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13:55:55 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_(WCAG2ICT)10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
13:55:56 <trackbot> Meeting: WCAG2ICT Task Force Teleconference
13:55:56 <trackbot> Date: 31 May 2013
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13:59:03 <andisnow> zakim, this will be WCAG2ICT
13:59:03 <Zakim> ok, andisnow, I see WAI_(WCAG2ICT)10:00AM already started
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14:00:16 <andisnow> zakim, ??P10 is Mike_Pluke
14:00:16 <Zakim> +Mike_Pluke; got it
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14:00:46 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
14:01:05 <andisnow> agenda+ Discuss the Revisiting Programmatically Set and Programmatically Determined survey
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14:01:19 <andisnow> zakim, Microsoft has Alex_Li
14:01:19 <Zakim> +Alex_Li; got it
14:01:42 <Loic> Zakim, ??P14 is me
14:01:42 <Zakim> +Loic; got it
14:01:52 <andisnow> zakim, ??P14 is Loic_Normand_Martinez
14:01:52 <Zakim> I already had ??P14 as Loic, andisnow
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14:02:38 <BBailey> zakim, i am bruce
14:02:38 <Zakim> ok, BBailey, I now associate you with bruce
14:02:42 <andisnow> agenda+ Discuss the Revisiting Programmatically Set and Programmatically Determined survey
14:02:48 <BBailey> zakim, mute me
14:02:48 <Zakim> bruce should now be muted
14:02:51 <andisnow> chair: Andi_Snow-Weaver
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14:03:01 <andisnow> regrets: Judy_Brewer
14:03:06 <andisnow> zakim, who is on the phone
14:03:06 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', andisnow
14:03:08 <Zakim> +Mary_Jo_Mueller
14:03:16 <andisnow> scribe: Mary_Jo_Mueller
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14:03:28 <MaryJo> scribenick: MaryJo
14:03:33 <andisnow> evisitingProgrammaticallySetDetermined/results
14:03:38 <janina> zakim, ??P16 is Janina_Sajka
14:03:38 <Zakim> +Janina_Sajka; got it
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14:03:41 <MaryJo> zakim, next item
14:03:41 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Discuss the Revisiting Programmatically Set and Programmatically Determined survey" taken up [from andisnow]
14:03:45 <andisnow> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/RevisitingProgrammaticallySetDetermined/results
14:04:21 <MaryJo> We had general agreement on the proposals, with a slight edit from Peter.
14:06:03 <Zakim> +Peter_Korn
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14:07:09 <korn> q+
14:07:23 <andisnow> q+
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14:08:43 <andisnow> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:08:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Mike_Pluke, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Gregg_Vanderheiden, [Microsoft], Loic, bruce (muted), Mary_Jo_Mueller, Janina_Sajka, Peter_Korn
14:08:46 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has Alex_Li
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14:10:07 <greggvanderheiden> q+
14:11:52 <korn> q-
14:12:49 <andisnow> q-
14:13:24 <MaryJo> Discussion on the placement of the phrase 'including user agents' in the note.
14:13:43 <Loic> q-
14:14:29 <Zakim> +Peter_Korn.a
14:14:41 <Zakim> -Peter_Korn
14:15:47 <korn> q+
14:16:11 <andisnow> Note: Software, INCLUDING USER AGENTS, typically makes content programmatically determinable through the use of accessibility services of the platform, INCLUDING APPLICATION OR USER AGENT SOFTWARE ACTING AS A PLATFORM"
14:16:34 <andisnow> ack gregg
14:16:51 <andisnow> ack korn
14:17:43 <MaryJo> The key point we need to convey in the note is that the path to 'programmatically determined' is through the use of platform accessibility services.
14:18:03 <greggvanderheiden> q+
14:18:45 <korn> q-
14:18:53 <andisnow> ack gregg
14:18:56 <MaryJo> Documents get this done through software that interprets the markup and maps it to the platform accessibility services (a user agent).
14:19:09 <Loic> Software typically makes content programmatically determinable through the use of accessibility services of the platform. Documents typically makes content programmatically determinable through the use of accessibility services of the user agent.
14:21:32 <MaryJo> s/(a user agent)/(a user agent acting as a platform)
14:22:03 <alex_> q+
14:22:14 <andisnow> ack alex
14:22:53 <greggvanderheiden> q+
14:23:05 <andisnow> ack gregg
14:23:46 <korn> Note: Software typically makes content programmatically determinable  through the use of accessibility services of the platform.  Non-Web  documents typically make content programmatically determinable through  markup, and the document's user agent then typically exposes that markup   through the use of accessibility services of the platform.
14:24:27 <andisnow> +1 to Peter's proposal
14:24:44 <korn> q+
14:24:56 <Mike_P> +1 to Peter's proposal
14:25:02 <alex_> q+
14:27:21 <korn> For "set": Note: Software typically enables content to be  programmatically set through the use of accessibility services of the  platform.  Non-Web documents typically enables content to be  programmatically set through markup, and the document's user agent then  typically modifies that markup a the direction of use of accessibility  services of the platform.
14:27:32 <andisnow> Note: Software typically makes content programmatically determinable  through the use of accessibility services of the platform.  Non-Web  documents typically make content programmatically determinable through  markup, and the document's user agent then typically exposes that markup to assistive technology through the use of accessibility services of the platform or other accessibility supported means.
14:28:31 <alex_> q-
14:28:35 <Mike_P> +1 to Andi's augmented explanation
14:29:34 <greggvanderheiden> Software typically enables content to be  programmatically set through the use of accessibility services of the  platform.  Non-Web documents typically enables content to be  programmatically by using the accessibility services of the user agent, which serves as the intermediate platform for the non-web content.
14:32:05 <Mike_P> +q
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14:33:56 <andisnow_> Just correcting some typos in GV's proposal: Software typically enables content to be  programmatically DETERMINED through the use of accessibility services of the  platform.  Non-Web documents typically ENABLE content to be  programmatically DETERMINED by using the accessibility services of the user agent, which serves as the intermediate platform for the non-web DOCUMENT.
14:35:56 <Mike_P> q-
14:36:02 <korn> q-
14:36:26 <andisnow_> For non-Web documents, the user agent serves as the intermediate platform for the non-web DOCUMENT.
14:37:59 <greggvanderheiden>  Software typically enables content to be  programmatically DETERMINED through the use of accessibility services of the  platform.  For non-Web documents, the user agent serves as the intermediate platform for the non-web DOCUMENT.
14:40:12 <korn> q+
14:40:17 <David> q+
14:41:27 <korn> q-
14:43:19 <andisnow> Just correcting some typos in GV's proposal: Software typically enables content to be  programmatically DETERMINED through the use of accessibility services of the  platform.  Non-Web documents typically ENABLE content to be  programmatically DETERMINED by using the accessibility services of the user agent, which serves as the intermediate platform for the non-web DOCUMENT.
14:44:21 <greggvanderheiden> A computing platform includes a hardware architecture and a software framework (including application frameworks), where the combination allows software to run. Typical platforms include a computer architecture, operating system and Runtime libraries.[1]
14:44:28 <greggvanderheiden> wikipedia
14:44:31 <andisnow> ack david
14:45:12 <korn> Note: Software typically enables content to be  programmatically  determined through the use of accessibility services of the  platform.   Non-Web documents typically enable content to be  programmatically  determined by using the accessibility services of the user agent.
14:47:20 <MaryJo> RESOLUTION: Accept the proposal for 'programmatically determined' as amended in the meeting.
14:47:59 <andisnow> For programmatically set: Note: Software typically enables content to be  programmatically  set through the use of accessibility services of the  platform.  Non-Web documents typically enable content to be  programmatically  set by using the accessibility services of the user agent.
14:48:33 <MaryJo> RESOLUTION: Accept the proposal for 'programmatically set' as amended in the meeting.
14:48:39 <MaryJo> zakim, next item
14:48:39 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Discuss the Revisiting Programmatically Set and Programmatically Determined survey" taken up [from andisnow]
14:48:45 <andisnow> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/misc20130531/results
14:49:55 <BBailey> zakim, unmute me
14:49:55 <Zakim> bruce should no longer be muted
14:50:03 <BBailey> zakim, mute me
14:50:03 <Zakim> bruce should now be muted
14:50:14 <andisnow> Sometimes content is primarily intended to create a specific sensory experience that words cannot fully capture. One example could be a symphony performance where the intent is to allow the user to hear that particular performance. Another example could be the image of a painting, where the INTENT of the image is to let users know what [a painter's work] look like. For such content, text alternatives at least identify the non-text content with a descr[CUT]
14:50:15 <andisnow> label and where possible, additional descriptive text. If there is another reason for including the content in the page (for example [as an exercise to identify] an impressionist painting) and the intended information can be described it is helpful to include that information as part of the text alternative(s).
14:52:41 <andisnow> Sometimes content is primarily intended to create a specific sensory experience that words cannot fully capture. One example could be a symphony performance where the intent is to allow the user to hear that particular performance. Another example could be the image of a painting, where the INTENT of the image is to let users know what [a painter's work] looks like. For such content, text alternatives at least identify the non-text content with a desc[CUT]
14:52:41 <andisnow> label and where possible, additional descriptive text. If there is another reason for including the content in the page (for example [as an exercise to identify] an impressionist painting) and the intended information can be described THE SUCCESS CRITERIA REQUIRES that information TO BE INCLUDED as part of the text alternative(s).
14:54:03 <greggvanderheiden> then it is no longer a pure sensory experience
14:54:28 <andisnow> Sometimes content is primarily intended to create a specific sensory experience that words cannot fully capture. One example could be a symphony performance where the intent is to allow the user to hear that particular performance. Another example could be the image of a painting, where the INTENT of the image is to let users know what [a painter's work] looks like. For such content, text alternatives at least identify the non-text content with a desc[CUT]
14:54:28 <andisnow> label and where possible, additional descriptive text. If there is another reason for including the content in the page (for example [as an exercise to identify] an impressionist painting) and the intended information can be described THEN IT IS NO LONGER A PURE SENSORY EXPERIENCE.
14:55:26 <MaryJo> RESOLUTION: Accept the proposal for 1.1.1 INTENT as amended in the meeting.
14:55:34 <korn> Note: Software typically enables content to be  programmatically  set  through the use of accessibility services of the  platform.  Non-Web  documents typically enable content to be  programmatically THROUGH THE USE OF accessibility services of the user agent.
14:56:26 <MaryJo> s/programmatically THROUGH THE USE/programmatically set THROUGH THE USE/
14:57:14 <MaryJo> The above is an editorial change to 'programmatically set' and 'programmatically determined'.
14:58:57 <greggvanderheiden> s/de[CUT]/descriptive.../
15:00:35 <MaryJo> The items in this survey are to go to the WCAG working group to update the INTENT for these SC.
15:01:23 <MaryJo> SC 3.3.4: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/misc20130531/results#xq1
15:03:03 <alex_> q+
15:04:08 <andisnow> This success criterion does not intend to cover scenarios where the legal commitments or financial transactions are made that cannot be controlled even with a properly designed page. An example could be data usage charges from Internet service providers that happen just by accessing any Web page. Another example could be the use of a web-based mail service to send an e-mail that confirms a product purchase. The web-based mail service cannot know that the
15:04:09 <andisnow> e-mail sent will cause a financial transaction.
15:05:49 <andisnow> ack alex
15:06:02 <MaryJo> RESOLUTION: Accept the proposal for 3.3.4 INTENT as amended in the meeting.
15:06:57 <MaryJo> SC 3.2.2 Intent: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/misc20130531/results#xq2
15:07:38 <greggvanderheiden> 3.2.3 Consistent Navigation: Navigational mechanisms that are repeated on multiple Web pages within a set of Web pages occur in the same relative order each time they are repeated, unless a change is initiated by the user. (Level AA)
15:07:51 <greggvanderheiden> 3.2.2 On Input: Changing the setting of any user interface component does not automatically cause a change of context unless the user has been advised of the behavior before using the component. (Level A)
15:08:32 <greggvanderheiden> q+
15:08:37 <andisnow> q+
15:08:53 <David> q+
15:10:17 <MaryJo> Users might be alerted during data entry automatically without submitting the data, which is helpful as the user gets feedback right away and can fix the problem without submitting a full form.
15:10:22 <andisnow> ack gregg
15:11:26 <korn> q+
15:11:43 <MaryJo> However, if focus is automatically moved away from the field (.eg. it is moved to a dialog), it might be confusing to the user if they aren't warned about this behavior.
15:12:02 <MaryJo> s/.eg./e.g./
15:12:44 <andisnow> ack andi
15:12:54 <MaryJo> There are WAI-ARIA methods to provide error messages, such as a live region, to let them know they made the error without moving focus away from the field.
15:13:22 <andisnow> ack david
15:13:50 <korn> q-
15:14:24 <greggvanderheiden> q+
15:14:41 <andisnow> rrsagent, make minutes
15:14:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/31-wcag2ict-minutes.html andisnow
15:16:48 <andisnow> ack gregg
15:17:17 <korn> q+
15:19:50 <andisnow> ack korn
15:20:25 <greggvanderheiden> q+
15:20:55 <korn> q-
15:21:04 <andisnow> ack gregg
15:21:36 <Mike_P> +1
15:24:10 <MaryJo> This proposal wasn't accepted by the group.
15:24:37 <greggvanderheiden> q+
15:24:51 <korn> Software typically enables content to be programmatically determined through the use of accessibility services of software. Non-Web documents typically enable content to be programmatically determined through the use of accessibility services of the user agent
15:25:22 <andisnow> ack gregg
15:30:40 <korn> We are re-opening programmaticaly set, determined; accessibility services, principal 4 and guideline 4.1
15:30:50 <korn> Also to look at defining "platform"
15:31:08 <korn> And that work would include moving "accessibility services of sw" to be "accessibility services of the paltform"
15:31:21 <MaryJo> s/programaticaly set/programmatically set/
15:31:29 <MaryJo> s/paltform/platform/
15:32:32 <MaryJo> RESOLUTION: Re-open "programmatically determined", "programmatically set", and "accessibility services of software" (to use platform), and principal 4 and guideline 4.1
15:32:58 <MaryJo> There are six remaining action items.
15:33:01 <andisnow> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/track/actions/open
15:33:15 <MaryJo> zakim, next item
15:33:15 <Zakim> I do not see any more non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, MaryJo
15:33:23 <MaryJo> topic: Action items
15:34:14 <Zakim> -Loic
15:35:37 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
15:36:20 <MaryJo> Action 81 - Andi made a proposal to remove a phrase so this needs to be brought up in a survey.
15:36:20 <trackbot> Error finding '81'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/track/users>.
15:36:40 <andisnow> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/track/actions/81
15:40:03 <MaryJo> RESOLUTION: Accept proposal in Action 81 as written.
15:41:18 <korn> AI-81 is in https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/edits-for-michael-post-2nd-public-draft now
15:42:29 <MaryJo> For action 95 Andi made a proposal to the list that sounds reasonable, so editors will have to take a look at that and incorporate into our document. 'Task force' is also something that need to be addressed as well as part of this action.
15:46:48 <andisnow> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/glossary5/results#xq7
15:50:16 <MaryJo> The change of context in action 96 is not a change of user agents (from FF to IE), but a change of context within the user agent (e.g. FF to Adobe reader).
15:50:31 <andisnow> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:50:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Mike_Pluke, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Gregg_Vanderheiden, bruce (muted), Mary_Jo_Mueller, Janina_Sajka, Peter_Korn.a
15:55:10 <MaryJo> Is it considered a change of context if you're in a Word document and when you step to an imbedded spreadsheet the chrome of the program changes to the context of Excel for spreadsheet interaction so you can edit the spreadsheet?
15:58:12 <Zakim> -Janina_Sajka
15:58:41 <MaryJo> This would be a change of context, so would fail the SC. So the user should have to tab to the embedded element, and press enter or do some action to cause the chrome to change to allow editing.
15:58:59 <Zakim> -Mike_Pluke
16:02:24 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow_Weaver
16:02:51 <greggvanderheiden> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/complete-diff.html#content-structure-separation-programmatic
16:03:12 <MaryJo> Peter will work on a note for either 'change of context' or for 3.2.1.
16:05:48 <korn> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#structuredef
16:07:34 <korn> We're working on trying to remember Gregg's final AI.
16:07:39 <korn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/track/actions/97
16:08:09 <korn> The problem is the glossary term says:
16:08:10 <korn> structureThe way the parts of a Web page are organized in relation to each other; andThe way a collection of Web pages is organized
16:08:14 <MaryJo> s/We're working on trying to remember Gregg's final AI.//
16:08:28 <korn> And 1.3.1 says: "Information, structure, and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined or are available in text."
16:08:38 <korn> But 1.3.1 doesn't apply to "sets of web pages"
16:08:46 <MaryJo> s/structureThe/structure - The/
16:09:08 <MaryJo> s/andThe/and the'
16:09:33 <andisnow> from the 3 May minutes: PACKAGING TEXT: the WCAG2ICT was examining the definition of STRUCTURE and had trouble understanding how structure of pages related, since there was no mention of structure of pages in the success criteria themselves. The following example was put forward by one member. It this an example of what you meant? If so can you add it to Understanding WCAG 2.0 ? If not, what did it mean?
16:10:07 <korn> Andi - I'm thinking this might have been a WCAG errata
16:10:10 <andisnow> but I think it should be "structure of A COLLECTION of pages", not just the structure of pages
16:10:34 <korn> Andi - MaryJo is trying to bring you in.
16:10:57 <korn> Andi - Sicne "structure" is ONLY used in 1.3.1 and 1.3.1 doesn't speak to sets / collections of pages, bullet 2 of "structure" should be dropped.
16:11:03 <andisnow> and here is the example that is referenced in the above text: For example, a web page that shows a site map depicting the structure of the web site visually must present the information in text or markup so that the structure of the site is programmatically determinable or presented in text
16:11:04 <korn> And I think it might have been in the WCAG errata
16:11:27 <korn> Yes, but that is of the PRESENTATION of a set of pages, as presented on a single page.
16:11:35 <MaryJo> s/Andi - MaryJo is trying to bring you in.//
16:11:48 <MaryJo> s/Sicne/Since/
16:12:23 <BBailey> zakim, unmute me
16:12:23 <Zakim> bruce should no longer be muted
16:12:54 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
16:13:26 <greggvanderheiden> everyone please go to  1.  You can join the meeting FREE by using the following URL
16:13:27 <greggvanderheiden> https://www3.gotomeeting.com/join/705233502
16:13:32 <korn> Ah, OK...
16:13:57 <Zakim> -Peter_Korn.a
16:14:15 <greggvanderheiden> yes  Go To Meeting  will allow us to talk and prep for next weeks meeting so we can close these
16:14:29 <greggvanderheiden> I need to understand my Action item to work on it
16:14:29 <Zakim> -Mary_Jo_Mueller
16:15:09 <greggvanderheiden> OK  take your time
16:15:15 <greggvanderheiden> you can also call in
16:15:22 <greggvanderheiden> 1.  You can join the meeting FREE by using the following URL
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16:15:27 <greggvanderheiden> 2. Or, call in using your telephone.
16:15:28 <greggvanderheiden> Meeting ID: 705-233-502
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16:16:42 <greggvanderheiden> anyone else need a call in number
16:17:05 <andisnow> I'm coming
16:17:51 <David> ./me let's keep this irc for minutes
16:18:26 <Zakim> -bruce
16:18:27 <Zakim> WAI_(WCAG2ICT)10:00AM has ended
16:18:27 <Zakim> Attendees were David_MacDonald, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Mike_Pluke, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Alex_Li, Loic, bruce, Mary_Jo_Mueller, Janina_Sajka, Peter_Korn
16:19:00 <MaryJo> s/ I'm coming//
16:19:24 <greggvanderheiden> http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/errata/
16:22:55 <MaryJo> s/OK  take your time//
16:23:17 <MaryJo> s/you can also call in//
16:23:39 <MaryJo> s/Ah, OK...//
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16:28:16 <MaryJo> zakim, bye
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16:28:26 <MaryJo> rrsagent, make minutes
16:28:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/31-wcag2ict-minutes.html MaryJo
16:29:57 <greggvanderheiden> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/AlmostFinal/
16:30:17 <MaryJo> s/anyone else need a call in number//
16:33:03 <MaryJo> s/./me let's keep this irc for minutes//
16:38:35 <greggvanderheiden> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Antepenultimate
16:42:11 <korn> http://www.w3.org/2013/05/14-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item03
16:43:28 <MaryJo> s/1.  You can join the meeting FREE by using the following URL//
16:43:58 <MaryJo> s/Use your microphone and speakers (VoIP) - a headset is recommended.//
16:44:10 <MaryJo> s/BE SURE TO SET THE AUDIO TO    "Microphone and Speaker"   if it is set to Telephone when you sign on.//
16:44:19 <MaryJo> s/2. Or, call in using your telephone.//
16:44:29 <MaryJo> s/Meeting ID: 705-233-502//
16:44:38 <MaryJo> s/United States: +1 (786) 358-5410//
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16:44:59 <MaryJo> s/Canada: +1 (416) 900-1165//
16:45:08 <MaryJo> rrsagent, make minutes
16:45:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/31-wcag2ict-minutes.html MaryJo
16:54:27 <korn> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#structuredef
17:10:21 <korn> http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/text-equiv-all.html
17:13:31 <korn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2012/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20121213/minimize-error-reversible#minimize-error-reversible-intent-head
17:32:12 <korn> https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/to-do-before-3rd-final-public-draft
17:43:57 <korn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/track/actions/97
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