IRC log of wai-wcag on 2013-04-30

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Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG()11:00AM already started
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Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 30 April 2013
14:57:21 [Ryladog]
Michael - sorry I cannot minute today - I will be working through this call
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+[Oracle]
14:59:25 [korn]
Zakim, Oracle has Peter_Korn
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+Peter_Korn; got it
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+[IPcaller]
14:59:46 [Joshue108]
zakim, [IPcaller] is Joshue
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+Joshue; got it
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+Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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+[Microsoft]
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+[IPcaller]
15:02:29 [Loretta]
zakim, [IPCaller] is Loretta
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+Loretta; got it
15:02:37 [Joshue108]
zaki, agenda?
15:02:41 [Joshue108]
zakim, agenda?
15:02:41 [Zakim]
I see nothing on the agenda
15:03:03 [Joshue108]
agenda +
15:03:04 [Joshue108]
Miscellaneous WCAG2ICT Issues for 30 April 2013: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130430WCAG2ICT/
15:03:15 [Joshue108]
agenda + Miscellaneous Issues for 30 April 2013: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130430Misc/
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+Cooper
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+David_MacDonald
15:03:49 [Loretta]
I have have to drop off the call at some point; I'm expecting home maintenance people.
15:04:11 [MichaelC]
zakim, aaaa is Gregg_Vanderheiden
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+Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
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+Gregg_Vanderheiden.a
15:05:21 [MichaelC]
zakim, Gregg_Vanderheiden is Katie_Haritos-Shea
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+Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it
15:05:32 [MichaelC]
zakim, Microsoft is Cherie_Eckholm
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+Cherie_Eckholm; got it
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zakim, Gregg is Gregg_Vanderheiden
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+Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
15:05:50 [David]
scribe: David
15:05:59 [Joshue108]
zakim, take up item 1
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agendum 1. "Miscellaneous Issues for 30 April 2013: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130430Misc/" taken up [from Joshue108]
15:07:04 [MichaelC]
topic: Miscellaneous WCAG2ICT Issues for 30 April 2013: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130430WCAG2ICT/
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Topic: Comment LC-2754 for Web Content Accessibility
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+Marc_Johlic
15:09:31 [Joshue108]
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130430WCAG2ICT/results#x2747
15:11:18 [David]
RESOLUTION: accept Change "the content" to "non-web documents and software" in 2.2.1 in WCAG2ICT
15:11:35 [greggvanderheiden]
2.2.1, Input error, Set of web pages, Web Page, same functionality, excluded from Scope,
15:12:21 [David]
RESOLUTION: Accepted as proposed, Input error, Set of web pages, Web Page, same functionality, excluded from Scope,
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q+
15:13:17 [David]
TOPIC: Applying Command-line interfaces to WCAG
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https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/cross-cutting-issues-and-notes/command-line-interfaces
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q+
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15:19:41 [AWK]
Maybe worth noting that the absence of structure in a CLI isn't a problem for WCAG since the CLI isn't failing to convey structure, it just lacks it for everyone.
15:21:12 [AWK]
ah,,, right. more complex than I was thinking.
15:23:05 [korn]
q-
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ack me
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ack gv
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q+
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ack g
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ack Lor
15:27:46 [David]
WCAG WG would like more time to review revisions to Command line interfaces, renamed as terminal text, will review next meeting
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q+
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q+
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+James_Nurthen
15:29:59 [jamesn]
zakim, who is on the call?
15:29:59 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Katie_Haritos-Shea, [Oracle], Joshue, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Cherie_Eckholm, Loretta, Cooper, David_MacDonald, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Marc_Johlic, James_Nurthen
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[Oracle] has Peter_Korn
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agenda?
15:31:27 [Loretta]
q+
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ack korn
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/30-wai-wcag-minutes.html jamesn
15:35:47 [korn]
q-
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ack David
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ack Loretta
15:39:38 [David]
ACTION: David to ask Janina, to join a call and discuss Terminal accessibility
15:39:38 [trackbot]
'David' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., dmacdona, dtodd2).
15:39:47 [David]
q+
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q+
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ack David
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ack Korn
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ack me
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q+
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ack korn
15:45:59 [AWK]
Subtle, Peter. :)
15:49:16 [Joshue108]
q+
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ack me
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q+
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15:55:16 [MichaelC]
q+
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ack me
15:59:30 [David]
ACTION: Peter to work with Loretta and Gregg on restructuring text terminal proposal
15:59:31 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-195 - Work with Loretta and Gregg on restructuring text terminal proposal [on Peter Korn - due 2013-05-07].
15:59:56 [Joshue108]
Topic: WCAG2ICT Glossary change: AAA-only terms
16:00:01 [David]
Leave open for further discussion
16:00:11 [MichaelC]
(this is for the previous topic)
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q+
16:00:36 [Joshue108]
ack korn
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+[IPcaller]
16:03:45 [AWK]
loretta's change is nice and clear and succinct
16:04:58 [korn]
+1 AWK for this specific one.
16:07:12 [MichaelC]
zakim, ipcaller is Adam_Solomon
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+Adam_Solomon; got it
16:07:17 [David]
RESOLUTION: accept as amended WCAG2ICT Glossary change: AAA-only terms send back to task force with Loretta's review
16:07:50 [adam_solomon]
ill get it right next week
16:08:49 [Joshue108]
TOPIC: WCAG2ICT glossary change to assistive technology definition
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TOPIC: WCAG2ICT glossary change to same functionality
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TOPIC: WCAG2ICT change to introduction
16:12:13 [David]
RESOLUTION: Accept as amended WCAG2ICT glossary change to assistive technology definition
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q+
16:13:51 [David]
TOPIC: WCAG2ICT change to introduction
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-Adam_Solomon
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q+
16:17:29 [Loretta]
q+
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ack gv
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q+
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ack g
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+tobie
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ack Loretta
16:22:10 [AWK]
* yes
16:22:20 [adam_solomon]
i am back on
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-Cherie_Eckholm
16:22:29 [David]
q-
16:23:00 [jamesn]
zakim, who is on the call?
16:23:00 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Katie_Haritos-Shea, [Oracle], Joshue, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Loretta, Cooper, David_MacDonald, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Marc_Johlic, James_Nurthen, tobie
16:23:03 [Zakim]
[Oracle] has Peter_Korn
16:23:29 [adam_solomon]
looks that way
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TOPIC: WCAG2ICT change Comments on Conformance
16:25:02 [adam_solomon]
skype each time
16:25:09 [David]
ACTION: To rewrite WCAG2ICT change to introduction in the 3rd person removing some of the detail about what the committee considered before consensus, no references to task force
16:25:09 [trackbot]
Error finding 'To'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/users>.
16:25:44 [David]
s/To/Peter to
16:27:08 [AWK]
Propose that we spend a few minutes talking about charter in the final minutes here. not much time, just starting.
16:27:17 [David]
ACTION: Peter to rewrite WCAG2ICT change to introduction in the 3rd person removing some of the detail about what the committee considered before consensus, no references to task force
16:27:17 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-196 - Rewrite WCAG2ICT change to introduction in the 3rd person removing some of the detail about what the committee considered before consensus, no references to task force [on Peter Korn - due 2013-05-07].
16:30:51 [Zakim]
-James_Nurthen
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q+
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q-
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-Adam_Solomon
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-Marc_Johlic
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-Katie_Haritos-Shea
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-Loretta
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-David_MacDonald
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-[Oracle]
16:33:32 [David]
zakim, bye
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leaving. As of this point the attendees were +1.703.861.aaaa, Peter_Korn, Joshue, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Loretta, Cooper, David_MacDonald, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Cherie_Eckholm,
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... Gregg_Vanderheiden, Marc_Johlic, James_Nurthen, Adam_Solomon
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rrsagent, make log public
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/30-wai-wcag-minutes.html David
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