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14:54:03 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
14:54:05 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:54:07 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:54:08 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
14:54:08 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:54:09 <trackbot> Date: 30 May 2013
14:54:29 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013May/0035.html
14:54:34 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:54:38 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
14:54:42 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
14:54:51 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:54:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/30-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:55:07 <aphillip> Regrets: Mati, Felix (partial)
14:55:24 <aphillip> agenda+ RADAR
14:55:33 <aphillip> agenda+ Ruby Use Case Document
14:55:41 <aphillip> agenda+ Charmod-Norm
14:55:59 <aphillip> agenda+ Line Wrapping Rules in Traditional Chinese
14:56:02 <aphillip> agenda?
15:00:17 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
15:00:17 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:00:18 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has now started
15:00:20 <Zakim> +Richard
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15:00:50 <Zakim> +??P6
15:01:17 <Zakim> +aphillip
15:01:25 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
15:01:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see Richard, fsasaki, aphillip
15:01:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see David, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, fsasaki, r12a, jjs, fantasai, trackbot
15:01:55 <r12a> jjs ?
15:02:11 <Zakim> +Aharon
15:02:13 <jjs> I don't think I should be here!
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15:02:57 <jjs> Shall I part?
15:03:09 <r12a> yes, thank you
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15:04:09 <aphillip> zakim, DavidClarke is DavidC
15:04:09 <Zakim> sorry, aphillip, I do not recognize a party named 'DavidClarke'
15:05:18 <DavidClarke> zakim, DavidC is DavidClarke
15:05:21 <Zakim> +DavidClarke; got it
15:05:44 <aphillip> topic: Agenda
15:05:49 <aphillip> agenda?
15:06:10 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
15:06:25 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:07:40 <aphillip> close action-196
15:07:40 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-196 Request feedback on ruby use cases with an eye towards publishing updated version in two weeks.
15:09:01 <aphillip> ACTION-228: waiting on richard for response (richard has a response that Aharon hasn't seen yet)
15:09:01 <trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-228 File bug on 5.1 and review text, pinging robin about how best to file.
15:09:14 <aphillip> agenda+ HTML Bidi
15:09:32 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
15:10:26 <aphillip> richard: next tuesday is the ebooks conference in Tokyo
15:10:32 <aphillip> ... norbert will be there
15:10:37 <aphillip> ... will let you all know about report
15:10:52 <aphillip> agenda?
15:11:00 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:11:00 <Zakim> agendum 1. "RADAR" taken up [from aphillip]
15:12:06 <aphillip> agenda?
15:12:19 <Zakim> -DavidClarke
15:12:25 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 5
15:12:26 <Zakim> agendum 5. "HTML Bidi" taken up [from aphillip]
15:12:49 <Zakim> +DavidClarke
15:13:12 <aphillip> richard: aharon sent me changes and I think they look fine
15:13:21 <aphillip> ... spoke to robin this afternoon
15:13:31 <aphillip> ... when we want to raise bug on html
15:13:41 <aphillip> ... there is a pull down for "product" or "component"
15:13:58 <aphillip> ... HTML5-spec, etc.
15:14:07 <aphillip> ... just raise against HTML5-spec component
15:14:14 <aphillip> ... they clone as needed
15:14:34 <aphillip> richard: also asked if whatwg should get bugs too
15:14:49 <aphillip> ... in some cases HTML also clones bugs
15:15:09 <aphillip> ... but raise under HTML5 spec and then clone to whatwg list
15:15:54 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:15:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/30-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:16:10 <aphillip> richard: asked robin: raise first or ask for opinion first?
15:16:19 <aphillip> ... doesn't care, but maybe just ping robin first
15:16:49 <aphillip> aharon: sunday or monday
15:17:05 <aphillip> ... say I were to file now (hypothetical)
15:17:14 <aphillip> ... should I be brief and just pointer to wiki page
15:17:38 <aphillip> richard: think that's good
15:17:48 <aphillip> addison: agree: we have all our text in one place
15:17:57 <aphillip> richard: don't want to make a "big meal" in the bug
15:18:11 <aphillip> aharon: say we want 5.1 or 5.0 or what?
15:18:21 <aphillip> richard: think ambiguous. hope we change 5.0
15:18:42 <aphillip> aharon: want to ensure 5.1
15:18:50 <aphillip> ... on fast track
15:19:00 <aphillip> ... 5.0 needs two impls
15:19:10 <aphillip> richard: if we can get two impls, it'll get into 5.0
15:19:35 <aphillip> aharon: will send to robin cc:richard
15:20:14 <aphillip> richard: just to member list?
15:20:22 <aphillip> addison: member-i18n-core@
15:20:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/30-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:20:48 <aphillip> agenda?
15:21:10 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 2
15:21:10 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Ruby Use Case Document" taken up [from aphillip]
15:21:19 <aphillip> All: thanks to Aharon!!
15:21:40 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/docs/ruby/
15:22:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/30-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:22:12 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/docs/ruby/#app-c
15:23:38 <aphillip> richard: didn't bring in the other document, just ref in appendix a
15:23:54 <aphillip> richard: question: what next?
15:24:32 <aphillip> ... another review round or ?
15:25:24 <aphillip> addison: last call?
15:26:18 <aphillip> action: addison: send last call about ruby use cases to winter@ with target to publish as Note in two weeks time
15:26:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-230 - Send last call about ruby use cases to winter@ with target to publish as Note in two weeks time [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-06-06].
15:26:52 <aphillip> richard: asked robin about extension spec status, but no response yet
15:27:15 <aphillip> agenda?
15:27:47 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 3
15:27:47 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Charmod-Norm" taken up [from aphillip]
15:31:27 <aphillip> agenda?
15:31:59 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 4
15:31:59 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Line Wrapping Rules in Traditional Chinese" taken up [from aphillip]
15:32:22 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2013AprJun/0069.html
15:32:38 <aphillip> JcK: asked a few folks, but haven't heard back yet
15:36:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/30-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:41:22 <aphillip> action: richard: talk to bobby tung about TC-Layout req idea and report back
15:41:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-231 - Talk to bobby tung about TC-Layout req idea and report back [on Richard Ishida - due 2013-06-06].
15:41:36 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
15:42:21 <aphillip> probable regrets next week: richard, JcK
15:43:36 <aphillip> Topic: ITS 2.0
15:43:44 <aphillip> felix: want to bring up
15:43:57 <aphillip> ... status section says focused on normative section for last call
15:44:09 <aphillip> ... this group provided comments on non-normative section and keeping it
15:44:21 <aphillip> ... will send a pointer out, as we are doing sone restructring
15:44:28 <aphillip> ... shouldn't change your comments
15:44:38 <aphillip> ... but the text will move around (first two sections will be different)
15:45:05 <Zakim> -JcK
15:45:06 <Zakim> -fsasaki
15:45:08 <Zakim> -aphillip
15:45:10 <Zakim> -DavidClarke
15:45:12 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
15:45:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/30-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:45:40 <Zakim> -Aharon
16:35:01 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Richard, in I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM
16:35:03 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has ended
16:35:03 <Zakim> Attendees were Richard, fsasaki, aphillip, Aharon, JcK, DavidClarke
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