IRC log of mlw-lt on 2013-01-21
Timestamps are in UTC.
- 13:46:28 [RRSAgent]
- RRSAgent has joined #mlw-lt
- 13:46:28 [RRSAgent]
- logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-irc
- 13:46:35 [fsasaki]
- meeting: MLW-LT WG
- 13:46:38 [fsasaki]
- chair: felix
- 13:47:20 [fsasaki]
- regrets: christian, david
- 13:47:28 [fsasaki]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Jan/0142.html
- 13:48:22 [fsasaki]
- topic: role call
- 13:48:24 [fsasaki]
- tbd ...
- 13:51:29 [fsasaki]
- regrets+ olaf-michael
- 13:51:40 [fsasaki]
- present+ fsasaki
- 13:51:47 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
- 13:53:02 [fsasaki]
- regrets+ arle
- 13:59:16 [kfritsche]
- kfritsche has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:00:14 [pnietoca]
- pnietoca has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:00:42 [pnietoca]
- present+ pnietoca
- 14:00:44 [philr]
- philr has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:01:00 [leroy]
- leroy has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:01:14 [philr]
- present+ philr
- 14:01:23 [leroy]
- present+ leroy
- 14:01:42 [mdelolmo]
- mdelolmo has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:02:03 [giuseppe]
- giuseppe has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:02:11 [mdelolmo]
- present+ mdelolmo
- 14:02:16 [Arle]
- Arle has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:02:16 [joerg]
- joerg has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:02:22 [Arle]
- present+ Arle
- 14:02:29 [joerg]
- present+ joerg
- 14:03:00 [Ankit]
- Ankit has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:03:17 [Ankit]
- present+ Ankit
- 14:03:17 [Jirka]
- Jirka has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:04:16 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
- 14:04:23 [daveL]
- daveL has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:04:27 [Jirka]
- present+ Jirka
- 14:04:40 [daveL]
- present+ daveL
- 14:04:40 [kfritsche]
- present+ Karl
- 14:05:09 [DomJones1]
- DomJones1 has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:05:12 [DomJones1]
- lre
- 14:05:14 [DomJones1]
- ;re
- 14:05:24 [DomJones1]
- present+ DomJones
- 14:05:30 [Jirka]
- present+ Jirka
- 14:06:06 [fsasaki]
- scribe: Jirka
- 14:06:10 [Jirka]
- scribe: Jirka
- 14:06:11 [fsasaki]
- topic: LC feedback
- 14:06:18 [fsasaki]
- http://tinyurl.com/its20-comments-handling
- 14:06:49 [Marcis]
- Marcis has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:06:52 [Jirka]
- Felix: we have 52 comments, we need to distribute them in order to process them in a timely manner
- 14:07:01 [Marcis]
- present+ Marcis
- 14:07:20 [Jirka]
- Topic: LC issues
- 14:07:20 [fsasaki]
- topic: annotatorsRef
- 14:07:27 [fsasaki]
- http://www.w3.org/2013/01/16-mlw-lt-minutes.html#item07
- 14:07:59 [Milan]
- Milan has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:08:49 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
- 14:08:57 [Pedro]
- Pedro has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:08:57 [Milan]
- present+ Milan
- 14:09:24 [Jirka]
- Dave: Some people are concerned what will happen when more people will add annotatorsRef into the same document. Probably something like best practice for this will be need.
- 14:10:13 [Pedro]
- present+ Pedro
- 14:10:33 [Jirka]
- ... Reply will be: we are aware of the issue, but there is no easy solution.
- 14:10:57 [Jirka]
- Felix: We need to answer to comment and get feedback back (satisfied/not satisfied)
- 14:11:47 [Jirka]
- ... commenters can disagree but can agree to move forward we just record it
- 14:12:17 [Jirka]
- ... if someone object to move forward (formal objection) this has to be discussed with director, there is a lot of paperwork connected to this
- 14:12:23 [Jirka]
- ... so we should try to avoid this
- 14:13:44 [fsasaki]
- https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/71
- 14:15:03 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
- 14:15:05 [Jirka]
- Action: Dlewis6 to Contact original commenter and see whether Yves additions to comment are what was meant there
- 14:15:05 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-386 - Contact original commenter and see whether Yves additions to comment are what was meant there [on David Lewis - due 2013-01-28].
- 14:15:22 [Clemens]
- Clemens has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:15:29 [Clemens]
- present +Clemens
- 14:15:33 [Jirka]
- topic: provenance record ordering
- 14:15:59 [Jirka]
- http://www.w3.org/2013/01/16-mlw-lt-minutes.html#item08
- 14:16:20 [Jirka]
- Felix: can we close it as is?
- 14:16:21 [fsasaki]
- http://www.w3.org/2013/01/16-mlw-lt-minutes.html#item08
- 14:18:33 [Jirka]
- Felix: there is no strong requirement for timestamp inside group
- 14:19:14 [Jirka]
- Action: Dlewis6 to Contact original commenter about real need of timestamp
- 14:19:14 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-387 - Contact original commenter about real need of timestamp [on David Lewis - due 2013-01-28].
- 14:20:11 [Jirka]
- topic: Disambiguation and term
- 14:20:21 [Jirka]
- Postponed till F2F where Christian can dial-in
- 14:20:45 [fsasaki]
- topic: Sorting LC comments
- 14:20:46 [Jirka]
- Domain discussion will be postponed as well
- 14:20:59 [fsasaki]
- http://tinyurl.com/its20-comments-handling
- 14:21:29 [Jirka]
- Felix: We need to assign "shepherd" to each comment
- 14:22:03 [fsasaki]
- issue-67?
- 14:22:03 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-67 -- Change definition of regular expression for allowed characters -- open
- 14:22:03 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/67
- 14:22:25 [fsasaki]
- yves and shaun
- 14:22:44 [fsasaki]
- issue-68?
- 14:22:44 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-68 -- Disambiguation (and term) -- open
- 14:22:44 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/68
- 14:22:57 [Marcis]
- Sure
- 14:22:59 [fsasaki]
- marcis
- 14:23:09 [fsasaki]
- issue-69?
- 14:23:09 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-69 -- recursive nesting of external rules -- open
- 14:23:09 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/69
- 14:23:27 [fsasaki]
- pablo
- 14:23:28 [Jirka]
- Pablo
- 14:23:36 [fsasaki]
- issue-70?
- 14:23:36 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-70 -- Defined order of precedence missing inherited local values -- open
- 14:23:36 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/70
- 14:23:54 [fsasaki]
- felix
- 14:23:54 [Jirka]
- felix
- 14:24:05 [Jirka]
- issue-71?
- 14:24:05 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-71 -- Section 5.8 (annotatorsRef) -- open
- 14:24:05 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/71
- 14:24:07 [fsasaki]
- issue-71?
- 14:24:07 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-71 -- Section 5.8 (annotatorsRef) -- open
- 14:24:07 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/71
- 14:24:10 [Jirka]
- dave
- 14:24:13 [Jirka]
- issue-72?
- 14:24:13 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-72 -- Section 8.12 (Provenance Data Category) -- open
- 14:24:13 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/72
- 14:24:15 [Jirka]
- dave
- 14:24:54 [Jirka]
- Action to all - look at all issue before F2F in Prague
- 14:24:54 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'to'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/users>.
- 14:24:58 [Jirka]
- issue-73?
- 14:24:58 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-73 -- NIF comments -- open
- 14:24:58 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/73
- 14:24:59 [Jirka]
- felix
- 14:25:05 [Jirka]
- issue-74?
- 14:25:05 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-74 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 WD-its20-20121206 - Section 1.1 (Relation to ITS 1.0 and New Principles) -- open
- 14:25:05 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/74
- 14:25:52 [Jirka]
- dave
- 14:26:45 [Jirka]
- issue-75?
- 14:26:45 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-75 -- Comments related to "domain" -- open
- 14:26:45 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/75
- 14:27:02 [Jirka]
- Jörg
- 14:27:13 [Jirka]
- issue-76?
- 14:27:13 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-76 -- clarification of "inconsistency" quality issue type needed -- open
- 14:27:13 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/76
- 14:27:40 [Jirka]
- Arle
- 14:27:52 [Jirka]
- issue-77?
- 14:27:52 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-77 -- Precedence of global rules in HTML if both links and inline rules with "script" are available -- open
- 14:27:52 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/77
- 14:28:06 [Jirka]
- Jirka
- 14:28:21 [Jirka]
- issue-78?
- 14:28:21 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-78 -- I18N-ISSUE-203: Use of rel values in HTML -- open
- 14:28:21 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/78
- 14:28:27 [Jirka]
- Jirka
- 14:28:46 [Jirka]
- issue-79?
- 14:28:46 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-79 -- I18N-ISSUE-204: Use of namespaces and HTML -- open
- 14:28:46 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/79
- 14:29:00 [Jirka]
- Jirka
- 14:29:09 [Jirka]
- issue-80?
- 14:29:09 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-80 -- I18N-ISSUE-205: Examples of html markup in section 6 -- open
- 14:29:09 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/80
- 14:29:35 [Jirka]
- Felix
- 14:29:51 [Jirka]
- issue-81?
- 14:29:51 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-81 -- I18N-ISSUE-207: Term data category and dfn element -- open
- 14:29:51 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/81
- 14:30:05 [Jirka]
- related to ISSUE-89
- 14:30:44 [Jirka]
- Felix: HTML already provides something like ITS markup already, for examply its:term can be explicitly marked by using <dfn> element
- 14:31:02 [Marcis]
- Well the dfn has a much narrower use case than Terminology ...
- 14:31:07 [Marcis]
- That is the issue ...
- 14:31:19 [Marcis]
- (as I understand it)
- 14:31:46 [Jirka]
- Felix will create proposal for both issues (81 and 89)
- 14:31:58 [Jirka]
- issue-82?
- 14:31:58 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-82 -- I18N-ISSUE-208: Mapping domains to nothing -- open
- 14:31:58 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/82
- 14:32:20 [Jirka]
- dave
- 14:32:32 [Jirka]
- issue-83?
- 14:32:32 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-83 -- Notes on loc quality issue section -- open
- 14:32:32 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/83
- 14:33:06 [Jirka]
- Christian
- 14:33:32 [Jirka]
- issue-84?
- 14:33:32 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-84 -- translate ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian [Indic] languages -- open
- 14:33:32 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/84
- 14:33:50 [tadej]
- tadej has joined #mlw-lt
- 14:33:55 [Jirka]
- David
- 14:35:01 [Jirka]
- issue-85?
- 14:35:01 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-85 -- NLP Interchange Format (NIF) - 1.0/2.0, Canonical XML, Unicode Normalization Forms -- closed
- 14:35:01 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/85
- 14:35:02 [Jirka]
- felix
- 14:35:22 [Jirka]
- issue-86
- 14:35:22 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-86 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-209: Implementation commitment -- open
- 14:35:22 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/86
- 14:35:24 [Jirka]
- felix
- 14:35:27 [Jirka]
- issue-87?
- 14:35:27 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-87 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-210: Whitespace in ruby example -- open
- 14:35:27 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/87
- 14:35:29 [Jirka]
- felix
- 14:35:32 [Jirka]
- issue-88?
- 14:35:32 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-88 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-211: Quote element in HTML [should be cite, q, or blockquote] -- open
- 14:35:32 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/88
- 14:35:35 [Jirka]
- felix
- 14:36:31 [Jirka]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/open
- 14:37:24 [Jirka]
- issue-90?
- 14:37:25 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-90 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-214: directionality should be made normative, with informative additions -- open
- 14:37:25 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/90
- 14:37:33 [Jirka]
- felix
- 14:37:36 [Jirka]
- issue-91?
- 14:37:36 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-91 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-215: Parts of Ruby section should be removed -- open
- 14:37:36 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/91
- 14:38:00 [Jirka]
- wait till I18N WG will provide additional feedback
- 14:38:05 [Jirka]
- issue-92?
- 14:38:05 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-92 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-216: Locale filter note -- open
- 14:38:05 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/92
- 14:38:15 [Jirka]
- Yves
- 14:38:35 [Jirka]
- issue-93?
- 14:38:35 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-93 -- Case-insensitivity mode for predefined tokens undefined; should be ASCII-case-insensitivity -- open
- 14:38:35 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/93
- 14:38:55 [Jirka]
- Jirka
- 14:39:04 [Jirka]
- issue-94?
- 14:39:04 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-94 -- Use of XSD number types is inconsistent with numbers in HTML -- open
- 14:39:04 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/94
- 14:39:25 [Jirka]
- Jirka
- 14:40:25 [Jirka]
- issue-95?
- 14:40:25 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-95 -- I18N-ISSUE-217: Missing support for localizable items that are not translatable -- open
- 14:40:25 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/95
- 14:41:04 [Jirka]
- Phil
- 14:41:09 [Jirka]
- issue-96?
- 14:41:09 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-96 -- ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian [Indic] languages -- open
- 14:41:09 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/96
- 14:41:27 [Jirka]
- dave
- 14:41:36 [Jirka]
- probably this is duplicate
- 14:41:41 [Jirka]
- issue-97?
- 14:41:41 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-97 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD - HTML translate -- open
- 14:41:41 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/97
- 14:41:59 [Jirka]
- Karl
- 14:42:03 [Jirka]
- issue-98?
- 14:42:03 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-98 -- Comment on ITS 2.0 specification WD, i18n-ISSUE-238: Selecting attributes using local selection -- open
- 14:42:03 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/98
- 14:42:51 [Jirka]
- Milan
- 14:43:06 [Jirka]
- issue-99
- 14:43:06 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-99 -- I18N-ISSUE-239: Selecting attributes using Selectors -- open
- 14:43:06 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/99
- 14:43:08 [Jirka]
- Milan
- 14:43:14 [Jirka]
- issue-100?
- 14:43:14 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-100 -- I18N-ISSUE-240: Bad example: Hard-coded coordinates [ITS-20] -- open
- 14:43:14 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/100
- 14:43:19 [Jirka]
- Felix
- 14:43:22 [Jirka]
- issue-101?
- 14:43:22 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-101 -- I18N-ISSUE-241: Directionality section doesn't mention isolates [ITS-20] -- open
- 14:43:22 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/101
- 14:43:24 [Jirka]
- Felix
- 14:43:35 [Jirka]
- issue-102?
- 14:43:35 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-102 -- I18N-ISSUE-242: Clarify case-insensitive match for domains [ITS-20] -- open
- 14:43:35 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/102
- 14:43:46 [Jirka]
- Pablo
- 14:43:50 [Jirka]
- issue-103?
- 14:43:50 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-103 -- I18N-ISSUE-243: Clarify filtering algorithm for locale filters [ITS-20] -- open
- 14:43:50 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/103
- 14:44:03 [Jirka]
- Yves/Shaun
- 14:44:12 [Jirka]
- issue-104?
- 14:44:12 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-104 -- I18N-ISSUE-244: Require recent version of Unicode [ITS-20] -- open
- 14:44:12 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/104
- 14:44:17 [Jirka]
- Felix
- 14:44:27 [Jirka]
- issue-105?
- 14:44:27 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-105 -- I18N-ISSUE-245: Consider replacing Unicode block escapes with script escapes [ITS-20] -- open
- 14:44:27 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/105
- 14:44:43 [Jirka]
- Yves
- 14:44:53 [Jirka]
- it's related to regular expression
- 14:44:59 [Jirka]
- issue-106?
- 14:45:00 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-106 -- I18N-ISSUE-246: Clarify character encoding behavior when calculating storage size [ITS-20] -- open
- 14:45:00 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/106
- 14:45:02 [Jirka]
- Karl
- 14:45:05 [Jirka]
- issue-107?
- 14:45:05 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-107 -- I18N-ISSUE-247: Clarify interpretation of line breaks when calculating storage size [ITS-20] -- open
- 14:45:05 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/107
- 14:45:07 [Jirka]
- Karl
- 14:45:32 [Jirka]
- issue-108?
- 14:45:32 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-108 -- locNote ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian [Indic] languages -- open
- 14:45:32 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/108
- 14:45:59 [Jirka]
- Dave
- 14:46:04 [Jirka]
- issue-109
- 14:46:04 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-109 -- disambiguation ITS 2.0 requirements w.r.t Indian [Indic] languages -- open
- 14:46:04 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/109
- 14:46:06 [Jirka]
- Dave
- 14:46:30 [fsasaki]
- topic: prague f2f
- 14:46:49 [fsasaki]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/PragueJan2013f2f#Objectives
- 14:48:32 [Jirka]
- Felix will put slots for implementations integration into agenda
- 14:49:12 [fsasaki]
- http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/PragueJan2013f2f#Participants
- 14:50:02 [Jirka]
- Adjourned
- 14:50:22 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
- 14:50:24 [Jirka]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 14:50:24 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html Jirka
- 14:50:46 [Jirka]
- Jirka has left #mlw-lt
- 14:51:29 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
- 15:02:04 [Yves_]
- Yves_ has joined #mlw-lt
- 15:03:14 [Yves_]
- Sorry I've got the time mixed up.
- 15:03:57 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
- 15:07:18 [Yves_]
- Ok
- 15:18:58 [fsasaki]
- fsasaki has joined #mlw-lt
- 15:19:17 [Zakim]
- Zakim has left #mlw-lt
- 15:19:23 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/21-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki