IRC log of aapi on 2013-01-17

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zakim, this is #aapi
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sorry, clown, I do not see a conference named '#aapi' in progress or scheduled at this time
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zakim, this will be aapi
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ok, clown; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM scheduled to start 2 minutes ago
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WAI_PFWG(AAPI)1:00PM has now started
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+[GVoice]
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zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
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+Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
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zakim , I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
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zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
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ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Jan/0025.html
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agenda: this
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agenda+ Preparing for last call draft -- can we set a "document freeze" date regarding changes to the UAIG?
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agenda+ ACTION-891: Write testable statements for aria-describedby: issue with UAIG mapping table for UAI -- no field to put description into.
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agenda+ Issues/Actions review: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
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agenda+ Bugzilla review: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=ARIA&component=Platform%20APIs&list_id=3116
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agenda + be done
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scribenick: clown
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agenda?
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+[Microsoft]
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zakim, microsoft has me
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+cyns; got it
18:11:47 [clown]
agenda order is [2, 1]
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agenda?
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topic: action-891
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action-891?
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ACTION-891 -- Matthew King to write testable statements for aria-describedby -- due 2012-03-05 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/891
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CS: for UIA, we point to the accesible object in the tree that contains the description.
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JS: what about multiple IDREFs?
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CS: good question. I'd have to look.
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CS: assign me the action, and I'll do the test cases.
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JS: okay.
18:16:57 [Zakim]
-[Microsoft]
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+[Microsoft]
18:23:17 [cyns]
zakim, microsoft has me
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+cyns; got it
18:23:18 [clown]
topic: issue-546
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issue-546?
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ISSUE-546 -- When aria-invalid="true/false", the state mapping table is misleading for UIA. -- open
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/546
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js: aria-invalid is "opposite" of IsValidForForm in UIA
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CS: yes, we should change it in the UAIG to flp the sense.
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JS: okay.
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ACTION: Joseph to edit UIA cells in states/properties table for aria-invalid and UIA to flip the sense when aria-invalid is true or false.
18:25:41 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-1149 - Edit UIA cells in states/properties table for aria-invalid and UIA to flip the sense when aria-invalid is true or false. [on Joseph Scheuhammer - due 2013-01-24].
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action-1143
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ACTION-1143 -- Cynthia Shelly to (1) identify what pattern that invalid is mapped to (2) to see if it's implemented for widget roles -- due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1143
18:28:51 [clown]
CS: wait a second. I'm not sure what happens when aria-invalid is "spelling" or "grammar". IsDataValid is just a boolean.
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CS: is there an action.
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JS: yes, action-1143.
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CS: that's assigned to me, and it's due next week. Let me take a look.
18:32:40 [clown]
JS: okay, I'll hold off on the edit until you have done the research.
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topic: Edit freeze date
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JS: what about action-842?
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action-842?
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ACTION-842 -- Cynthia Shelly to create a diagram to support 1.2 A11Y vs DOM tree -- due 2011-06-21 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/842
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CS: that's not a blocker; just a nice to have.
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action-851?
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ACTION-851 -- Cynthia Shelly to look through APG design patterns re: menus for examples that relate to UAIG 5.8.4 -- due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/851
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CS: relates to section 5.8.1
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JS: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_events_state-change
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JS: is it 5.8.4
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_events_state-change
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_events_menus
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CS: I think this is for testing.
18:43:37 [clown]
CS: I'm looking at the minutes to see what this is all about.
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CS: not sure what this is all about. Can you take it back to the Mon meeting?
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JS: okay.
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CS: Maybe Michael remembers.
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ISSUE-550?
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ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550
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ACTION-1104?
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ACTION-1104 -- Cynthia Shelly to define what the accessibility API mapping is for UIA on aria-describedby in section 5.5.1 table when the element does not exist in the accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies -- due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104
18:51:23 [clown]
JS: relates to the earlier aria-describedby issue.
18:56:14 [Zakim]
-[Microsoft]
18:56:18 [davidb]
oh ok
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-aapi-minutes.html clown
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regrets: David_Bolter
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-aapi-minutes.html clown
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-aapi-minutes.html clown
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JS: I have created issue-550 for tracking actions that require edits to the UAIG.
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issue-550?
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ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550
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JS: I will look through the action items and associate them with issue-550.
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JS: I will send out an email early next week to Cynthia and David to look over and see if those associated actions are relevant and or a complete list.
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JS: we can discuss further on email or at next week's UAIG meeting.
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zakim, bye
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leaving. As of this point the attendees were Joseph_Scheuhammer, cyns
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Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference: UAIG
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Chair: Joseph_Scheuhamemr
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