IRC log of ua on 2013-05-16

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-ua-irc
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be WAI_UAWG
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_UAWG()1:00PM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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Meeting: User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 16 May 2013
16:56:04 [kford]
Agenda+ Level A Existing Implementations
16:56:06 [kford]
agenda+ Testing sub-group/writing tests
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agenda+ scheduling a Face to Face
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agenda+ Change to TPAC dates now at 11-15 November in China
17:00:39 [jeanne]
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WAI_UAWG()1:00PM has now started
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+Jeanne
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+Greg_Lowney
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+Jim_Allan
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+Kim_Patch
17:10:42 [jeanne]
zakim, who is here?
17:10:42 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Jeanne, Greg_Lowney, Jim_Allan, Kim_Patch
17:10:43 [Zakim]
On IRC I see KimPatch, allanj, Greg, jeanne, Zakim, RRSAgent, kford, trackbot
17:11:17 [Zakim]
+ +1.215.431.aaaa
17:12:08 [jeanne]
zakim, aaaa is Eric
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+Eric; got it
17:12:58 [allanj_]
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regrets: Jan
17:13:19 [jeanne]
Topic: Definition of Levels
17:13:24 [jeanne]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2013AprJun/0052.html
17:13:57 [allanj]
scribe: allanj
17:14:09 [allanj]
chair: jimAllan, kellyFord
17:16:25 [Zakim]
+[Microsoft]
17:17:02 [allanj]
zakim, +[Microsoft] is really kford
17:17:02 [Zakim]
sorry, allanj, I do not recognize a party named '+[Microsoft]'
17:17:05 [jeanne]
*difficulty of implementation from deterministic to inferential
17:17:05 [jeanne]
* scope from minor change to creation of a new sub-system
17:17:11 [allanj]
zakim, [Microsoft] is really kford
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+kford; got it
17:20:07 [Greg]
Personally, I doubt that we've made all SC that are "relatively minor for developers to implement" Level A, as the current definitions say they would (generally) be.
17:22:13 [Greg]
I don't think they're entirely technically accurate, but I can live with them.
17:22:17 [allanj]
all working on live editing the document.
17:22:44 [jeanne]
action: jeanne to fix the construction of (a) and (b) to make A like AA and AAA. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2013AprJun/0052.html
17:22:44 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-830 - fix the construction of (a) and (b) to make A like AA and AAA. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2013AprJun/0052.html [on Jeanne F Spellman - due 2013-05-23].
17:23:26 [Zakim]
+ +1.215.943.aabb
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-Eric
17:23:48 [jeanne]
zakim, aabb is Eric
17:23:48 [Zakim]
+Eric; got it
17:24:23 [allanj]
Resolved: Accept the edited version of the Definition of Levels http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2013AprJun/0052.html
17:24:32 [allanj]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-ua-minutes.html allanj
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rrsagent, set logs public
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Resolution: Accept the edited version of the Definition of Levels http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2013AprJun/0052.html
17:25:57 [allanj]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-ua-minutes.html allanj
17:28:23 [allanj]
Resolution: Group agrees to publish Heart Beat Working Draft
17:28:45 [allanj]
Agenda+ Level A Existing Implementations
17:28:47 [allanj]
agenda+ Testing sub-group/writing tests
17:28:48 [allanj]
agenda+ scheduling a Face to Face
17:28:50 [allanj]
agenda+ Change to TPAC dates now at 11-15 November in China
17:29:11 [allanj]
agenda?
17:29:39 [allanj]
zakim, drop item 5
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agendum 5, Level A Existing Implementations, dropped
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zakim, drop item 6
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agendum 6, Testing sub-group/writing tests, dropped
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zakim, drop item 7
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agendum 7, scheduling a Face to Face, dropped
17:29:50 [allanj]
zakim, drop item 8
17:29:50 [Zakim]
agendum 8, Change to TPAC dates now at 11-15 November in China, dropped
17:30:30 [allanj]
zakim, open item 4
17:30:30 [Zakim]
agendum 4. "Change to TPAC dates now at 11-15 November in China" taken up [from kford]
17:31:02 [allanj]
zakim, close item 4
17:31:02 [Zakim]
agendum 4, Change to TPAC dates now at 11-15 November in China, closed
17:31:03 [Zakim]
I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:31:03 [Zakim]
1. Level A Existing Implementations [from kford]
17:31:42 [allanj]
zakim, open item 3
17:31:42 [Zakim]
agendum 3. "scheduling a Face to Face" taken up [from kford]
17:32:26 [Jan]
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ja: offers Austin
17:32:45 [Jan]
zakim, code?
17:32:45 [Zakim]
the conference code is 82941 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Jan
17:33:01 [allanj]
kf: waiting on confirmation for using Microsoft
17:34:00 [Zakim]
+[IPcaller]
17:34:16 [Jan]
zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan
17:34:16 [Zakim]
+Jan; got it
17:34:42 [jeanne]
zakim, who is here?
17:34:42 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Jeanne, Greg_Lowney, Jim_Allan, Kim_Patch, kford, Eric, Jan
17:34:45 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Jan, Eric_Hansen, allanj, KimPatch, Greg, jeanne, Zakim, RRSAgent, kford, trackbot
17:37:11 [allanj]
jan: could use OCAD
17:39:45 [allanj]
1 request for not hot location
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group settled on Seattle
17:43:43 [allanj]
Resolution: F2F in Seattle July 23-25 (3 days)
17:47:05 [allanj]
zakim, close item 3
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agendum 3, scheduling a Face to Face, closed
17:47:06 [Zakim]
I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:47:06 [Zakim]
1. Level A Existing Implementations [from kford]
17:50:05 [allanj]
zakim, open item 1
17:50:05 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Level A Existing Implementations" taken up [from kford]
17:50:20 [allanj]
https://docs.google.com/a/tsbvi.edu/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiiGLIaAlHSKdHNrcGNacUp2MHdXQW9sUmpBQ21Lenc
17:53:02 [allanj]
thanks to Jan and Greg for updating
17:58:14 [Eric_Hansen]
Eric has to drop off now.
17:58:22 [Zakim]
-Eric
18:01:42 [Zakim]
-Jan
18:09:15 [jeanne]
http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-IMPLEMENTING-UAAG20-20121004/#alternative-content-list
18:10:26 [Greg]
Eventually add to list of alternative content: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG-access/#Equivalent
18:21:24 [Zakim]
-Greg_Lowney
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+Greg_Lowney
18:23:42 [Zakim]
-kford
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+[Microsoft]
18:25:14 [allanj]
live editing the spreadsheet
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-[Microsoft]
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-Kim_Patch
18:33:28 [Zakim]
-Jeanne
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-Greg_Lowney
18:34:26 [allanj]
rrsagent, make minutes
18:34:26 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-ua-minutes.html allanj
18:34:56 [allanj]
zakim, please part
18:34:56 [Zakim]
leaving. As of this point the attendees were Jeanne, Greg_Lowney, Jim_Allan, Kim_Patch, +1.215.431.aaaa, Eric, kford, +1.215.943.aabb, Jan, [Microsoft]
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rrsagent, make minutes
18:35:04 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-ua-minutes.html allanj
18:35:56 [allanj]
regrets+ Jan (partial)
18:36:00 [allanj]
rrsagent, make minutes
18:36:00 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-ua-minutes.html allanj
18:36:24 [allanj]
rrsagent, please part
18:36:24 [RRSAgent]
I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-ua-actions.rdf :
18:36:24 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: jeanne to fix the construction of (a) and (b) to make A like AA and AAA. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2013AprJun/0052.html [1]
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