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14:53:42 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_(WCAG2ICT)10:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
14:53:43 <trackbot> Meeting: WCAG2ICT Task Force Teleconference
14:53:43 <trackbot> Date: 18 December 2012
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14:57:52 <Zakim> WAI_(WCAG2ICT)10:00AM has now started
14:57:59 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
14:58:14 <BBailey> zakim, i am bruce
14:58:14 <Zakim> ok, BBailey, I now associate you with Bruce_Bailey
14:58:53 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow_Weaver
14:59:11 <Zakim> +Peter_Korn
14:59:34 <andisnow> chair: Andi_Snow-Weaver
14:59:41 <Zakim> +??P9
14:59:59 <andisnow> zakim, ??P9 is Mike_Pluke
14:59:59 <Zakim> +Mike_Pluke; got it
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15:00:23 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:00:34 <andisnow> zakim, Microsoft has Alex_Li
15:00:35 <Zakim> +Alex_Li; got it
15:01:13 <Zakim> +??P15
15:01:33 <janina> zakim, ??P15 is Janina_Sajka
15:01:33 <Zakim> +Janina_Sajka; got it
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15:03:16 <Zakim> +Judy
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15:03:43 <Judy> zakim, who's here?
15:03:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see Bruce_Bailey, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Peter_Korn, Mike_Pluke, [Microsoft], Janina_Sajka, Judy
15:03:45 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has Alex_Li
15:03:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see Judy, Kiran_Kaja, janina, BBailey, Zakim, RRSAgent, andisnow, MichaelC, David, trackbot
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15:04:05 <Zakim> +Kiran_Kaja
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15:04:57 <korn_> Q+
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15:05:41 <andisnow> scribe: Andi_Snow-Weaver
15:06:01 <andisnow> topic: feedback request on the draft
15:06:21 <korn_> Q-
15:06:29 <andisnow> suggestion that we seek feedback on the term "set of software" for the last four SC
15:07:27 <Judy> For this Working Draft, the WCAG WG particularly seeks comments on:
15:07:27 <Judy> Key Terms defined in this document;
15:07:27 <Judy> Additional Guidance sections in this Working Draft.
15:07:27 <Judy> The focus of this review is on the “Additional Guidance” sections, which start with the words “Additional guidance when applying…” and which are visually indicated with blue boxes, rather than on the wording excerpted from other WCAG 2.0 documents.
15:07:50 <Mike_P> q+
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15:08:38 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
15:09:01 <andisnow> ack mike
15:09:27 <korn_> Q+
15:14:06 <andisnow> suggestion: "The Task Force has not yet developed guidance on how to apply four for of the A and AA success criteria to non-web software: SC x.y.z, ... All four of these share in common the concept that they apply in the web context when there are either "multiple web pages" or "a set of web pages" which share some common characteristic…."
15:15:34 <andisnow> "…Comments are invited proposing definitions for "a set of software" that matches the concepts of "set of web pages", as well as examples of any such "sets of software".  Furthermore, comments are invited regarding what it would mean for these four SCs to apply in to non-web software."
15:15:48 <andisnow> ack korn
15:16:04 <andisnow> scribenick: andisnow
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15:20:28 <andisnow> formal announcements specifying the type of feedback we are requesting have already gone out.
15:20:28 <Zakim> +[Oracle]
15:20:45 <korn> Zakim, Oracle has Peter_Korn
15:20:45 <Zakim> +Peter_Korn; got it
15:21:01 <Zakim> -Peter_Korn
15:22:30 <andisnow> could include this request about "set of software" in chaser notes - if we want to do that, we should make sure we list all of the items we want feedback on
15:23:00 <korn> q+
15:23:58 <korn> q-
15:24:18 <andisnow> should wait until after the holiday break to send such a chaser note - give time to think if there are any other topics we want to include - if send now, might get lost as people are focused.
15:25:56 <andisnow> action: Mike to put item on next year's agenda to consider whether we want to request feedback on "set of software" and any additional topics using a "chaser note"
15:25:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-86 - Put item on next year's agenda to consider whether we want to request feedback on "set of software" and any additional topics using a "chaser note" [on Mike Pluke - due 2012-12-25].
15:29:34 <andisnow> if we have an approach for conformance by then, could perhaps ask for feedback on the approach
15:29:58 <andisnow> topic: open comments on the first draft
15:33:38 <korn> zakim, who is talking?
15:33:50 <Zakim> korn, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Andi_Snow_Weaver (67%), [Microsoft] (49%)
15:34:49 <Zakim> -Kiran_Kaja
15:34:52 <Zakim> -[Oracle]
15:34:53 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
15:34:53 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
15:34:55 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
15:34:56 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow_Weaver
15:34:57 <Zakim> -Mike_Pluke
15:34:57 <Zakim> -Janina_Sajka
15:34:59 <Zakim> -Judy
15:34:59 <Zakim> WAI_(WCAG2ICT)10:00AM has ended
15:34:59 <Zakim> Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Peter_Korn, Mike_Pluke, Alex_Li, Janina_Sajka, Judy, Kiran_Kaja, David_MacDonald
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15:35:06 <andisnow> regrets: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loic_Martinez_Normand
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15:35:11 <andisnow> zakim, bye
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15:35:20 <andisnow> rrsagent, make minutes
15:35:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/12/18-wcag2ict-minutes.html andisnow
15:46:21 <andisnow> all have proposals except the two on conformance
15:48:19 <andisnow> should respond that we haven't addressed conformance yet, we plan to address conformance soon and will consider these comments at that time
15:49:09 <andisnow> rrsagent, make minutes
15:49:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/12/18-wcag2ict-minutes.html andisnow