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WCAG2ICT Task Force Teleconference

22 Feb 2013

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Attendees

Present
Regrets
David_MacDonald, Kiran_Kaja, Shadi_Abou-Zahra
Chair
Andi_Snow-Weaver
Scribe
Mary_Jo_Mueller, Andi_Snow-Weaver

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 22 February 2013

<andisnow> scribe: Mary_Jo_Mueller

<andisnow> scribenick: MaryJo

<Mike_P> Mike - My Mike doesn't work

Responses to comments on 1st public draft.

There is a survey out for the comments from the WCAG working group that we could cover at the end of this meeting.

Will take about 30 minutes to cover these.

M376 will be stopped at 10 so we can complete working on these edits.

We will meet for 1 hour on Friday 1 March.

M376 Comparison Survey

https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/cross-cutting-issues-and-notes/comparison-to-m376

<Mike_P> +q

The items where we think our language is better are highlighted in blue so they are easy to find.

This is in the right-hand column of the table.

There's only 1 we had come to agreement so far: 1.4.4.

<greggvanderheiden> yes very nice

Suggestion to make sure there is an explanation of why the WCAG2ICT text is preferable.

As we have been going through this, we've been settling on the language we prefer first rather than documenting an explanation.

<Mike_P> +1

<alex_> +1 for andi

<Mike_P> +q

<greggvanderheiden> Suggest that we just accept all the NO CHANGE items where Peter's analysis has already showed that they were not different ( shown as "there was no significant difference" in second last column and "no change" in last column.

<greggvanderheiden> ack

<Mike_P> +1

<Loic> +1 to what Peter has said

We can address the exact wording in the right column can be worked on as we go and we can replicate it.

<Mike_P> +q

<Mike_P> +1

For 1.4.4 we should say the difference is editorial, but explain that the WCAG2ICT language is easier to understand.

<korn> Differences only editorial.

<korn> No change. 

<korn> Rationale: WCAG2ICT language easier to understand.

<korn> -22Feb13

We are summarizing what WCAG2ICT is doing to our document and the rationale for that answer.

<korn> final 2.1.2 comment: "WCAG2ICT has note not in M376.

<korn> No change. 

<korn> Rationale: WCAG2ICT note helpful to developers.

<korn> -22Feb13."

We'll address 2.2.1 a little later because it will take some thought.

For SC 2.2.2, we have a Note 1 and a Note 2 where M376 combined in a single note. In WCAG2ICT there is a 'must' in one of the notes (because it was from WCAG) which was changed.

<greggvanderheiden> add ["replacing "page" with "non-web documents and software" ] to the end of the WCAG2ICT guidance.

<greggvanderheiden> so that it reads "This applies directly as written, and as described in INTENT from Understanding WCAG 2.0 (above) replacing "page" with "non-web documents and software + NOTE

<greggvanderheiden> Change fist paragraph of our guidance to say "This applies directly as written, and as described in INTENT from Understanding WCAG 2.0 (above) replacing "page" with "non-web documents and software in Note 2"

<andisnow> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/W2IRESPONSES/

<andisnow> scribe: Andi_Snow-Weaver

<andisnow> scribenick: andisnow

WCAG WG edits to comment responses

RESOLUTION: Accept WCAG WG edits to LC-2655

RESOLUTION: Accept WCAG WG edits to LC-2653
RESOLUTION: Accept WCAG WG edits to LC-2662
RESOLUTION: Accept WCAG WG edits with Loic's modification to LC-2669

<greggvanderheiden> We agree, and this is covered in the introduction of the current public force working draft dated Dec13, in the extended discussion on interpreting terms. http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-wcag2ict-20121213/

<greggvanderheiden> We agree, and this is covered in the Key Terms section (right after the introduction) of the current public task force working draft dated Dec13. http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-wcag2ict-20121213/

RESOLUTION: Accept WCAG WG edits to LC-2660 changing referencing Key Terms in the public working draft rather than Introduction on the Google site.
RESOLUTION: Accept WCAG WG edits to LC-2700 with additional phrase that it will appear in the next public working draft.
RESOLUTION: Accept WCAG WG edits with Loic's modification to LC-2679
RESOLUTION: Accept WCAG WG edits to LC-2681 with extra spaces removed per Loic's suggestion.
RESOLUTION: Accept WCAG WG edits to LC-2688
RESOLUTION: Accept WCAG WG edits to LC-2695

<BBailey> byw

Summary of Action Items

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