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13:51:27 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 
13:51:27 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
13:51:28 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:51:28 <trackbot> Date: 25 June 2012
13:52:04 <Yves> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2012.06.25
13:52:04 <Yves> Scribe: Yves
13:52:04 <Yves> Chair: Arnaud
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13:59:14 <ruben1> zakim, who is here?
13:59:14 <Zakim> sorry, ruben1, I don't know what conference this is
13:59:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see SteveS, krp, ruben1, Zakim, RRSAgent, svillata, rgarcia, ghard, Arnaud, JohnArwe, LeeF, oberger, MacTed, AndyS, betehess, achille-zappa, sandro, Yves, trackbot, ericP
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14:00:21 <Zakim> ok, AndyS; that matches SW_LDP()10:00AM
14:00:29 <Zakim> +Steve_Speicher
14:00:31 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:00:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0, ??P1, +329331aaaa, Arnaud, ??P4, ??P5, ??P6, Steve_Speicher
14:00:37 <Zakim> -??P5
14:00:44 <Zakim> + +1.510.206.aabb
14:00:44 <Ruben> zakim, this is aaaa
14:00:45 <Zakim> sorry, Ruben, I do not see a conference named 'aaaa' in progress or scheduled at this time
14:00:47 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
14:00:59 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
14:01:01 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
14:01:02 <SteveS> zakim, this is Steve_Speicher
14:01:04 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
14:01:04 <MacTed> Zakim, who's here?
14:01:06 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
14:01:09 <Ruben> Zakim, I am aaaa
14:01:10 <Zakim> sorry, SteveS, I do not see a conference named 'Steve_Speicher' in progress or scheduled at this time
14:01:12 <JacekKopecky> JacekKopecky has joined #ldp
14:01:17 <Zakim> +??P12
14:01:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0, ??P1, +329331aaaa, Arnaud, ??P4, ??P6, Steve_Speicher, +1.510.206.aabb, MacTed (muted), ??P12
14:01:19 <Ruben> zakim, I am aaaa
14:01:23 <AndyS> zakim, ??P12 is me
14:01:23 <Zakim> +??P11
14:01:25 <Zakim> + +1.845.433.aacc
14:01:28 <MacTed> Zakim, aaaa is Ruben
14:01:31 <JohnArwe> zakim, this JohnArwe
14:01:31 <Zakim> +Ruben; got it
14:01:35 <Zakim> On IRC I see JacekKopecky, cgueret_work, Ruben, SteveS, krp, Zakim, RRSAgent, svillata, rgarcia, ghard, Arnaud, JohnArwe, LeeF, oberger, MacTed, AndyS, betehess, achille-zappa,
14:01:40 <Zakim> ... sandro, Yves, trackbot, ericP
14:01:42 <Zakim> sorry, Ruben, I do not see a party named 'aaaa'
14:01:49 <SteveS> Zakim, Steve_Speicher is SteveS
14:01:50 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
14:01:54 <Zakim> sorry, MacTed, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
14:01:56 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this JohnArwe', JohnArwe
14:02:06 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it
14:02:22 <Ruben> zakim, mute me
14:02:42 <Zakim> +Yves
14:02:58 <Zakim> Ruben should now be muted
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14:03:16 <MacTed> Zakim, who's noisy?
14:03:36 <cygri> cygri has joined #ldp
14:03:40 <Zakim> +??P19
14:03:48 <Zakim> MacTed, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (28%), ??P1 (48%), Arnaud (22%), ??P19 (82%)
14:03:50 <cygri> zakim, code?
14:03:59 <Zakim> +LeeF
14:03:59 <MacTed> Zakim, mute ??p0
14:04:01 <MacTed> Zakim, mute ??p1
14:04:03 <Zakim> +EricP
14:04:10 <Zakim> the conference code is 53794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), cygri
14:04:10 <MacTed> Zakim, mute ??p19
14:04:13 <Zakim> ??P0 should now be muted
14:04:15 <Zakim> ??P1 should now be muted
14:04:19 <Zakim> ??P19 should now be muted
14:04:27 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
14:04:40 <cygri> zakim, i'm with mhausenblas
14:04:42 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
14:04:48 <Zakim> -??P6
14:04:49 <Zakim> +??P28
14:04:56 <cygri> zakim, mkerrin is with mhausenblas
14:04:56 <Zakim> +mkerrin; got it
14:05:12 <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot
14:05:15 <Yves> for help
14:05:27 <Zakim> +??P6
14:05:37 <Arnaud> zakim, aabb is dret
14:05:37 <Zakim> +dret; got it
14:05:43 <Zakim> -??P28
14:05:51 <MacTed> Zakim, mute ??p6
14:05:54 <Zakim> ??P6 should now be muted
14:06:19 <Zakim> +??P28
14:06:24 <Zakim> -??P4
14:06:39 <Zakim> +??P4
14:06:51 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
14:06:51 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
14:06:52 <ghard> zakim, ??P4 is ghard
14:06:52 <Zakim> +ghard; got it
14:07:10 <MacTed> Zakim, mute ghard
14:07:10 <Zakim> ghard should now be muted
14:07:13 <JohnArwe> zakim, aacc is JohnArwe
14:07:13 <Zakim> +JohnArwe; got it
14:07:17 <MacTed> Zakim, umute ghard
14:07:17 <Zakim> I don't understand 'umute ghard', MacTed
14:07:20 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute ghard
14:07:20 <Zakim> ghard should no longer be muted
14:07:40 <MacTed> Zakim, who's noisy?
14:07:44 <JacekKopecky> zakim, ??P0 may be me
14:07:44 <Zakim> +JacekKopecky?; got it
14:07:50 <Zakim> MacTed, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Arnaud (9%), MacTed (25%), Yves (10%), ??P28 (24%)
14:07:56 <MacTed> Zakim, mute ??p28
14:07:56 <Zakim> ??P28 should now be muted
14:08:11 <JacekKopecky> zakim, mute me
14:08:11 <Zakim> JacekKopecky? should now be muted
14:08:30 <MacTed> Zakim, who's here?
14:08:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see JacekKopecky? (muted), ??P1 (muted), Ruben (muted), Arnaud, SteveS, dret, MacTed, AndyS, ??P11, JohnArwe, Yves, ??P19 (muted), LeeF, EricP, mhausenblas, ??P6
14:08:34 <Zakim> ... (muted), ??P28 (muted), ghard
14:08:34 <Zakim> mhausenblas has cygri, mkerrin
14:08:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see cygri, mkerrin, JacekKopecky, cgueret_work, Ruben, SteveS, krp, Zakim, RRSAgent, svillata, rgarcia, ghard, Arnaud, JohnArwe, LeeF, oberger, MacTed, AndyS, betehess,
14:08:37 <Zakim> ... achille-zappa, sandro, Yves, trackbot, ericP
14:09:20 <Zakim> -??P11
14:09:29 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute ??p1
14:09:29 <Zakim> ??P1 should no longer be muted
14:09:31 <Zakim> -??P19
14:09:31 <Yves> Arnaud: if you are not in the list of 'present' given by Zakim, please tell us
14:09:33 <Zakim> +??P11
14:09:38 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute ??p11
14:09:38 <Zakim> ??P11 was not muted, MacTed
14:09:41 <cgueret_work> zakim, ??p11 is me
14:09:41 <Zakim> +cgueret_work; got it
14:10:00 <MacTed> Zakim, who's here?
14:10:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see JacekKopecky (muted), ??P1, Ruben (muted), Arnaud, SteveS, dret, MacTed, AndyS, JohnArwe, Yves, LeeF, EricP, mhausenblas, ??P6 (muted), ??P28 (muted), ghard,
14:10:04 <Zakim> ... cgueret_work
14:10:04 <Zakim> mhausenblas has cygri, mkerrin
14:10:04 <Zakim> On IRC I see cygri, mkerrin, JacekKopecky, cgueret_work, Ruben, SteveS, krp, Zakim, RRSAgent, svillata, rgarcia, ghard, Arnaud, JohnArwe, LeeF, oberger, MacTed, AndyS, betehess,
14:10:05 <Zakim> ... achille-zappa, sandro, Yves, trackbot, ericP
14:10:07 <Zakim> +??P19
14:10:28 <rgarcia> zakim, ??P19 is me
14:10:28 <Zakim> +rgarcia; got it
14:10:33 <krp> zakim, ??p6 is me
14:10:33 <Zakim> +krp; got it
14:10:35 <Yves> Topic: last week minutes
14:10:49 <Yves> Arnaud: did people look at the minutes? objection to approve them?
14:11:04 <AndyS> +1 to the minutes
14:11:25 <Yves> Arnaud: we take minutes and the week later , after review, we approve the minutes
14:11:33 <svillata> Zakim, <svillata> has <P6>
14:11:34 <Zakim> sorry, svillata, I do not recognize a party named '<svillata>'
14:11:39 <Yves> RESOLUTION: last week minutes approved
14:11:47 <Zakim> -JacekKopecky
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14:11:51 <Zakim> + +1.615.891.aadd
14:11:52 <svillata> Zakim, svillata has ??P6
14:11:52 <Zakim> sorry, svillata, I do not recognize a party named 'svillata'
14:11:55 <cgueret_work> I was here but it's not recorded in the minutes :/
14:11:55 <JohnArwe> note that attendee list from last time is suspect; SteveS shown in log, but not captured up top, as 1 example.
14:12:10 <Yves> Arnaud: there is one action pending review on Sandro
14:12:11 <Zakim> - +1.615.891.aadd
14:12:14 <Yves> ACTION-2?
14:12:14 <trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Sandro Hawke to set up commonscribe -- due 2012-06-25 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:12:14 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/2
14:12:32 <Yves> Eric: no idea if it was completed
14:12:34 <cygri> q+
14:12:42 <Zakim> +??P0
14:12:52 <JacekKopecky> zakim, ??P0 is me
14:12:52 <Zakim> +JacekKopecky; got it
14:12:59 <cygri> it's here: https://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/
14:13:13 <Yves> Erik: Sandro sent an email saying it was setup
14:13:26 <Yves> ACTION-1?
14:13:26 <trackbot> ACTION-1 -- Eric Prud'hommeaux to ask sandro about how difficult it is to set up CommonScribe -- due 2012-06-25 -- OPEN
14:13:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/1
14:13:29 <JacekKopecky> zakim, ??P0 is not me
14:13:29 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P0 is not me', JacekKopecky
14:13:31 <Zakim> + +1.937.775.aaee
14:13:41 <cygri> q-
14:13:43 <Yves> close ACTION-1
14:13:43 <trackbot> ACTION-1 Ask sandro about how difficult it is to set up CommonScribe closed
14:13:43 <Zakim> +??P36
14:13:49 <Yves> ACTION-3?
14:13:49 <trackbot> ACTION-3 -- Arnaud Le Hors to create a wiki page to capture use cases and requirements -- due 2012-06-28 -- OPEN
14:13:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/3
14:13:50 <JacekKopecky> zakim, ??P36 is me
14:13:50 <Zakim> +JacekKopecky; got it
14:13:56 <Yves> close ACTION-3
14:13:56 <trackbot> ACTION-3 Create a wiki page to capture use cases and requirements closed
14:14:18 <svillata> Zachim, ??P6 is /me
14:14:25 <Yves> Topic: next meeting
14:14:28 <oberger> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Use_Cases_And_Requirements
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14:14:45 <svillata> Zakim, ??P6 is me
14:14:45 <Zakim> I already had ??P6 as krp, svillata
14:15:09 <svillata> Zakim, ??P1 is me
14:15:09 <Zakim> +svillata; got it
14:15:13 <Yves> Arnaud: next meeting is next monday, however we might have a summer schedule, as people take vacation
14:15:39 <LeeF> I think we should keep the normal schedule.
14:15:44 <rgarcia> +1 for summer schedule
14:15:44 <cgueret_work> +1 to keep
14:15:52 <svillata> +1 to keep
14:15:52 <ericP> +1 to slacking
14:15:56 <oberger> +1 summer schedule
14:16:07 <Ruben> +1 summer schedule
14:16:10 <cygri> +1 summer schedule
14:16:10 <ghard> +1 summer schedule
14:16:18 <oberger> (given that most are in northern hemisphere  ? ;)
14:17:47 <Yves> Arnaud: July 9 then every other week until end of august ?
14:17:52 <cygri> +1 to that
14:18:04 <krp> +1
14:18:07 <svillata> +1
14:18:13 <rgarcia> +1
14:18:19 <SteveS> +1 to Arnaud's proposed schedule
14:18:19 <ghard> +1 every other week
14:18:19 <Ruben> +1
14:18:28 <cgueret_work> +1 
14:18:30 <Yves> eric: missing one out of 3 is a sure way to be confused
14:19:08 <Yves> Arnaud: no objections?
14:19:09 <cgueret_work> can we do anything for the time?
14:19:14 <Yves> noone screaming, so 
14:19:16 <cgueret_work> earlier or later?
14:19:23 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
14:19:23 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
14:19:23 <Yves> RESOLUTION: July 9 then every other week until end of august
14:19:33 <cgueret_work> :)
14:19:34 <Yves> Topic: telcon time
14:19:43 <Yves> Arnaud: telcon time. earlier or later?
14:19:56 <Yves> it's 7am in California, so doing earlier would be difficult
14:20:03 <oberger> depends if summer siesta time ? ;)
14:20:37 <Yves> Arnaud: we tried a doodle with just 5 people, and even finding one slot was quite hard
14:20:52 <cgueret_work> ok
14:21:08 <Zakim> +??P40
14:21:15 <JacekKopecky> zakim, ??P40 is me
14:21:15 <Zakim> +JacekKopecky; got it
14:21:52 <Yves> Yves: let's continue with this time and see if it works for most people or if too inconvenient
14:22:10 <Yves> Arnaud: it is customary with a WG to start with a f2f
14:23:03 <Yves> there is a notification period for F2F (because of travel planning)
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14:23:58 <Yves> the Technical Plenary once a year, for 2012 it's here: http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/
14:24:12 <Yves> would people be able to attend that meeting?
14:24:42 <SteveS> +1 I "should" be able to get to tpac but would recommend a 3Q F2F meeting 1st
14:24:43 <JohnArwe> no known conflicts w TPAC for me
14:24:47 <svillata> should be able to go to TPAC
14:25:03 <ghard> Seems to work for me
14:25:07 <cgueret_work> +1
14:25:16 <Ruben> +1
14:25:22 <oberger> +1 probably
14:25:22 <antonis> +1
14:25:23 <rgarcia> no conflicts for me "right now"
14:25:24 <svillata> +1
14:25:30 <Yves> Erik: it's more up to the group to decide. at worst we can have a small group there
14:26:04 <Yves> SteveS: we could also do transatlantic f2f, with two locations
14:26:27 <ghard> Nice place. Was there for VLDB
14:26:34 <SteveS> was not me, was AndyS I believe
14:26:39 <AndyS> s/SteveS/AndyS/
14:27:28 <Yves> Arnaud: if we get a transatlantic presence, it should be east soact US to reduce the time diff
14:28:07 <Yves> SteveS: having the first f2f in 5 monthes is a bit late
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14:28:32 <Yves> Arnaud: the WG started right before summer, with lower attendance, so meeting in september while TPAC is in november...
14:29:05 <ericP> -1 to sept f2f
14:30:54 <AndyS> Notes on SPARQL Graph Store Protocol : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Jun/0030.html
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14:34:31 <Yves> AndyS: there are 3 protocols, issuing query, requests
14:35:18 <Yves> sparql update allows you to manipulate the graph store
14:35:43 <Yves> this is used for fined-grain graph control
14:35:54 <Yves> there is also bulk modification, like adding a graph store
14:37:01 <Yves> you can delete a graph
14:37:13 <Yves> the specification is just translating what HTTP says
14:37:25 <Zakim> +??P40
14:37:31 <JacekKopecky> zakim, ??P40 is me
14:37:31 <Zakim> +JacekKopecky; got it
14:37:36 <Yves> it defines POST of RDF data to add things to a graph
14:38:52 <Yves> you don't get hierarchy of containers, like stores of graph stores
14:39:30 <Yves> PATCH is proposed to mean a SPARQL update
14:40:55 <Yves> as in the first example, a URI can identify a graph in a graph store
14:41:30 <Yves> a more complex example is doing indirect graph identification, using ?graph=<uri of the names graph>
14:41:50 <ericP> <graphstore>?graph=http://foo.example/graph1
14:42:02 <Yves> POST to a graph means append, POST to a graph-store means create a graph
14:42:20 <cygri> q+
14:42:33 <Zakim> -JacekKopecky
14:42:47 <Yves> Arnaud: do you have comments on how it compares to the IBM submission?
14:42:57 <cygri> q+ to ask about uptake
14:43:20 <Yves> AndyS: the IBM submission has more complex things like what you put in containers
14:43:42 <Yves> in the SPARQL graph protocol, you only manipulate graphs in the graph-store
14:44:07 <Yves> there is only one case
14:44:12 <AndyS> ack cygri
14:44:12 <Zakim> cygri, you wanted to ask about uptake
14:44:26 <Zakim> -EricP
14:44:47 <Yves> cygri: how about implementations?
14:45:01 <cgueret_work> Redstore implements it too: http://www.aelius.com/njh/redstore/
14:45:23 <Yves> AndyS: ??? is implementing it.
14:45:32 <LeeF> s/???/Garlik
14:46:54 <cgueret_work> I am
14:46:58 <Yves> LeeF: difficult to figure out all implementations
14:47:00 <cgueret_work> but my mic does not work :/
14:47:03 <cgueret_work> works fine
14:47:15 <cgueret_work> sorry... :P
14:47:29 <Zakim> +EricP
14:48:01 <LeeF> We don't implement it all in Anzo but will be completing an implementation of it in the coming months
14:48:21 <cgueret_work> (I use RedStore for a graph-centric data management stack and the graph protocol works just fine in it)
14:49:00 <Yves> Topic: Annotea Protocol
14:49:01 <ericP> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/Annotea/User/Protocol Annotea Protocol
14:51:15 <ericP> -> http://www.w3.org/2012/Talks/0717-egp-API4KB/#%284%29 Linked Data API
14:51:24 <AndyS> Linked data API: http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/
14:52:12 <AndyS>  implementation: http://elda.googlecode.com/hg/deliver-elda/src/main/docs/index.html
14:53:00 <Yves> the main difference with LDBP is the link list (next/prev ones)
14:53:18 <Yves> provides random access in a big container
14:53:18 <SteveS> +q Was Annotea adopted? what happened to it after it was published?
14:53:21 <Zakim> +??P53
14:53:28 <JacekKopecky> zakim, ??P53 is me
14:53:28 <Zakim> +JacekKopecky; got it
14:53:43 <AndyS> app using LDA: http://environment.data.gov.uk/lab/bwq-web.html
14:53:47 <AndyS>  (and I'm watching the server stats :-)
14:53:57 <Yves> it's using URI templates
14:54:45 <Yves> short-string to predicate mapping
14:55:01 <AndyS> q+ to explain the interaction model
14:55:01 <ghard>  FYI: Virtuoso has some support for HTTP CRUD operations for graphs as well. Uses special endpoint /sparql-graph-crud
14:56:01 <Yves> EricP: annotea was mostly a demonstrator, paired with Amaya to show annotations
14:57:17 <MacTed> Zakim, who's noisy?
14:57:28 <Zakim> MacTed, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: LeeF (70%)
14:57:32 <MacTed> Zakim, mute LeeF
14:57:32 <Zakim> LeeF should now be muted
14:57:42 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
14:57:45 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
14:57:49 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
14:57:49 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
14:58:29 <Yves> EricP: it's just a random document, not a Team Note
14:58:55 <Zakim> -EricP
15:01:20 <Yves> Arnaud: scribe duties is a shared responsibility, so we will start a scribe list
15:01:35 <Yves> default order will be alphabetical list
15:01:39 <cgueret_work> +1 for alpha list :)
15:01:55 <Yves> next meeting in two weeks.
15:02:02 <Yves> ADJOURNED
15:02:06 <Zakim> -SteveS
15:02:07 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
15:02:07 <Zakim> -dret
15:02:09 <Zakim> -Ruben
15:02:09 <Zakim> -Yves
15:02:10 <Zakim> -Arnaud
15:02:12 <Ruben> Ruben has left #ldp
15:02:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/25-ldp-minutes.html Yves
15:02:15 <Zakim> -MacTed
15:02:17 <Zakim> -LeeF
15:02:19 <Zakim> -AndyS
15:02:21 <Zakim> -svillata
15:02:23 <Zakim> -rgarcia
15:02:25 <Zakim> -krp
15:02:28 <Zakim> -??P28
15:02:29 <Zakim> -ghard
15:02:33 <Zakim> - +1.937.775.aaee
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15:03:10 <cygri> yves, use commonscribe now? https://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/
15:03:11 <Zakim> -cgueret_work
15:03:25 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended
15:03:26 <Zakim> Attendees were +329331aaaa, Arnaud, +1.510.206.aabb, MacTed, +1.845.433.aacc, Ruben, AndyS, SteveS, Yves, LeeF, EricP, mhausenblas, cygri, mkerrin, dret, ghard, JohnArwe,
15:03:29 <Zakim> ... JacekKopecky, cgueret_work, rgarcia, krp, +1.615.891.aadd, +1.937.775.aaee, svillata
15:03:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/25-ldp-minutes.html Yves
15:04:08 <Arnaud> thanks Yves for scribing today
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