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<trackbot> Date: 07 June 2013
<korn> See https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/edits-for-michael-post-2nd-public-draft for status
<korn> Please all also take a look at https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/to-do-before-3rd-final-public-draft
<korn> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/final_issues_7Jun/results
<scribe> scribe: janina
mp: Process note has general
agreement
... Any objection to unanimous consent?
[crickets]
mp: Accepted
... Next is changes of context ....
... We have only a minor editorial correction ...
pk: Our notes are always outside the white-box. So is OK
mp: We have been
consistent.
... White-box is reserved for WCAG content.
... Any objection to the convention re white-box content?
[crickets]
<korn> Loic - see 2.1.2 for example
<korn> Also 2.2.2
Loic: A nit perhaps, if we say "with our edit the text would read ..."
pk: Suggest this be taken up on Editor's List
mp: So deferred to the
Editors.
... Any objection on "change of content?"
[crickets]
mp: Agreed
... For 3.2.1 on focus ...
... Agreement on survey, any additional considerations?
... Any objection?
[crickets]
mp: Agreed
... Next is changes to the Introduction
... We all seem happy with Andi's edits
... Peter proposed a para to be deleted,
... Any objection to intro as written by Andi, with the para
beginning "Later drafts of this document ..." removed
[crickets]
mp: Agreed
pk: Wait, ... ... ...
... Para I suggested, hmmm, where is it?
... Just want to mark it as strike-through and highlight in red
....
... OK
mp: Agreed
... Final is changes to the title
... Survey had no objection
... Any objection now?
[crickets]
mp: Agreed
DRAFT RESOLUTION: alex_ All resolutions in this survey are approvedwith editorial changes as noted in the minutes above.
RESOLUTION: All resolutions in this survey are approved with the editorial changes as noted in the minutes above.
<korn> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/accessibility_services/results
<Mike_P> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/accessibility_services/results
mp: Two questions remaining
... Great unanimity on the first, but a diagression on
services
gv: Agree what we discuss is best understood as a feature, not a service
<Mike_P> +q
GV: OS have different roles, i.e.
we should be clear to whom what is exposed
... So OS services expose to AT features
<korn> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#atdef
pk: Note 3 may already cover
this
... On second thought, too tied to user agents
<korn> services provided by an operating system, user agent, or other platform software that enable non-Web documents or software to expose information about the user interface and events to assistive technologies or accessibility features of software
gv: Good for me
mp: I'm also OK
... Any counterview?
... Any objections?
[crickets]
mp: Agreed
DRAFT RESOLUTION: Group agrees to accept the revised 3a on the Wiki page
RESOLUTION: Group agrees to accept the revised 3a on the Wiki page
mp: One more, edits to remaining terms -- other terms
gv: So 3b is moot
pk: Believe we've also resolved GV's other comments common to both
mp: Noting Loic points out two notes re "programatically determined" -- not the same
pk: Did I edit one and not the other? Hmmm
mp: Suggest we concentrate on the note in red
pk: Do we need the parenthetical
note above?
... Suggest dropping the parenthetical remark.
<korn> Note: Software typically enables content to be programmatically determined through the use of <key term link>accessibility services of platform software</key term link>. Non-Web documents typically enable content to be programmatically determined through the use of accessibility services of the user agent (which is a kind of platform software).
mp: OK, agreement to remove
<greggvanderheiden> +1
<korn> Note: Software typically enables content to be programmatically determined through the use of <key term link>accessibility services of platform software</key term link>. Non-Web documents typically enable content to be programmatically determined through the use of accessibility services of the user agent.
mp: Any objection to unanimous consent to accept common terms edits as now amended in the Wiki?
pk: Includes Principal 4 and Guidelines 4.1
[crickets]
mp: Agreed
DRAFT RESOLUTION: We accept the common terms as now entered in the Wiki
RESOLUTION: We accept the common terms as now entered in the Wiki
<Loic> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/track/actions/open
<Mike_P> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/track/actions/open
mp: First item, Andi believes is
dealt with completely in the intro
... Believe largely an editorial matter now
... Any discussion?
... Now Action-96
action-96?
<trackbot> ACTION-96 -- Peter Korn to develop a WCAG2ICT Note to "change of context" glossary term (and/or to SC 3.2.1: On Focus) -- due 2013-05-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/track/actions/96
pk: It's done
action-96 close
mp: Next ...
action-97?
<trackbot> ACTION-97 -- Gregg Vanderheiden to propose modification to WCAG 2.0 ERRATA for SC 1.3.1 to clarify structure wrt collections of web pages -- due 2013-05-10 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/track/actions/97
gv: done
<korn> https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/to-do-before-3rd-final-public-draft
pk: Believe we've now closed all
glossary terms
... Hmmm, looking at the wrong doc!
... Judy may have some updates ...
... In the intro
... We've cleared all actions
[checking the checklist ...]
mp: I've been shadowing your
iteration, Peter. Looks good.
... If Judy does edit the intro, we'll need to review
that.
... Remaining changes simply need to be made, then we likely
need a final approval round.
... Is there more to do in telecons?
pk: I think not.
mp: If a new intro from Judy, we
may want to survey.
... If minor, perhaps not.
... If substantive, we may need a telecon to discuss.
... Then, we need a final approval.
... I'm unable next Friday
pk: I can, if need be.
... We'll need WCAG-WG approval as well
mp: Tentative telecon for Friday
14 June next
... Believe we can adjourn!
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