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<trackbot> Date: 10 May 2013
<scribe> scribe:Andi_Snow-Weaver
<scribe> scribenick: andisnow
<Mike_P> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/new_conformance/results
Editorial change suggested: Change "Since and external AT is able to extract and present that information…" to "Where AT is able to extract and present that information…"
RESOLUTION: Accept proposal as amended with editorial change: Change "Since an external AT is able to extract and present that information…" to "Where AT is able to extract and present that information…"
<Mike_P> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/may102013confterms/results#xq5
Proposal to include some discussion in chapter 5 about WCAG conformance without implying that anything can conform to WCAG2ICT
Here is the URL for the top of the survey:
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/may102013confterms/results
<Kiran_Kaja> +1
Not clear why we need to add discussion of WCAG conformance principles. We could simply link to them.
need an addition to the Introduction, nothing in this document changes the way WCAG applies to a web page or application
does WCAG say something about the case where, for example, you automatically meet SC 1.4.2 if you don't have any audio that automatically plays? If so, we should just refer to it rather than repeat it.
if we include the "understanding conformance" section and say this applies as written, then we are stating what conformance to WCAG2ICT means - but we can't do that because WCAG2ICT is "informative", not "normative"
not clear why we are including these principles if we don't say how they apply or might be different in the non-web ICT context
if we don't put anything in our document, reader won't know that the SC are dependent on a certain approach to conformance
suggestion that we describe some of the challenges you need to be aware of similar to what we did for "closed functionality"
<Mike_P> +1
<Mike_P> +1
RESOLUTION: Accept only proposal #5 "Introduction" and "Excluded from Scope" portions as written. Re-work Chapter 5 text.
Should hold off on taking these portions to WCAG until we have consensus on text for Chapter 5
often alternate versions are created to target specific disabilities - one for those who can't see, one for those who can't hear, etc.
but in WCAG, you have to have at least one version that conforms
<greggvanderheiden> +1
could add a note that explains what "conforming alternate version" means
suggestion incorporating Peter's comments: Note 1: The alternative can be provided directly in the non-web document or software – or provided in an alternate version that meets the success criteria.
<greggvanderheiden> +1
RESOLUTION: Accept proposal as modified. Note 1 to read: Note 1: The alternative can be provided directly in the non-web document or software – or provided in an alternate version that meets the success criteria.
<korn> +1
<greggvanderheiden> I am happy either way.
<greggvanderheiden> just thought consistency was better.
<Mike_P> "The guidance in this document does not use the term conforming alternate version."
RESOLUTION: Accept proposal as amended 'The guidance in this document does not use the term "conforming alternate version".'
This applies directly as written replacing "the page" with "the non-web document or software". With this substitution, it would read "the success criterion does not evaluate to 'false' when applied to THE NON-WEB DOCUMENT OR SOFTWARE"
leave "satisfies a success criterion" open until we close on Chapter 5 text
RESOLUTION: Accept proposal by Gregg in the survey at https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/may102013confterms/results#xq3
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