18:13 [gavinc]: +1
15:18:14 [pfps]: +1
15:18:16 [davidwood]: +1
15:18:19 [Guus]: +1
15:18:25 [gavinc]: sandro: +1
15:18:28 [markus]: +1
15:18:37 [yvesr]: +1
15:18:39 [davidwood]: RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-118 (datatypes) as specified in Semantics (datatype maps have been removed)
15:19:33 [Guus]: PROPOSED: Publish rdf11-concepts as a Last Call Working Draft https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-concepts/index.html
15:19:41 [pfps]: +1
15:19:42 [gavinc]: +1
15:19:45 [davidwood]: +1
15:19:46 [PatH]: +1
15:19:48 [Guus]: _1
15:19:48 [yvesr]: +1
15:19:50 [markus]: +1
15:19:51 [AZ]: +1
15:19:51 [zwu2]: +1
15:19:52 [Arnaud]: +1
15:19:57 [pchampin]: +1
15:19:57 [Guus]: +1
15:20:05 [markus]: (the JSON-LD ref. should be fixed before publication)
15:20:37 [gavinc]: RESOLVED: Publish rdf11-concepts as a Last Call Working Draft https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-concepts/index.html
15:21:11 [PatH]: +1
15:21:15 [pfps]: +1
15:21:15 [Guus]: PROPOSED: Publish rdf11-mt as a Last Call Working Draft https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-mt/index.html
15:21:18 [pfps]: +1
15:21:19 [davidwood]: +1
15:21:21 [gavinc]: +1
15:21:23 [AZ]: +1
15:21:23 [pchampin]: +1
15:21:27 [Guus]: +1
15:21:32 [markus]: +1
15:21:40 [PatH]: +1
15:21:44 [Arnaud]: +1
15:21:44 [yvesr]: +1
15:21:46 [zwu2]: +1
15:21:49 [gavinc]: RESOLVED: Publish rdf11-mt as a Last Call Working Draft https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-mt/index.html
15:21:53 [AndyS]: +1
15:22:05 [gavinc]: subtopic: Publication Process
15:22:20 [gavinc]: Guus: Requires a number of steps, these are recorded on the wiki
15:22:36 [gavinc]: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Tips_on_publishing_ReSpec-based_documents
15:23:02 [gavinc]: sandro: Need to check what version of respec your using.
15:23:14 [gavinc]: ... there is now a command line version of all those steps
15:23:20 [gavinc]: ... little tricky to get to work
15:23:32 [gavinc]: davidwood: Is there any documentation on this?
15:23:42 [gavinc]: Guus: Link is now to global respec, not our local one.
15:23:47 [gavinc]: +q
15:23:54 [gavinc]: sandro: I'm still on vaction.
15:24:10 [markus]: Concepts still uses an outdated version of ReSpec
15:24:14 [gavinc]: Guus: It's simple enough
15:24:15 [PatH]: Peter, do you want to do this or should I?
15:24:15 [gavinc]: -q
15:24:17 [markus]: Just sent a mail to the list
15:24:30 [gavinc]: sandro: there is a command line if you don't want to do the steps on the website
15:24:39 [gavinc]: Guus: I've done it for 4 documents and done it in detail
15:24:52 [gavinc]: davidwood: when I screw it up, I'll yell for help
15:24:58 [gavinc]: +q
15:25:08 [gavinc]: -1
15:25:10 [gavinc]: -q
15:25:30 [gavinc]: Guus: Need the editors to tell me when it's ready.
15:25:40 [pfps]: I'll take a look at Semantics and see what needs to be done.
15:25:43 [gavinc]: ... and put the documents in drafts/<short-name>/Overview.html
15:26:16 [gavinc]: ... will ask web master to publish these at the same time.
15:26:36 [gavinc]: ... david and pfps will notify guus when they are ready to publish.
15:26:43 [gavinc]: ... last call period?
15:27:00 [gavinc]: Guus: What kind of period do we propose?
15:27:04 [davidwood]: 8 weeks?
15:27:26 [gavinc]: PatH: Really need to be that long?
15:27:41 [markus]: zakim, who is making noise?
15:27:49 [PatH]: Kill that damn fly
15:27:52 [Zakim]: markus, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Guus_Schreiber (19%), pfps (99%), Arnaud (4%)
15:27:53 [Guus]: zakim, who is talking?
15:28:01 [markus]: zakim, mut pfps
15:28:01 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'mut pfps', markus
15:28:03 [Zakim]: Guus, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: davidwood (9%), pfps (100%)
15:28:03 [markus]: zakim, mute pfps
15:28:03 [davidwood]: Zakim, mute pfps
15:28:05 [Zakim]: pfps should now be muted
15:28:05 [Zakim]: pfps was already muted, davidwood
15:28:42 [pfps]: google voice gets into this strange problem when it has communication delays
15:28:48 [gavinc]: sandro: min is 4 week, but can't count weeks in August, first week of September seems best.
15:29:07 [davidwood]: pfps, did you have something to say or was it just google voice?
15:29:10 [pfps]: we have other stuff that is yet to be done, so there is really no reason to compress too much
15:29:11 [PatH]: I miht be at risk for the second week in september.
15:29:15 [gavinc]: Guus: I think we should do first week of September.... 6th September?
15:29:30 [gavinc]: sandro: We still need to do outreach to make sure people hear about it before vactions
15:29:39 [PatH]: OK
15:29:57 [gavinc]: PROPOSED: LC period ends 2013-09-06
15:30:04 [AZ]: +1
15:30:07 [markus]: +1
15:30:09 [PatH]: +1
15:30:10 [gavinc]: +1
15:30:11 [davidwood]: +1
15:30:17 [yvesr]: +1
15:30:21 [Arnaud]: +1
15:30:28 [gavinc]: RESOLVED: LC period for Concepts and Semantics ends 2013-09-06
15:30:47 [gavinc]: Guus: davidwood and I take an action to do out reach
15:31:16 [gavinc]: ACTION on Guus to write blog post and do out reach on publication of Concepts and Semantics
15:31:16 [trackbot]: Error finding 'on'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/users>.
15:31:21 [gavinc]: ACTION Guus to write blog post and do out reach on publication of Concepts and Semantics
15:31:22 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-277 - Write blog post and do out reach on publication of Concepts and Semantics [on Guus Schreiber - due 2013-07-10].
15:31:51 [gavinc]: Topic: TriG
15:32:41 [gavinc]: Guus: Trailing-dot discussion, this has reached concensus.
15:32:53 [gavinc]: subtopic: ISSUE-137
15:33:01 [gavinc]: ISSUE-137?
15:33:01 [trackbot]: ISSUE-137 -- Should TriG be a subset of SPARQL Quad Pattern? -- raised
15:33:01 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/137
15:34:26 [gavinc]: sandro: So my perspective preparing for semtech, noticed how close TriG and SPARQL are. There are two bits that are not the same, and I couldn't really think of how to explain why they are diffrent
15:35:02 [gavinc]: .. the two are GRAPH keywords, and requiring {} around the default graph
15:35:13 [gavinc]: Guus: First one is the GRAPH keyword.
15:35:17 [gavinc]: +q
15:36:41 [Guus]: ack gavinc
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15:38:14 [PatH]: FWIW, the advantages of Sandro's suggestions are obvious. Are there any technical arguments against them? Technical, not procedural.
15:38:30 [gavinc]: +q
15:38:59 [AndyS]: Obvious? Break existing practice?
15:39:12 [gavinc]: -q
15:39:55 [AndyS]: q+
15:40:12 [gavinc]: Guus: Propose adding them as features at Risk
15:40:21 [gavinc]: sandro: I hope we'll see comments on them
15:40:27 [Guus]: ack AndyS
15:41:04 [Zakim]: -Sandro
15:41:14 [gavinc]: AndyS: I can we be so dismisive of parser writters. We don't have any examples of {} not around default graph, we don't understand the results of these.
15:41:26 [Zakim]: +Sandro
15:41:40 [gavinc]: ... I don't care about the GRAPH keyword. But I don't like the issue which includes opinion
15:43:20 [Arnaud]: I would say that's a feature! :)
15:44:05 [PatH]: One could say, its a good idea to raise issues like this before there are any serious implementations.
15:45:26 [PatH]: I presume that making the { } optional would just make life harder for everyone (??)
15:46:59 [pchampin]: making both GRAPH and {} (for default graph) optional may make things harder,
15:47:19 [pchampin]: ... as a leading URI could be either a graph label or a subject in the default graph
15:47:32 [AndyS]: What is the proposal for the grammar? LL(2) ?
15:49:47 [gavinc]: ACTION Eric to create new grammar for TriG that includes optional graph keywords and make {} optional around the default graph
15:49:47 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-278 - Create new grammar for TriG that includes optional graph keywords and make {} optional around the default graph [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2013-07-10].
15:50:23 [AndyS]: and aligns to Turtle.
15:50:40 [gavinc]: ACTION sandro to propose text for TriG feature at risk for both GRAPH keywords and {} being optional around the default graph
15:50:40 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-279 - Propose text for TriG feature at risk for both GRAPH keywords and {} being optional around the default graph [on Sandro Hawke - due 2013-07-10].
15:51:09 [gavinc]: ericP, please use the trig.bnf file that exists in hg
15:52:37 [ericP]: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Turtle_Candidate_Recommendation_Comments#c13
15:52:58 [gavinc]: ericP: I looked at all the comments on the test suite and CR comments, there are no test comments that haven't been tracked and only one that hasn't been responded too
15:53:28 [gavinc]: ericP: Found some more non unicode characters and fixed those as well
15:53:37 [PatH]: pfps: does shift-ctrl-alt-s not work?
15:53:43 [Guus]: q?
15:54:48 [ericP]: PROPOSED: accept all tests in http://www.w3.org/2013/TurtleTests/
15:54:51 [PatH]: pfps: suggest emailing Robin Berjeron
15:55:05 [ericP]: +1
15:55:10 [Guus]: +1
15:55:22 [gavinc]: +1
15:55:23 [davidwood]: +1
15:55:27 [PatH]: +1
15:55:31 [pfps]: +1 (what the heck)
15:55:37 [gavinc]: sandro: +1
15:55:42 [zwu2]: +1
15:55:42 [AZ]: +1
15:55:47 [ericP]: RESOLVED: accept all tests in http://www.w3.org/2013/TurtleTests/
15:57:50 [AZ]: Zakim, who is speaking?
15:57:53 [gavinc]: Zakim, who is speaking?
15:57:56 [PatH]: That sounds like something that should not be done in public.
15:58:00 [Zakim]: AZ, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Guus_Schreiber (27%), davidwood (41%), Arnaud (5%), Sandro (70%)
15:58:12 [davidwood]: Zakim, mute me
15:58:12 [Zakim]: gavinc, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Guus_Schreiber (22%), davidwood (4%), Sandro (64%), PatH (8%)
15:58:13 [Zakim]: davidwood should now be muted
15:58:35 [gavinc]: Zakim, mute sandro
15:58:35 [Zakim]: Sandro should now be muted
15:58:43 [ericP]: ACTION: gavinc to contact rdf-wg-comments, semantic-web and submitters of test results at the bottom of http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Turtle_Candidate_Recommendation_Comments#Implementations
15:58:43 [trackbot]: Error finding 'gavinc'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/users>.
15:58:57 [ericP]: ACTION: gavin to contact rdf-wg-comments, semantic-web and submitters of test results at the bottom of http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Turtle_Candidate_Recommendation_Comments#Implementations
15:58:57 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-280 - Contact rdf-wg-comments, semantic-web and submitters of test results at the bottom of http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Turtle_Candidate_Recommendation_Comments#Implementations [on Gavin Carothers - due 2013-07-10].
16:00:55 [gavinc]: markus: JSON-LD text was updated to say JSON-LD is based on RDF
16:01:27 [gavinc]: Guus: waiting for agreement on consesus from pfps and JSON-LD subgroub
16:01:41 [pfps]: consider that a flag has been raised
16:02:09 [gavinc]: Guus: Thanks, and ajorned. Next Week N-Triples/N-Quads, and JSON-LD and RDF-JSON
16:02:18 [Zakim]: -Arnaud
16:02:18 [Zakim]: -Sandro
16:02:21 [Zakim]: -EricP
16:02:22 [Zakim]: -davidwood
16:02:24 [Zakim]: -PatH
16:02:25 [Zakim]: -markus
16:02:25 [Zakim]: -yvesr
16:02:27 [Zakim]: -AndyS
16:02:27 [Zakim]: -??P19
16:02:32 [Zakim]: -Guus_Schreiber
16:02:34 [pchampin]: bye
16:02:40 [Guus]: trackbot, end meeting
16:02:40 [trackbot]: Zakim, list attendees
16:02:40 [Zakim]: As of this point the attendees have been Guus_Schreiber, +1.540.898.aaaa, GavinC, davidwood, yvesr, AndyS, pfps, Arnaud, Sandro, EricP, markus, PatH, +1.619.663.aabb, AZ
16:02:40 [markus]: bye
16:02:48 [trackbot]: RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:02:48 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/03-rdf-wg-minutes.html trackbot
16:02:49 [trackbot]: RRSAgent, bye
16:02:49 [RRSAgent]: I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/03-rdf-wg-actions.rdf :
16:02:49 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: gavinc to contact rdf-wg-comments, semantic-web and submitters of test results at the bottom of http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Turtle_Candidate_Recommendation_Comments#Implementations [1]
16:02:49 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/03-rdf-wg-irc#T15-58-43
16:02:49 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: gavin to contact rdf-wg-comments, semantic-web and submitters of test results at the bottom of http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Turtle_Candidate_Recommendation_Comments#Implementations [2]
16:02:49 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/03-rdf-wg-irc#T15-58-57
16:02:51 [Zakim]: -GavinC