IRC log of gld on 2013-02-28

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15:08:24 [DeirdreLee]: 13 telcos left
15:08:39 [bhyland]: Last week's minutes, please approve: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-02-21
15:08:54 [BenediktKaempgen]: +1
15:08:56 [DaveReynolds]: +1
15:09:01 [fadmaa]: +1
15:09:01 [gatemezi]: +1
15:09:04 [bhyland]: accepted, thanks
15:09:21 [bhyland]: zakim, who is on the call?
15:09:21 [Zakim]: On the phone I see bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, Sandro, fadmaa (muted), BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, cygri, gatemezi (muted), james, olyerickson, DeirdreLee, DaveReynolds,
15:09:24 [Zakim]: ... Mike_Pendleton, TallTed (muted), tinagheen
15:09:30 [DeirdreLee]: no new members on today's call
15:09:40 [bhyland]: Main page, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Main_Page
15:09:59 [DeirdreLee]: hadleybeeman is currently updating main WG page
15:10:28 [DeirdreLee]: aim is to reach mature stage for all vocabularies
15:10:39 [DeirdreLee]: and deliverables
15:10:58 [DeirdreLee]: at least to recommended status
15:11:17 [bhyland]: Topic: ORG
15:11:47 [DeirdreLee]: DaveReynolds: last week all issues were resolved apart from two
15:12:03 [martin_]: martin_ has joined #gld
15:12:05 [DeirdreLee]: ... one issue on relationships
15:12:22 [DeirdreLee]: between vocabularies
15:12:41 [DeirdreLee]: issue #58
15:12:46 [james]: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/58
15:13:20 [DeirdreLee]: agreed not to define any more specific details
15:13:40 [DeirdreLee]: close issue-58
15:13:40 [trackbot]: Closed ISSUE-58 Relate org:Organization to prov:Organization.
15:13:48 [TallTed]: close issue-## notations aren't picked up thru IRC
15:14:03 [bhyland]: To close it, go to http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/58
15:14:53 [Zakim]: +??P27
15:15:10 [martin_]: zakim, ??P27 is me
15:15:10 [Zakim]: +martin_; got it
15:15:16 [martin_]: zakim, mute me
15:15:16 [Zakim]: martin_ should now be muted
15:16:16 [bhyland]: ISSUE-55, ISSUE-56 and ISSUE-57 are awaiting PROV WG review. Remain pending review
15:16:38 [DeirdreLee]: Awaiting response from PROV WG
15:17:24 [cygri]: ISSUE-55?
15:17:24 [trackbot]: ISSUE-55 -- Use of prov:wasDerivedFrom -- pending review
15:17:24 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/55
15:17:29 [cygri]: ISSUE-45?
15:17:29 [trackbot]: ISSUE-45 -- Align treatment of registered addresses between Org and RegOrg -- pending review
15:17:29 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/45
15:19:08 [james]: q+
15:19:13 [bhyland]: Wonderful progress, thank you DaveR
15:19:16 [DeirdreLee]: For ISSUE-45, On org side, there is no range constraint, just a recommendation referring to REG ORG, so there is now no inconsistency
15:19:53 [bhyland]: Moving forward now to DCAT since we have Fadi and Olyerickson
15:20:00 [bhyland]: See https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues?sort=product
15:21:00 [bhyland]: Sandro: Point of CR is to gather implementation info
15:21:15 [james]: to see just non-closed dcat issues: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/2
15:21:28 [bhyland]: RE: W3C transiitions, see http://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions.html
15:21:34 [james]: q?
15:21:41 [hadleybeeman]: Okay, I'm also looking at http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr
15:21:44 [hadleybeeman]: Thanks!
15:22:04 [james]: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/5
15:22:11 [james]: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/99
15:22:21 [DeirdreLee]: CLOSE ACTION-99
15:22:21 [trackbot]: Closed ACTION-99 Send approved draft response to PROV-O WG.
15:22:26 [DeirdreLee]: CLOSE ACTION-100
15:22:26 [trackbot]: Closed ACTION-100 Ask PROV-O WG for feedback on ISSUE-58.
15:22:35 [fadmaa]: Zakim, unmute me
15:22:35 [Zakim]: fadmaa should no longer be muted
15:23:05 [DeirdreLee]: Some work remains on specification wording. Fadi is working on that
15:23:15 [bhyland]: Topic: DCAT
15:23:16 [bhyland]: see http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/
15:23:24 [DeirdreLee]: Proposals on resolutions on remaining issues were made
15:23:25 [olyerickson]: I see this proposal: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/AccessURLRedesign
15:23:32 [DeirdreLee]: no comments as of yet
15:23:50 [DeirdreLee]: fadmaa: will arrange telco this week to disucss dcat issues
15:23:55 [olyerickson]: I thought it was fine when fadmaa proposed it during a recent call
15:24:09 [DeirdreLee]: ... and to close the issues
15:24:54 [DeirdreLee]: bhyland: are there any major obstaces for remaining issues?
15:24:58 [olyerickson]: Q+
15:25:02 [fadmaa]: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/2
15:25:06 [james]: q-
15:25:11 [DeirdreLee]: fadmaa: those with pending review, are close to being closed
15:25:40 [fadmaa]: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/AccessURLRedesign
15:25:52 [DeirdreLee]: ... others have proposals on how to close them, with no suggestions or objection
15:25:55 [fadmaa]: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/43
15:26:21 [gatemezi]: +1 for having a telco just for DCAT
15:27:07 [DeirdreLee]: ... only thing that needs further discussion is the naming of certain classes, which will be discussed during telco
15:27:30 [bhyland]: @Fadi, if you can address Relationship of DCAT and VoID, see https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/54 that would be helpful.
15:27:31 [bhyland]: q?
15:27:38 [bhyland]: ack olyerickson
15:28:02 [cygri]: q+
15:28:36 [DeirdreLee]: olyerickson: suggests that fadmaa sends a mail itemising main problems, to try and resolve issues ahead of telco
15:28:36 [bhyland]: ACTION: Fadi to itemize in an email the issues that can be readily decided via email. Bias towards action!
15:28:36 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-101 - Itemize in an email the issues that can be readily decided via email. Bias towards action! [on Fadi Maali - due 2013-03-07].
15:28:41 [bhyland]: +1 olyerickson
15:28:56 [DeirdreLee]: ... then the telco can just be to agree on these final decisions
15:29:19 [DeirdreLee]: cygri: does not agree that these issues can be resolved via email
15:29:54 [fadmaa]: I sent few emails a couple of weeks ago: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jan/0058.html and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jan/0051.html
15:30:04 [fadmaa]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jan/0053.html
15:30:08 [DeirdreLee]: ... as all the info has already been circulated by email & wiki
15:30:18 [DeirdreLee]: ... need now is to close issues and get +1s
15:30:38 [DeirdreLee]: ... this formality is easier to do on a call
15:32:16 [DeirdreLee]: bhyland: it's time to finalise DCAT :)
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15:33:45 [DeirdreLee]: cygri: if WG participants want to have an input in DCAT issues, they should go through all existing issues, give feedback
15:33:54 [fadmaa]: Zakim, mute me
15:33:54 [Zakim]: fadmaa should now be muted
15:34:18 [DeirdreLee]: Topic: DATCUBE
15:34:28 [bhyland]: See https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube/index.html
15:34:39 [DeirdreLee]: s/DATCUBE/DATACUBE
15:35:35 [Zakim]: +??P0
15:35:46 [JoaoPauloAlmeida]: ??P0 is JoaoPauloAlmeida
15:36:17 [bhyland]: ISSUE-29 see https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/29
15:36:49 [DeirdreLee]: DaveReynolds: Has added notes to ISSUE-29
15:36:49 [bhyland]: ISSUE-32 see https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/32
15:37:04 [JoaoPauloAlmeida]: Zakim, mute me
15:37:04 [Zakim]: sorry, JoaoPauloAlmeida, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
15:37:12 [DeirdreLee]: ... Editors now waiting on some feedback from list on these notes
15:37:18 [JoaoPauloAlmeida]: Zakim, ??P0 is me
15:37:18 [Zakim]: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
15:37:25 [JoaoPauloAlmeida]: Zakim, mute me
15:37:25 [Zakim]: JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted
15:37:45 [bhyland]: Our goal is to get a LC out next week
15:37:57 [DeirdreLee]: ... will need a vote on next Thurs' call
15:37:58 [bhyland]: Need: People teed up to do a review of DataCube
15:38:26 [DeirdreLee]: ... members should give feedback before next Thurs' call
15:38:51 [cygri]: q+
15:38:52 [DeirdreLee]: ... if there are any objections. Let Richard/Dave know in the next day or two
15:39:04 [DeirdreLee]: ... otherwise it will be assumed there are no objections
15:39:37 [cygri]: ISSUE-39?
15:39:37 [trackbot]: ISSUE-39 -- Data Cube: Allow skos:Collections as value of qb:codeList -- open
15:39:37 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/39
15:39:37 [bhyland]: On cygri's plate, see ISSUE-37, see https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/37
15:40:15 [DeirdreLee]: cygri: will review ISSUE-37, 39
15:40:37 [DeirdreLee]: DaveReynolds had commented on all other open issues for DCAT
15:40:46 [DeirdreLee]: s/DCAT/DATACUBE
15:41:01 [TallTed]: TallTed has changed the topic to: Gov't Linked Data WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ -- current agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130228
15:41:33 [DeirdreLee]: ... any volunteer to do an editorial/content level check on the specification?
15:42:12 [BenediktKaempgen]: bhyland: shall I shortly speak about QB UC document?
15:42:36 [BenediktKaempgen]: +q
15:42:38 [DeirdreLee]: Topic: REG ORG
15:42:43 [cygri]: ack me
15:42:47 [DeirdreLee]: Phil not on call
15:43:45 [DeirdreLee]: bhyland will contact Vassilios about if he is still participating on REG ORG and in group in general
15:43:53 [DeirdreLee]: Topic: Glossary
15:44:00 [bhyland]: See https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html
15:44:20 [DeirdreLee]: bhyland has made changes to glossary
15:44:52 [bhyland]: Process: Ask the WG for a resolution that we're ready to publish as a Working Group Note
15:45:08 [sandro]: s/Proc/ Proc/
15:45:44 [DeirdreLee]: bhyland will send out an email asking members to review glossary
15:46:27 [bhyland]: q?
15:46:39 [bhyland]: ack BenediktKaempgen
15:46:50 [bhyland]: Topic: Data Cube UC Doc
15:47:03 [bhyland]: See https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html
15:47:17 [hadleybeeman]: q+
15:47:24 [cygri]: q+
15:48:07 [DeirdreLee]: BenedickKaempgen will review DATACUBE doc
15:48:14 [BenediktKaempgen]: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/data-cube-ucr-20130227/index.html
15:49:02 [Zakim]: -HadleyBeeman
15:49:10 [DeirdreLee]: BenedickKaempgen: has received feedback on initial draft and now is a collection of deployments
15:49:13 [gatemezi]: @bhyland re Glossary, there is some mix up in the numbers, such as 10, 10.1 or 10.55.1. Is it because you are still working on the file?
15:50:11 [Zakim]: +HadleyBeeman
15:50:52 [DeirdreLee]: ... document is pretty much stable. BenedickKaempgen asks WG to review it, so that it can be published as WG note
15:50:56 [DaveReynolds]: q+
15:50:57 [Zakim]: -JoaoPauloAlmeida
15:51:22 [cygri]: q?
15:51:36 [Zakim]: +??P0
15:51:42 [JoaoPauloAlmeida]: Zakim, ??P0 is me
15:51:42 [Zakim]: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
15:51:52 [bhyland]: Benedikt: DataCube UC doc is in a good state & ready for review by WG and should be published as Working Group Note
15:52:09 [sandro]: sandro: I suggest UCR be published as a WG Note
15:52:22 [bhyland]: q?
15:52:25 [hadleybeeman]: q-
15:52:36 [DeirdreLee]: bhyland: no requirement that DataCube UC should be reg track
15:52:49 [bhyland]: cygri: Confirmed Use Case doc should be a WG Note
15:54:24 [cygri]: ack me
15:54:37 [DeirdreLee]: cygri: there is a dependency for UC doc on DATACUBE spec, so we should ensure all requirements in UC doc are satisfied by spec
15:54:52 [bhyland]: Topic: EU Data Forum
15:55:01 [DaveReynolds]: q-
15:55:11 [bhyland]: Deirdre: Last Friday was deadline for call for contributions and they received many.
15:55:31 [bhyland]: See http://2013.data-forum.eu/news/european-data-forum-2013-call-contribution
15:55:41 [cygri]: cygri: as long as we verify that the UC&R doc doesn't imply new requirements that the spec doesn't cover now, i'm ok with publishing UC&R as Note
15:55:48 [bhyland]: Call for Exhibits closes on 11-March
15:56:05 [gatemezi]: We finally contribute to EDF2013 on the research track
15:56:21 [DaveReynolds]: Benedikt - happy to review the Use Case doc. Though probably can't do that till after done the QB LC draft, just not enough hours in the day!
15:56:28 [bhyland]: Deirdre: Big data in practice and commercial tools are welcome, also academic research projects & demos welcome.
15:56:43 [bhyland]: See http://2013.data-forum.eu/call-for-exhibits
15:56:55 [bhyland]: The deadline for submissions is: 11th Mar 2013, 02.00pm CET. Accepted exhibits will be notified on 15th Mar 2013
15:57:31 [bhyland]: Table format, bring posters, roll ups, demos on laptops, flyers all welcome
15:58:19 [bhyland]: Next F2F3 details see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F3
15:58:22 [Zakim]: -Mike_Pendleton
15:59:31 [bhyland]: Please consider looking & updating the http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F3#DRAFT_Agenda
15:59:47 [DeirdreLee]: q+
16:00:13 [bhyland]: ack DeirdreLee
16:00:16 [bhyland]: q?
16:00:24 [Zakim]: -olyerickson
16:00:28 [olyerickson]: olyerickson has left #gld
16:00:45 [Zakim]: -TallTed
16:00:49 [gatemezi]: thanks all!
16:00:50 [BenediktKaempgen]: Thanks
16:00:50 [Zakim]: -cygri
16:00:52 [Zakim]: -bhyland
16:00:52 [james]: james has left #gld
16:00:53 [Zakim]: -fadmaa
16:00:53 [Zakim]: -HadleyBeeman
16:00:54 [Zakim]: -Sandro
16:00:56 [Zakim]: -tinagheen
16:00:57 [Zakim]: -BenediktKaempgen
16:00:58 [Zakim]: -DaveReynolds
16:01:00 [Zakim]: -JoaoPauloAlmeida
16:01:02 [Zakim]: -james
16:01:03 [Zakim]: -BartvanLeeuwen
16:01:12 [bhyland]: @DeirdreLee, are you right publish minutes or do you need any support?
16:01:27 [Zakim]: -gatemezi
16:01:36 [DeirdreLee]: need support
16:01:40 [DeirdreLee]: but time i learned :)
16:01:53 [DeirdreLee]: i'm still on call if that's easiert
16:02:21 [cygri]: starting point: https://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/?group=ldp&go=Use+This+Group
16:02:47 [Zakim]: -DeirdreLee
16:02:52 [bhyland]: I have summarized actions here:
16:02:53 [bhyland]: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130228#Scribe.27s_End_of_Meeting_Checklist
16:03:14 [bhyland]: I'll monitor IRC and if you don't publish within 5 minutes, I'll do it :-)
16:03:49 [DeirdreLee]: RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
16:04:02 [DeirdreLee]: RRSAgent, generate minutes
16:04:02 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/02/28-gld-minutes.html DeirdreLee
16:05:56 [DeirdreLee]: How do I copy IRC log?
16:06:36 [bhyland]: Here, https://cgi.w3.org/member-bin/wiki_scribe?group=gld&go=Use+This+Group
16:07:25 [DeirdreLee]: ah, just click on the button, i see :)
16:07:29 [bhyland]: Right
16:07:41 [bhyland]: Looks like it is done, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-02-28
16:07:46 [bhyland]: Thank you Deirdre!
16:07:58 [bhyland]: I'll email separately re: hotel as I haven't booked accommodation yet
16:10:39 [DeirdreLee]: there's some errors that I don't know how to correct
16:14:26 [DeirdreLee]: ok, think i'm done, chat to you next week
16:35:00 [Zakim]: disconnecting the lone participant, martin_, in T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM
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16:35:02 [Zakim]: Attendees were bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, Sandro, +3539149aaaa, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, HadleyBeeman, cygri, olyerickson, james, DeirdreLee, DaveReynolds, gatemezi, Mike_Pendleton,
16:35:02 [Zakim]: ... TallTed, tinagheen, martin_, JoaoPauloAlmeida
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