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13:55:38 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be TTML
13:55:38 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
13:55:39 <trackbot> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
13:55:39 <trackbot> Date: 30 May 2013
13:55:51 <glenn_> zakim, this is ttwg
13:55:51 <Zakim> glenn_, I see SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be ttwg".
13:56:01 <glenn_> zakim, this will be ttwg
13:56:02 <Zakim> ok, glenn_; I see SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
13:57:04 <Zakim> SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has now started
13:57:11 <Zakim> +glenn
13:59:32 <Zakim> +sean
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14:03:17 <pal> pal has joined #tt
14:04:11 <Zakim> +pal
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14:06:21 <Zakim> +[Adobe]
14:06:48 <mijordan> Zakim, mijordan is Adobe
14:06:48 <Zakim> sorry, mijordan, I do not recognize a party named 'mijordan'
14:07:00 <mijordan> Zakim, Adobe is mijordan
14:07:00 <Zakim> +mijordan; got it
14:10:25 <mike> issue-222
14:10:25 <trackbot> ISSUE-222 -- Should recommend against using (should not use) alpha values outside [0,1]. -- raised
14:10:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/222
14:12:15 <mike> sean - color syntax is considerably broken, but a differeet issue
14:13:16 <mike> issue 222 is accepted
14:15:00 <mike> glenn - rgba is ambiguous in TTML relative to CSS
14:15:30 <mike> glenn to verify is there is an open issue on rgba
14:15:32 <mike> issue-221
14:15:32 <trackbot> ISSUE-221 -- Require feature designator to be defined by (some) TTML specification. -- open
14:15:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/221
14:19:15 <mike> accept 221, add clarfying note to 6.1.3
14:19:23 <mike> issue-219
14:19:23 <trackbot> ISSUE-219 -- Region attribute must reference region element. -- open
14:19:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/219
14:21:26 <mike> accept 219
14:21:36 <mike> issue-220
14:21:36 <trackbot> ISSUE-220 -- Style attribute must reference style element. -- open
14:21:36 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/220
14:21:58 <mike> accept 220
14:22:36 <mike> sean - are there other instances of IDREF? ttm:agent has proper language
14:22:40 <mike> issue-218
14:22:40 <trackbot> ISSUE-218 -- Need to remove <duration> definition (8.3.4), not used since CR3. -- open
14:22:40 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/218
14:25:00 <mike> accept 218 - remove <duration>
14:25:03 <mike> issue-217
14:25:03 <trackbot> ISSUE-217 -- Need to specify in schemas that role attribute can take x- extension values. -- open
14:25:03 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/217
14:25:54 <mike> accept 217
14:25:59 <mike> issue-216
14:25:59 <trackbot> ISSUE-216 -- Need to specify in schemas that type attribute on ttm:name is required. -- open
14:25:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/216
14:28:41 <mike> accept 216, glenn plans to use xs:union
14:29:56 <mike> issue-215
14:29:56 <trackbot> ISSUE-215 -- Negative extent lengths should be prohibited. -- pending review
14:29:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/215
14:30:31 <mike> accept 215
14:30:37 <mike> issue-214
14:30:37 <trackbot> ISSUE-214 -- Negative padding lengths should be prohibited. -- pending review
14:30:37 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/214
14:30:56 <mike> accept 214
14:30:59 <mike> issue-213
14:30:59 <trackbot> ISSUE-213 -- Advance notice of deprecation for textOutline -- open
14:30:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/213
14:32:52 <mike> defer 213. no plan to provide advance warning in 1.0SE, will address this in 1.next
14:32:55 <mike> issue-223
14:32:55 <trackbot> ISSUE-223 -- Need to make <familyName> consistent with CSS syntax rules. -- raised
14:32:55 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/223
14:36:12 <mike> glenn - thinks this should be done in 1.0SE
14:36:22 <mike> sean - concerned about backwards compatibility
14:38:14 <mike> escape characters of specific concern
14:39:20 <mike> action sean to investigate interop issues using CSS familyName constructs
14:39:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-164 - Investigate interop issues using CSS familyName constructs [on Sean Hayes - due 2013-06-06].
14:40:19 <mike> continue 223 to next meeting
14:41:00 <Sean> http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005#Style_values
14:53:06 <mike> sean to post examples
14:53:27 <mike> continue changeProposal005 to next meeting
14:56:25 <glenn_> https://github.com/skynav/ttv
14:58:30 <mike> glenn - above link is to a TTML validator project. phase 1 - resource validation and character encoding; phase 2 - XML well-formedness; phase 3 - schema validation; phase 4 - semantic validation. phases 1-3 done. phase 4 1/2 done
14:58:56 <mike> sean - can it be used on w3.org as an online validator?
15:00:43 <Zakim> -pal
15:00:45 <Zakim> -mijordan
15:00:57 <Zakim> -mike
15:01:12 <Zakim> -sean
15:01:22 <glenn_> rrsagent, publish minutes
15:01:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/30-tt-minutes.html glenn_
15:01:41 <glenn_> trackbot, end meeting
15:01:41 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:01:41 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been glenn, sean, mike, pal, mijordan
15:01:49 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:01:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/30-tt-minutes.html trackbot
15:01:50 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:01:50 <RRSAgent> I see no action items