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15:59:24 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
15:59:24 <trackbot> Date: 09 May 2013
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15:59:47 <Zakim> +Sam
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16:01:42 <janina> zakim, ??P6 is me
16:01:42 <Zakim> +janina; got it
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16:04:13 <krisk> * I can scribe - let me pull up the agenda
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16:06:37 <krisk> Chair: rubys
16:06:37 <Zakim> -hober
16:06:41 <krisk> scribe: krisk
16:06:58 <krisk> TOPIC: 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, May 9
16:07:00 <Zakim> +[Apple]
16:07:05 <hober> Zakim, Apple is me
16:07:05 <Zakim> +hober; got it
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16:07:09 <krisk> ACTION-226: Make sure that the organizational structure of github
16:07:10 <trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-226 Make sure that the organizational structure of github test suite is well documented.
16:07:15 <rubys> ACTION-226?
16:07:15 <trackbot> ACTION-226 -- Kris Krueger to make sure that the organizational structure of github test suite is well documented -- due 2013-04-30 -- OPEN
16:07:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/226
16:07:19 <Zakim> +Plh
16:07:33 <krisk> I have not made any progress but will have the wiki updated by next week
16:07:35 <rubys> ACTION-226 due next week
16:07:35 <trackbot> Set ACTION-226 Make sure that the organizational structure of github test suite is well documented due date to next week.
16:07:46 <krisk> TOPIC: New Issues This Week:
16:07:55 <krisk> rubys: none
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16:08:25 <krisk> rubys: let's talk about the f2f web performance at the enfo (other business)
16:08:31 <krisk> TOPIC: Items Closing This Week
16:08:35 <krisk> rubys: none
16:08:42 <krisk> TOPIC: Items Closing Next Week
16:09:09 <Zakim> +Tantek
16:09:17 <krisk> rubys: actually this should be 'closing' this week
16:09:19 <krisk> CfC: remove Microdata from HTML 5.0, incorporate Microdata into 5.1
16:09:20 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0000.html
16:10:01 <krisk> tantek: can we discuss the microdata moves to 5.1?
16:10:04 <krisk> rubys: yes
16:10:39 <krisk> rubys: we are moving all of microdata from the htm5.0 spec and into 5.1
16:11:04 <krisk> tantek: I'd like to promote the use of extension specs
16:11:29 <krisk> tantek: Maybe this could be done with microdata?
16:12:16 <krisk> rubys: if the whatwg makes this a seperate spec then this could be done, though if not we would need a editor to signup to do this work
16:13:25 <krisk> rubys: right now we are just focused on 5.0 and don't want to make a rash move to remove it completely
16:14:00 <krisk> tantek: Having this in 5.1 seems to go against our modulatity principals
16:14:44 <krisk> rubys: tantek can you send a mail to the list to make sure the group has consensus?
16:14:48 <krisk> tantek: sure
16:15:41 <Zakim> +glenn
16:15:56 <krisk> rubys: I don't think you are missing anything other then the ask for a editor to sign up for the work.
16:16:56 <krisk> rubys: please bring this up on the list and we can discuss what we want to do beyond removing from HTML5.0
16:17:36 <krisk> rubys: any other comments other than bring this up on the list?
16:17:40 <glenn> :)
16:17:43 <tantek> Thanks Sam and Daniel for the discussion
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16:17:50 <krisk> TOPIC: Decisions this week
16:17:57 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0030.html
16:18:17 <rubys> http://www.w3.org/QA/2013/05/perspectives_on_encrypted_medi.html
16:18:40 <tantek> Zakim, mute tantek
16:18:40 <Zakim> Tantek should now be muted
16:18:47 <krisk> rubys: one decision has occured to allow EME to proceed as a First Public Working draft
16:19:35 <krisk> glenn: If a format objection occurs, will this reverse the FPWD?
16:19:50 <rubys> s/format/formal/
16:20:07 <Zakim> -Tantek
16:20:26 <krisk> plh: The process would (object) doesn't apply until last call, in this instance the Director actually looked earlier in the process
16:20:30 <Zakim> +Tantek
16:20:42 <krisk> glenn: I am happy to see things move forward
16:20:54 <krisk> TOPIC: Task Force Reports
16:20:56 <tantek> Zakim, Tantek is tantek
16:20:56 <Zakim> +tantek; got it
16:21:05 <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Testing Task Force
16:21:11 <plh> s/The process would (object) doesn't apply until last call/The process doesn't require the Director to address Formal Objections prior to the move out of Last Call/
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16:21:31 <krisk> krisk: I don't have much to report here - I was not able to make the meeting this week
16:21:43 <plh> s/in this instance the Director actually looked earlier in the process/there has been instances where the Director did however, such as microdata for example
16:21:56 <krisk> krisk: Though I should have more to report next time
16:22:15 <Zakim> -tantek
16:22:21 <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Accessibility Task Force
16:22:44 <Zakim> +tantek
16:22:47 <krisk> Group has continued to meet
16:23:03 <krisk> The group has focused on what areas of the spec need testing
16:23:21 <janina> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21985
16:24:08 <krisk> We are working on getting bugs that impact 5.0 taken care of..
16:24:42 <krisk> We are working on the extension specs such and have these ready in June
16:25:33 <Zakim> -tantek
16:25:33 <krisk> The group is working on creating proposal for 'transcript' - ISSUE 194
16:25:51 <Zakim> +tantek
16:25:58 <krisk> rubys: any other questions or comments for Janina?
16:26:12 <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Media Task Force
16:26:32 <krisk> rubys: anyone here to provide status?
16:26:44 <krisk> TOPIC: Other Business
16:26:52 <krisk> Proposal: stop work on "HTML: The Markup Language" and "HTML5:
16:26:55 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0016.html
16:27:36 <krisk> rubys: please take a look at the list, no specific date
16:28:05 <krisk> daniel: It would be good to have this for authors
16:28:47 <krisk> rubys: The belief is that this is being addressed in another better mechanism vs the xlst/xml transforms
16:29:19 <krisk> daniel: This seems like a key deliverable for authors and I'd like to see this not be dropped
16:29:30 <krisk> ...I'll look on the list for more information
16:29:51 <krisk> rubys: please do
16:30:18 <krisk> janina: It seems it's more about how we do this rather than not doing this work
16:30:22 <krisk> rubys: correct
16:30:36 <krisk> daniel: I'll catch up on this via the list
16:31:06 <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Web Performance and Error Handling from F2F
16:32:30 <krisk> The WP WG is looking to have a futrue proof errors beyond networking (DNS, TCPIP, etc) such that it covers css, html, javascript errors
16:33:09 <krisk> The upshot is that the WP WG should be able to accomidate this for these newer classes
16:33:37 <krisk> daniel has an action item to go look for specific examples where this could be used in the HTML spec
16:33:48 <krisk> rubys: and other business to discuss?
16:34:00 <krisk> rubys: Scribe for next meeting?
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16:34:25 <krisk> rubys: Adjournment
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