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17:00:15 <Joshue> zakim, this will be 9224
17:00:15 <Zakim> ok, Joshue; I see WAI_HTML TT()11:30AM scheduled to start 30 minutes ago
17:00:22 <Joshue> rrsagent, make log world
17:00:34 <Joshue> meeting: HTML Techniques Task Force
17:00:39 <Joshue> chair: Joshue
17:00:45 <Joshue> agenda + next steps in submitting techniques to the wider group
17:00:45 <Joshue> planning for the year
17:01:41 <Zakim> WAI_HTML TT()11:30AM has now started
17:01:48 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:01:56 <Joshue> zakim, [IPcaller] is Joshue
17:01:56 <Zakim> +Joshue; got it
17:02:22 <Zakim> + +49.404.318.aaaa
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17:05:56 <adam> zakim, [IPcaller] is adam_solomon
17:05:56 <Zakim> +adam_solomon; got it
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17:08:36 <jamesn1> zakim, pick a victim
17:08:36 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Marc_Johlic
17:09:44 <Joshue> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/ARIA
17:09:52 <Joshue> zakim, take up item 1
17:09:52 <Zakim> agendum 1. "next steps in submitting techniques to the wider group" taken up [from Joshue]
17:10:31 <adam> joshua: 19 techniques in aria are ready for review, what are next steps?
17:10:57 <adam> loretta: need to get them into a survey before the working group
17:11:27 <adam> joshua: clearly labeled "ready for review" in wiki
17:11:41 <adam> joshua: html5 - very little ready
17:12:28 <adam> loretta: someone should go through at support for these techniques
17:13:16 <adam> joshua: suggest technique authors can update at support
17:15:21 <adam> detlev: can test AT on loretta's techniques
17:15:38 <adam> james: will look at david's techniques
17:16:42 <adam> james: which AT needs to be tested?
17:17:26 <adam> joshua: suggest wiki page to outline specific AT support
17:17:49 <adam> detlev: mozilla with nvda
17:18:19 <adam> james: nvda not frequently used
17:19:13 <Joshue> ACTION: Josh to create wiki page to outline testing methodology and user agent suite/browser combinations for ARIA techniques.
17:20:13 <adam> marc: agree with detlev - nvda is vastly improved
17:20:53 <Detlev> I tested my own techniques: overview page is here: http://3needs.org/en/testing/sr-aria.html
17:24:00 <adam> detlev: though settings can effect at support - still it is generally straightforward process
17:24:32 <adam> james: need to know the at well so that bad settings won't give the impression that there is no support
17:24:51 <adam> detlev: therefore need to document the testing process accurately
17:28:34 <adam> loretta: would like to present techniques on this weeks survey
17:28:55 <adam> loretta: multiple label techniques for 1.1.1 - perhaps change titles
17:31:48 <adam> agreed to adjust titles to be able to infer from the title alone what the context is
17:32:33 <adam> loretta: will try for 1.1.1 techniques in next survey
17:33:46 <adam> loretta, joshua: smaller chunked surveys make sense
17:34:38 <adam> loretta: label techniques bundled in one survey so that group can determine how to separate these techniques
17:34:48 <Detlev> makes sense
17:36:26 <adam> loretta: will try for labelledby techs this week
17:37:57 <adam> suggestion to send labelledby techs before the group for review (3 or 4)
17:38:25 <adam> resoution: send labelledby techniques before thr group
17:40:22 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
17:40:24 <Zakim> -adam_solomon
17:40:27 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
17:40:28 <Zakim> -Marc_Johlic
17:40:33 <Zakim> - +49.404.318.aaaa
17:40:43 <Joshue> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:40:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/07-html-techs-tf-minutes.html Joshue
17:40:54 <Zakim> -Joshue
17:40:55 <Zakim> WAI_HTML TT()11:30AM has ended
17:40:55 <Zakim> Attendees were Joshue, +49.404.318.aaaa, adam_solomon, James_Nurthen, Marc_Johlic
17:41:46 <Joshue> ACTION: Loretta to create first surveys of aria-labelledby techniques
17:41:59 <Joshue> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:41:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/07-html-techs-tf-minutes.html Joshue
17:42:21 <Joshue> rrsagent, make minutes
17:42:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/07-html-techs-tf-minutes.html Joshue