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18:06:17 <janina> scribe: janina
18:06:29 <Judy> chair: judy
18:06:42 <janina> JB: Organizing to walk Bug Triage reported bugs
18:06:48 <Judy> bugwrangler: john
18:06:51 <Judy> zakim, take up item 1
18:06:51 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Agenda review; identify scribe." taken up [from Judy]
18:06:58 <Judy> agenda?
18:07:12 <janina> Janina will scribe ...
18:07:16 <janina> zakim, close item 1
18:07:16 <Zakim> agendum 1, Agenda review; identify scribe., closed
18:07:18 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
18:07:18 <Zakim> 2. Review and processing of non-alt-related pending text bugs [from Judy]
18:07:21 <janina> zakim, next item
18:07:21 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Review and processing of non-alt-related pending text bugs" taken up [from Judy]
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18:07:47 <Joshue108> zakim, code?
18:07:47 <Zakim> the conference code is 2119 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Joshue108
18:08:32 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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18:08:53 <janina> zakim, [ibcaller] is Joshue
18:08:53 <Zakim> sorry, janina, I do not recognize a party named '[ibcaller]'
18:09:17 <janina> zakim, [IPcaller] is Joshue
18:09:17 <Zakim> +Joshue; got it
18:10:10 <Joshue108> zakim, mute me
18:10:10 <Zakim> Joshue should now be muted
18:10:48 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9215
18:11:17 <janina> jb: Asks for webcam example conformant with WCAG 2
18:12:29 <janina> jb: Noting that one of the HTML editors, Robin, looking at the Sec. 4.8 & WCAG report, finds 4.8 not reality
18:13:07 <janina> jb: Perhaps our comment is that this example, plus all examples, should go into the separate, SF edited, alt doc
18:13:28 <janina> q+
18:14:29 <Judy> js: you don't know what's in the image coming via a webcam
18:14:38 <Judy> ...don't think that it fits in video
18:14:46 <JF> +1 to Janina's comment
18:15:04 <Judy> ...favor steve's document...
18:15:08 <Joshue108> http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/WAI/buggy.html
18:15:23 <janina> js: Suggesting SF's doc is best location
18:15:38 <janina> ack janina
18:18:01 <Judy> q+
18:18:05 <janina> jf: Suggests "example" unclear, is it an update every X seconds/minutes? That would be img
18:18:15 <janina> jf: Or is it stream to video element?
18:19:23 <janina> jb: Still think WCAG related examples should be collected under Techniques TF that Joshue Co-Facilitates
18:22:26 <janina> js: Suggest defer to 5.1
18:25:57 <janina> agreement to defer to 5.1, but need update on how WG process works for that
18:31:15 <Joshue108> zakim, unmute me
18:31:15 <Zakim> Joshue should no longer be muted
18:32:04 <Joshue108> zakim, mute me
18:32:04 <Zakim> Joshue should now be muted
18:32:55 <janina> We're marking "resolved," "later," "additional comments: Moving to SF's doc" What's that title??
18:33:06 <JF> http://dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/
18:33:24 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9216
18:34:00 <janina> jb: This one is a "captcha" example
18:34:13 <janina> agreement to do the same with this bug
18:36:04 <Judy> there is already an example in Steve's doc: http://dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/#sec13
18:36:05 <janina> Ah, we see that this is already in the Alt Text doc ...
18:37:27 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10642
18:37:50 <janina> No alt for Video key frame
18:42:31 <Joshue108> zakim, unmute me
18:42:31 <Zakim> Joshue should no longer be muted
18:43:43 <Zakim> -Joshue
18:48:14 <Judy> For bug 10642, we need a way to re-open and assign to the TF; seems blocked within bugzilla interface.
18:48:39 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13461
18:49:08 <janina> jb: We are identifying a need for better bug processing -- one that allows us to assign bugs/issues to the TF and track them apart from HTML-WG timelines
18:49:50 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13461
18:51:53 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13651
18:53:43 <janina> For 13651 we'd like to defer to 5.1
18:54:07 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13727
18:54:32 <janina> Thi is phrase or para with alternative graphical presentation
18:55:02 <janina> Discussed som, Dec 2011
18:55:45 <janina> For 13727 we like to defer to 5.1
18:55:59 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13428
18:56:23 <janina> This is about removing authoring guidance in Sec 4.8
18:56:44 <janina> We have provided new information, is now in progress
18:56:55 <janina> Currently in discussion with editors
18:57:58 <janina> For 13428 we reopened and note it's in process
18:58:14 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13728
18:58:32 <janina> Guidance for conformance checkers re alt
18:59:25 <janina> For 13728 we believe this is Meta Generator and need to verify that the agreed changes have been made
19:00:04 <janina> We need confirmation from Mike Smith
19:00:26 <Judy> ...that it has been implemented in the validator
19:01:03 <Zakim> -John_Foliot
19:01:35 <Zakim> -Judy
19:01:37 <Zakim> -Janina
19:01:37 <Zakim> WAI_PF(Text)1:00PM has ended
19:01:37 <Zakim> Attendees were Janina, Judy, John_Foliot, Joshue
19:01:41 <janina> zakim, bye
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19:01:49 <janina> rrsagent, make log public
19:01:55 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
19:01:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/12/11-text-minutes.html janina