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<trackbot> Date: 20 June 2013
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<scribe> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Jun/0004.html
action-1200?
<trackbot> ACTION-1200 -- Cynthia Shelly to create table for author errors in UAIG, with columns for each API. -- due 2013-06-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1200
JS: regarding author errors.
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#document-handling_author-errors
JS: Cynthia was going to add
columns and value for each a11y platform.
... Cynthia's proposall is here on wai-xtech:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Jun/0002.html
... I suggested a compromise — to link from the error table to
the roles table.
... But the more I think about it, the more I want to just fill
in the error table.
... there is the danger of keeping the two tables in sync.
DB: yes, that's true.
JS: so, I will take a stab at filling in the error table?
DB: Sure, we can see how it looks, and if necessary, move it to the roles table later, if that looks better.
<davidb> https://github.com/eeejay/specular
<davidb> https://github.com/askalski/mats
ACTION-1221?
<trackbot> ACTION-1221 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to for ISSUE-559, remove the text near the end of the section about ATK/AT-SPI about aria-atomic and member-of, and point to the aria-atomic='true' entry in the mapping table. -- due 2013-05-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1221
JS: see also issue-559
ISSUE-559?
<trackbot> ISSUE-559 -- Missing member of relationships -- open
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/559
look here, but scroll up a bit: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_events_selection
Look for: Exposing additional useful information about the context of the change
JS: the easy solution is to add:
In ATK/AT-SPI *and IA2*.
... previously we though to remove this, but reference the
states and properties mapping table.
... but that doesn't work because this is about events, and the
mapping table is (mostly) about data.
DB: so, how about just adding IA2?
JS: works for me.
... just need to confirm that it works that way for IA2.
DB: I believe it does.
resolved: Joseph to add "and MSAA+IA2" to the section on context changes where it already discusses ATK/AT-SPI (towards the end of section 5.8.2).
<davidb> so when are all the APIs going to converge :)
<davidb> (DB and JS discuss ARIA's scope)
action-1222?
<trackbot> ACTION-1222 -- David Bolter to look into ISSUE-583, and think about section 4.3, step 4A to see if that answers the question. -- due 2013-05-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1222
issue-583?
<trackbot> ISSUE-583 -- Elements that are descendants of an element having aria-activedescendant should not all be focusable -- open
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/583
DB: I *think* 4A. in section 4.3 is still fragile — or I'm unsure.
JS: the problem is that not all
descendants of a container that has a aria-activedescendant are
intended to be "focusable".
... Rich is asking for another criterion so that only the
intended focusable descendants are marked focusable.
... He suggests that the descendant must have an ID
attribute.
DB: but that won't always work since ID might be used for, say, styling.
JS: right
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