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14:58:07 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
14:58:07 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM scheduled to start 58 minutes ago
14:58:08 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:58:08 <trackbot> Date: 06 June 2013
15:00:09 <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:00:09 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has not yet started, janina
15:00:10 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, MarkS, darobin, SteveF, MichaelC, janina, hober, trackbot
15:00:13 <MarkS> zakim, this is WAI
15:00:13 <Zakim> WAI matches both WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM and WAI_ERTWG(Eval TF)10:00AM, MarkS
15:00:23 <MarkS> zakim, this is 2119
15:00:23 <Zakim> ok, MarkS; that matches WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM
15:00:29 <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:00:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see David_MacDonald, ??P21, MarkS, John_Foliot
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15:01:52 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
15:01:52 <Zakim> the conference code is 2119 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
15:01:59 <MarkS> zakim, ??P21 is Janina
15:01:59 <Zakim> +Janina; got it
15:02:08 <SteveF> will be there in a moment
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15:02:11 <Zakim> + +1.201.236.aaaa
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15:02:52 <MarkS> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:02:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Janina, MarkS, John_Foliot, +1.201.236.aaaa, hober
15:02:56 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:03:15 <SteveF> Chair: Stevef
15:03:17 <SteveF> agenda+ Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
15:03:18 <SteveF> agenda+ Alt Edits Status Update
15:03:20 <SteveF> agenda+ Longdesc Status Update http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013May/0079.html
15:03:21 <SteveF> agenda+ HTML5 testing
15:03:23 <SteveF> agenda+ Media Transcript
15:03:24 <SteveF> agenda+ Media Source Extensions: Do we review?
15:03:26 <SteveF> agenda+ Subteam Reports: Bug Triage; AAPI Mapping;
15:03:28 <SteveF> agenda+ Wiki, TF pages, similar administrative items
15:03:28 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:03:29 <SteveF> agenda+ (Overdue) Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
15:03:31 <SteveF> agenda+ Other Business
15:03:32 <SteveF> agenda+ Identify Scribe for the next TF teleconference http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
15:03:34 <SteveF> agenda+ be done
15:03:45 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
15:04:05 <SteveF> zakim,[IPcaller.a] is me
15:04:05 <Zakim> +SteveF; got it
15:04:12 <MarkS> zakim, [Micro is paulc
15:04:12 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
15:04:23 <MarkS> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:04:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Janina, MarkS, John_Foliot, +1.201.236.aaaa, hober, paulc, [IPcaller], SteveF
15:05:28 <David> scribe: David
15:05:51 <David> zakim, next item
15:05:51 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List" taken up [from SteveF]
15:05:51 <SteveF> zakim, next item
15:05:53 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, SteveF
15:06:26 <David> zakim, close item 1
15:06:26 <Zakim> agendum 1, Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List, closed
15:06:28 <Zakim> I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:06:28 <Zakim> 2. Alt Edits Status Update [from SteveF]
15:06:49 <David> zakim, next item
15:06:49 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Alt Edits Status Update" taken up [from SteveF]
15:07:19 <SteveF> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Jun/0013.html
15:07:44 <David> Steve has made some progress sent out email with stuff that is updated. All the section listed there are for review.
15:08:11 <paulc> Good progress, Steve.
15:08:23 <David> SF: haven't updated lately... next will be to sort out administrative things
15:09:09 <David> SF: needs Janina to get overview, Janina should have it soon.
15:10:09 <David> SF: i will drop it into the editors draft and we will review., best way to get results is to file bugs... email feedback not as effective... so just file bug
15:10:31 <SteveF> zakim, next item
15:10:31 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Longdesc Status Update http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013May/0079.html" taken up [from SteveF]
15:10:56 <MarkS> http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-html-longdesc-20130606/
15:11:41 <David> Longdesc published on schedule. as published this morning, announcements went out an hour ago, Mark will update home page for the group
15:12:04 <David> Mark will coordinate with Charles,
15:12:06 <paulc> q+
15:13:02 <David> Janina: don't want to dally over this, hope it will go through moving to last call quickly.
15:13:07 <SteveF> ack paulc
15:13:18 <David> Paul: what qbout bug to rename it
15:13:30 <paulc> Current bugs list (4):
15:13:31 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&component=HTML%20Image%20Description%20Extension&product=HTML%20WG&list_id=14640
15:13:33 <David> s/qbout/about
15:14:46 <Zakim> - +1.201.236.aaaa
15:14:55 <MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22187
15:14:56 <SteveF> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22187
15:15:57 <David> SF: it is proposed to be rejected
15:17:20 <SteveF> zakim, next item
15:17:20 <Zakim> agendum 4. "HTML5 testing" taken up [from SteveF]
15:17:26 <David> SF: Make sure to wait for updates in alt guidance, before filing bugs. I have them in the list in the email
15:17:35 <MarkS> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/html-a11y-tf-html5-testing-review/results
15:20:17 <David> JS: need to test new things, purpose of this call is the musts to skip vs. the must that should not be skiped
15:20:29 <David> s/skiped/skipped
15:21:01 <David> Janina, we can look for the word MUST, as a guide to help make those decisons
15:22:19 <David> Janina, OF has been hard at work for aria, and so that can be integrated into this work
15:22:37 <David> S/OF/PF
15:23:26 <David> SF but this will not cover mapping of roles to AOI, but I have been doing a lot of that testing already, but we need to formalize, but can be used as a basis
15:24:46 <David> JS W3C proves it is imlementABLE, not whether it is imlemented, the later is encourages but not for us for CR
15:25:35 <David> SF we just have to have 2 imlementations
15:25:51 <David> js feature by feature bases
15:26:04 <SteveF> zakim, next item
15:26:04 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Media Transcript" taken up [from SteveF]
15:26:55 <David> JS JF and I will call today after 1pm EST
15:27:12 <SteveF> zakim, close item 5
15:27:12 <Zakim> agendum 5, Media Transcript, closed
15:27:13 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:27:13 <Zakim> 6. Media Source Extensions: Do we review? [from SteveF]
15:27:26 <SteveF> zakim, next item
15:27:26 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Media Source Extensions: Do we review?" taken up [from SteveF]
15:28:11 <David> JF what's this about?
15:28:36 <MarkS> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/media-source/media-source.html
15:28:59 <David> PC a set of APIs that allow client to do adaptive streaming, choose particular form of material that you want to show through the UA
15:29:30 <David> JS for adaptive altnative for media, this could be our pathway
15:30:09 <David> JS We at PF need to look into this more even though we have started, but it is relly important, so we should look over the shoulder
15:30:25 <David> JS we will ask JeffWGBH  and Sylvia
15:30:38 <David> JS need deep technical read
15:31:35 <SteveF> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10941
15:31:44 <David> JF have an open acton item that needs to look at controls
15:32:54 <SteveF> zakim, next item
15:32:54 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Subteam Reports: Bug Triage; AAPI Mapping;" taken up [from SteveF]
15:34:25 <David> Leonie: 2nd bug triage meeting w new recruits, kind of quiet, only 7-8 only one had accessibility...
15:35:13 <David> JF theer a s
15:35:46 <David> JF there are some bugs, do I owe bugs, we agree all up to our eyeballs
15:36:57 <David> Mark, they were assigned list of 4 bugs I sent them to you this morning JF
15:38:01 <David> JF 14642 is way more than a bug
15:38:02 <MarkS> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10642
15:38:27 <David> s/14642/10642
15:40:36 <David> Leonie one other question... accessibility tf component, with shadow bugs, as a way to track bugs we are interested in but really don't really want to track... i'm concerned it could multiply
15:40:59 <David> JS what do you thingk
15:41:11 <MarkS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013May/0086.html
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15:42:18 <David> Leonie, probably don't have time to manage it properly, we should do it with keywords, bugs that are not currently bugs but could be in the future... b
15:43:56 <David> q+
15:44:54 <David> JS we can wait for a decision when Charles comes back to us
15:45:01 <David> ack david
15:45:59 <David> JS Charles chairs next week... put on the agenda
15:46:19 <SteveF> zakim, next item
15:46:19 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Wiki, TF pages, similar administrative items" taken up [from SteveF]
15:47:09 <David> Mark, been doing updates nd longdesc, , now I will go back to task force work statement
15:47:34 <SteveF> zakim, close item 8
15:47:34 <Zakim> agendum 8, Wiki, TF pages, similar administrative items, closed
15:47:35 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:47:35 <Zakim> 9. (Overdue) Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open [from SteveF]
15:47:46 <SteveF> zakim, next item
15:47:46 <Zakim> agendum 9. "(Overdue) Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open" taken up [from SteveF]
15:51:58 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
15:52:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:54:32 <David> JF 153 and 136 are linked, the last piece of work i have is to delve into the control issue, it is the artifact of a larger problem, have not done it , leave open
15:55:46 <David> close 171
15:56:39 <David> 99 obe
15:57:13 <David> 22 obe
15:57:25 <SteveF> zakim, next item
15:57:25 <Zakim> agendum 10. "Other Business" taken up [from SteveF]
15:57:54 <SteveF> zakim, close item 10
15:57:54 <Zakim> agendum 10, Other Business, closed
15:57:55 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:57:55 <Zakim> 11. Identify Scribe for the next TF teleconference http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List [from SteveF]
15:58:27 <SteveF> chaals is chair for next week unless unavailable then Janina
15:58:39 <SteveF> zakim, next item
15:58:39 <Zakim> agendum 11. "Identify Scribe for the next TF teleconference http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List" taken up [from SteveF]
15:58:51 <SteveF> zakim, close item 11
15:58:51 <Zakim> agendum 11, Identify Scribe for the next TF teleconference http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List, closed
15:58:53 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:58:53 <Zakim> 12. be done [from SteveF]
15:59:14 <Zakim> -paulc
15:59:56 <David> zakim, bye
15:59:57 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were David_MacDonald, MarkS, John_Foliot, Janina, +1.201.236.aaaa, hober, [Microsoft], [IPcaller], SteveF, paulc
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16:00:13 <David> rrsagent, make log public
16:00:24 <David> rrsagent, make minutes
16:00:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/06-html-a11y-minutes.html David
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