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14:57:02 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
14:57:02 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM scheduled to start 57 minutes ago
14:57:03 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:57:03 <trackbot> Date: 21 March 2013
14:57:19 <janina> zakim, who's here?
14:57:19 <Zakim> I notice WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has restarted
14:57:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P18
14:57:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, janina, stommepoes, davidb, Steve, darobin, IanPouncey, chaals, MichaelC, hober, Zakim, trackbot
14:57:33 <janina> zakim, ??P18 is Janina
14:57:33 <Zakim> +Janina; got it
14:57:45 <Steve> very late regrets I have a conflciting call with client apologies
14:58:31 <Steve> I will be available on skype if you need me for anything
14:58:53 <Steve> available on IRC I mean...
15:00:16 <Zakim> + +aaaa
15:00:24 <Zakim> +??P9
15:00:27 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P9 is Michael_Cooper
15:00:27 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper; got it
15:00:31 <chaals> zakim, aaaa is chaals
15:00:32 <Zakim> +chaals; got it
15:00:42 <chaals> zakim, who is here?
15:00:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see Janina, chaals, Michael_Cooper
15:00:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, janina, stommepoes, davidb, Steve, darobin, IanPouncey, chaals, MichaelC, hober, Zakim, trackbot
15:01:18 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Mar/0068.html
15:01:30 <janina> Meeting: HTML Accessibility TF
15:01:30 <janina> Chair: Chaals
15:01:30 <janina> agenda+ identify scribe
15:01:30 <janina> agenda+ outstanding action items
15:01:30 <janina> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
15:01:32 <janina> agenda+ wiki upkeep http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Main_Page
15:01:35 <janina> agenda+ longdesc next steps
15:01:37 <janina> agenda+ face to face agenda items?
15:01:40 <janina> agenda+ translateable attributes in HTML http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Mar/0051.html
15:01:43 <janina> agenda+ subteam reports
15:01:51 <janina>  agenda?
15:02:14 <Zakim> +John_Foliot
15:02:32 <chaals> zakim, drop agendum 1
15:02:32 <Zakim> agendum 1, Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List, dropped
15:02:44 <chaals> zakim, drop agendum 2
15:02:44 <Zakim> agendum 2, Longdesc Update http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Feb/0093.html, dropped
15:02:47 <Zakim> +Judy
15:02:50 <chaals> zakim, drop agendum 3
15:02:50 <Zakim> agendum 3, Upcoming HTML & PF F2F http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda, dropped
15:02:59 <chaals> zakim, drop agendum 10
15:02:59 <Zakim> agendum 10, be done, dropped
15:03:03 <Judy> Judy has joined #html-a11y
15:03:05 <chaals> zakim, drop agendum 9
15:03:05 <Zakim> agendum 9, Identify Scribe for the next TF teleconference http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List, dropped
15:03:12 <chaals> zakim, drop agendum 8
15:03:12 <Zakim> agendum 8, Other Business, dropped
15:03:18 <chaals> zakim, drop agendum 7
15:03:18 <Zakim> agendum 7, Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open, dropped
15:03:19 <janina> scribe: janina
15:03:22 <chaals> zakim, drop agendum 6
15:03:22 <Zakim> agendum 6, Subteam Reports: Bug Triage; AAPI Mapping;, dropped
15:03:27 <chaals> zakim, drop agendum 5
15:03:27 <Zakim> agendum 5, Media Bugs (Continued) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Nov/0040.html, dropped
15:03:32 <chaals> zakim, drop agendum 4
15:03:32 <Zakim> agendum 4, Alt in the HTML Spec: Rewriting Sec.4.8.1.1, dropped
15:03:37 <chaals> zakim, next item
15:03:38 <Zakim> agendum 11. "identify scribe" taken up [from janina]
15:03:47 <chaals> zakim, next item
15:03:47 <Zakim> agendum 11 was just opened, chaals
15:03:57 <chaals> zakim, take up next item
15:03:57 <Zakim> agendum 11 was just opened, chaals
15:04:02 <janina> OK, I'm scribing, Zajkim!
15:04:09 <janina> zakim, next item
15:04:09 <Zakim> agendum 11 was just opened, janina
15:04:09 <chaals> scribeNick: Janina
15:04:15 <janina> zakim, close item 11
15:04:15 <Zakim> agendum 11, identify scribe, closed
15:04:15 <chaals> zakim, next item
15:04:16 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:04:16 <Zakim> 12. outstanding action items [from janina]
15:04:16 <Zakim> agendum 12. "outstanding action items" taken up [from janina]
15:04:21 <janina> zakim, next item
15:04:21 <Zakim> agendum 12 was just opened, janina
15:04:45 <Zakim> + +1.415.285.aabb
15:04:55 <hober> Zakim, aabb is ne
15:04:55 <Zakim> +ne; got it
15:05:17 <hober> Zakim, ne is hober
15:05:17 <Zakim> +hober; got it
15:05:41 <chaals> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/22
15:06:02 <chaals> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/136
15:06:15 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
15:06:46 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:06:49 <chaals> RESOLUTION: Close ACTION-22 as outdated
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15:08:19 <chaals> RESOLUTION: ACTION-136 due in two weeks
15:08:39 <chaals> zakim, [ipcaller is leonie
15:08:39 <Zakim> +leonie; got it
15:08:42 <LJWatson> zakim, [ipcaller}
15:08:42 <Zakim> I don't understand '[ipcaller}', LJWatson
15:08:52 <LJWatson> zakim, [ipcaller] is LJWatson
15:08:52 <Zakim> sorry, LJWatson, I do not recognize a party named '[ipcaller]'
15:09:16 <chaals> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/89
15:09:35 <chaals> RESOLUTION: ACTION-89 due in 4 weeks
15:10:06 <chaals> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/142
15:10:10 <chaals> CS: THink it is done
15:10:16 <chaals> CMN: If it isn't, I will chase it.
15:10:26 <chaals> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/144
15:10:43 <chaals> RESOLUTION: ACTION-144 due in 1 week
15:11:10 <chaals> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/148
15:11:40 <chaals> JF: There were 2 proposals about where to place a transcript element. THought this might go to survey but then got plan-2014. Remains open.
15:12:06 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
15:12:09 <chaals> RESOLUTION: ACTION-148 due in 1 week
15:12:27 <chaals> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/151
15:12:38 <chaals> RESOLUTION: ACTION-148 due in 2 weeks
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15:13:27 <chaals> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/154
15:13:44 <chaals> RESOLUTION: ACTION-154 due in 2 weeks
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15:14:25 <chaals> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/155
15:14:32 <janina> JF will send a second note
15:14:36 <chaals> JF: Sent reminder, should follow up since nothing seems to have happened.
15:14:49 <chaals> RESOLUTION: ACTION-155 due in 1 week
15:14:54 <chaals> zakim, next item
15:14:54 <Zakim> agendum 13. "wiki upkeep http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Main_Page" taken up [from janina]
15:15:13 <janina> cmn: Wiki has grown stale
15:15:35 <janina> cmn: We need to bring it back up to date -- This means all of us
15:15:51 <janina> cmn: Any volunteers?
15:15:57 <janina> jf: A list of what needs doing?
15:16:09 <janina> cmn: Not at this stage. One thing is to look at what's out of date
15:16:14 <janina> leonie: I can do that
15:16:31 <chaals> ACTION: Leonie to tell us what is outdated in the wiki
15:16:31 <trackbot> Error finding 'Leonie'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/users>.
15:16:43 <chaals> zakim, next item
15:16:43 <Zakim> agendum 14. "longdesc next steps" taken up [from janina]
15:17:09 <janina> cmn: We're published!
15:17:19 <janina> cmn: We have an editorial and a technical bug ...
15:17:40 <janina> cmn: The bug respects idl in dom, if attrib changes it's unclear what happens
15:17:56 <janina> cmn: We need to be clearer about what happens
15:18:08 <janina> cmn: Please file any bugs
15:18:21 <janina> cmn: Current plan is that we need to wait 90 days post publication
15:18:29 <janina> cmn: We hope to have LC ready by June 9
15:18:37 <janina> cmn: Then we wait another 60 days
15:19:07 <janina> cmn: We could prepare implementation report during LC, and be ready to express through CR
15:20:08 <janina> jf: Offering to help on testing implementation
15:20:32 <janina> cmn: Other question is any enhancements to longdesc
15:20:44 <janina> cmn: Personally not interested to do that with this version
15:21:05 <janina> cmn: If something overtakes this, that's OK, but I'm inclined to get this one done before taking up further dev
15:21:49 <chaals> JS: We know ARIA is going to look at something in this area, so people should take part in that dicussion...
15:22:00 <chaals> zakim, next item
15:22:00 <Zakim> agendum 15. "face to face agenda items?" taken up [from janina]
15:22:03 <janina> janina: Also, ARIA next plans similar but enhanced functionality
15:22:46 <janina> cmn: No separate room available, but only formal space available for scheduled PF and HTML meetings
15:23:26 <chaals> JS: On agenda for PF is ARIA 1.1 - could look for a mutually good time for describedAt / longdesc++ discussion.
15:23:47 <janina> janina: We can schedule the PF ARIA-DescribedAt discussion to allow HTML folks to participate
15:24:12 <janina> cmn: F2F for HTML is April 23-24; for PF it's April 24-25
15:24:45 <janina> jf: Discussing browser implementation of controls might be a useful conversation
15:24:50 <janina> jf: Also transcript
15:25:40 <janina> cmn: We could perhaps meed Friday afternoon, as Web Apps will adjourn at Lunch
15:26:28 <janina> David, it's in San Jose.
15:26:38 <janina> See the PF meeting page for additional info ...
15:26:52 <janina> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/meetings/2013-04-ftf
15:27:03 <chaals> ACTION: chaals to figure out how to talk about transcripts and controls at F2F
15:27:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-158 - Figure out how to talk about transcripts and controls at F2F [on Charles McCathie Nevile - due 2013-03-28].
15:27:22 <janina> cyns: Would like to take time on HTML Mappings doc
15:27:49 <chaals> ACTION: chaals to see if there is time and people to talk about HTML mapping
15:27:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-159 - See if there is time and people to talk about HTML mapping [on Charles McCathie Nevile - due 2013-03-28].
15:28:35 <chaals> JS: Sooner is better for knowing if we can meet friday afternoon
15:28:36 <chaals> zakim, next item
15:28:36 <Zakim> agendum 16. "translateable attributes in HTML http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Mar/0051.html" taken up [from janina]
15:29:11 <janina> cmn: Steve has started a discussion on attribs where text content would be translated, e.g. alt
15:29:21 <janina> cmn: longdesc is not inherently translatable
15:29:29 <janina> cmn: But, ARIA attribs should be in that list
15:29:45 <janina> cmn: Please continue discussion in the thread on list for this
15:30:03 <chaals> zakim, next item
15:30:04 <Zakim> agendum 17. "subteam reports" taken up [from janina]
15:30:32 <janina> leonie: Bug Triage is reviewing, monitoring, and trying to get folks to respond!
15:30:48 <janina> leonie: Sent email to TF list, not sure what else we can do
15:30:58 <janina> cmn: What about bug by bug action items?
15:31:09 <janina> cmn: Tracker is useful that way
15:32:10 <janina> cmn: Nothing special to institute this, just start opening actions!
15:33:31 <Zakim> -John_Foliot
15:33:33 <chaals> js: Media planning to meet again soon.Have media user requirements doc that PF is moving to publish as a note. Have received comments, thing the subteam is the best people to respond to them, so need to agree on some.
15:33:49 <chaals> … next step is to find a meeting time, hope for early april.
15:34:11 <Zakim> +John_Foliot
15:34:15 <chaals> … comments are publicly visible (there was some confusion about that)
15:34:45 <janina> janina: Media will be meeting in April to discuss several issues, including responding to comments on User Requirements Accessibility do
15:34:51 <chaals> zakim, next item
15:34:51 <Zakim> I do not see any more non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, chaals
15:35:24 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
15:35:29 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
15:35:38 <Zakim> -leonie
15:35:39 <Zakim> -Judy
15:35:42 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
15:35:43 <Zakim> -hober
15:35:43 <Zakim> -Janina
15:35:45 <janina> zakim, bye
15:35:45 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Janina, +aaaa, Michael_Cooper, chaals, John_Foliot, Judy, +1.415.285.aabb, hober, Cynthia_Shelly, [IPcaller], leonie, David_MacDonald
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15:35:50 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
15:35:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/21-html-a11y-minutes.html janina
16:11:05 <janina> janina has changed the topic to: HTML-A11Y Task Force Teleconference; Thursday 28 March at 15:00Z for 60 minutes
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