IRC log of i18n on 2013-01-23

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trackbot, prepare teleconference
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RRSAgent, make logs world
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Zakim, this will be 4186
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ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 23 January 2013
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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jan/0069.html
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Chair: Addison Phillips
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Scribe: Addison Phillips
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ScribeNick: aphillip
15:59:28 [David]
Addison, can I offer apologies now for next week?
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/23-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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rrsagent, set logs world
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I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has now started
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+David
16:00:39 [r12a]
zakim, dial richard please
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ok, r12a; the call is being made
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+Richard
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+aphillip
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zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see David, Richard, aphillip
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On IRC I see RRSAgent, aphillip, David, r12a, trackbot
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+Norbert
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Topic: Agenda and Minutes
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Topic: Action Items
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+??P26
16:05:13 [matial]
zakim, ??p26 is me
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+matial; got it
16:05:30 [r12a]
http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
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action-169?
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ACTION-169 -- Addison Phillips to remind everyone to comment on css3-text-decoration by next week -- due 2013-01-16 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/169
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close ACTION-169
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Closed ACTION-169 Remind everyone to comment on css3-text-decoration by next week.
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action-170?
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ACTION-170 -- Addison Phillips to coordinate with richard regarding KLReq -- due 2013-01-16 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/170
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Topic: Info Share
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richard: changed tracker pages
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... to show the content of emails that have been tracked
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... withoug having to click through
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s/withoug/without/
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http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/212
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click on the buttons
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+[Microsoft]
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richard: hoping to hide text from previous emails that have been top quoted
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zakim, [Microsoft] is etran
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+etran; got it
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richard: send any suggestions on styling or other improvements
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norbert: where do I file a ticket when broken?
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richard: send to me
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/23-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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richard: john kleinsin will join our WG as IE
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Topic: What Time Is This Meeting At? (5 minutes allocated)
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The proposal is to move this meeting to Thursdays at 1600 UTC. Objections to be considered.
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ACTION: addison: separately poll for final objections to making this meeting on thursdays at 1600 utc and, if none, move the meeting
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Created ACTION-172 - Separately poll for final objections to making this meeting on thursdays at 1600 utc and, if none, move the meeting [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-01-30].
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Topic: Publication of UTR#20 (10 minutes allocated)
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richard: expect to get announcement that UTR#20 has been publised from the webmaster
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... it has been editorially updated
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... sent comments on any future version
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... Martin seemed to indicate he might do some edits
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norbert: did it include that document "stuck in 2007"?
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richard: yes, added something
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addison: need to solicit editor (might do it myself?)
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Topic: Skipping the .prep stage in reviews (15 minutes allocated)
16:20:36 [aphillip]
There are several proposals for improving our review process.
16:20:44 [r12a]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jan/0050.html
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Richard: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jan/0038.html
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Addison: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jan/0040.html
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richard: indicate status of each item
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ACTION: richard: update review instruction documentation
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Created ACTION-173 - Update review instruction documentation [on Richard Ishida - due 2013-01-30].
16:33:20 [aphillip]
richard: keeping .prep or no?
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.... prep goes to public list, not winter
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addison: didn't we want to talk on winter?
16:42:39 [aphillip]
richard: make link to the instructions much bigger :-)
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agenda item next time: assign shepherds to all .prep containers
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Topic: HTML5 issues (remainder)
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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17854
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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19207
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http://www.inter-locale.com/test/DateDemo.html
16:45:23 [etran]
Hi all - etran will be disconnecting now. Have a good day.
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-etran
16:49:24 [aphillip]
2012-11-12 ---> Sun Nov 11 2012
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12 Nov 2012 00:00:00 GMT
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ACTION: addison: write article about floating times in HTML
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Created ACTION-174 - Write article about floating times in HTML [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-01-30].
16:53:07 [aphillip]
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19207
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(Martin's bug regarding validators)
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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16955
16:55:20 [r12a]
ACTION: r12a to contact Robin Berjon about what he's doing wrt ruby extension work
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Created ACTION-175 - Contact Robin Berjon about what he's doing wrt ruby extension work [on Richard Ishida - due 2013-01-30].
16:55:50 [aphillip]
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20096
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addison: think the validator sould be permitted to "squeak" if a bad byte sequence occurs in the document
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"good to emit warning of badly encoded data, don't think validator should crash"
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addison to add sense of WG comment
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Topic: AOB?
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Norbert: had ITS on agenda
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... clarify position on ruby?
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... ruby section should go because not implemented (plus other reasons)
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addison: discuss in email
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richard: okay
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-aphillip
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-David
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-Norbert
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-matial
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zakim, drop richard
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Richard is being disconnected
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I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were David, Richard, aphillip, Norbert, matial, etran
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Present: Addison, Richard, David, Norbert, Mati
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Present: Addison, Richard, Davie, Norbert, Mati, Emile
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Regrets: Felix
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/23-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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rrsagent, bye
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I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/23-i18n-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: addison: separately poll for final objections to making this meeting on thursdays at 1600 utc and, if none, move the meeting [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/23-i18n-irc#T16-15-59
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ACTION: richard: update review instruction documentation [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/23-i18n-irc#T16-33-09
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ACTION: addison: write article about floating times in HTML [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/23-i18n-irc#T16-52-22
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ACTION: r12a to contact Robin Berjon about what he's doing wrt ruby extension work [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/23-i18n-irc#T16-55-20
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zakim, bye
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