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13:46:46 <Steven> Meeting: XForms Editorial Meeting, Amsterdam
13:46:51 <Steven> Present: Nick, Steven
13:47:31 <Steven> Topic: Work
13:47:32 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_2.0#External_JSON_values
13:47:47 <nvdbleek> referring to a local id: Nothing changes just use the id of the element e.g.: my-control
13:47:47 <nvdbleek> referring to an id in the outer form: prepend id with :: e.g.: ::my-control
13:48:44 <Steven> <dispatch targetid="my-control" ...
13:49:07 <Steven> <dispatch targetid="control::inner"
13:50:09 <Steven> Steven: Couldn't we just use one colon?
13:50:24 <Steven> <dispatch targetid="control:inner"
13:50:27 <nvdbleek> referring from the outer form inside an embedded form: use the id of the target element which embed the embedded form followed by the the :: and the id in the embedded form e.g.: my-wrapper::my-control
13:51:04 <Steven> Nick: targetid is then no longer an IDREF, but something FOrms-defined
13:51:22 <Steven> Nick: I used :: because it is what is used in several programming languages
13:51:27 <Steven> s/FO/Fo/
13:51:51 <Steven> Steven: A double colon means that there is no confusion with namespaces
13:52:20 <nvdbleek> but there is one problem when you have three levels of embedded forms, and you want to refer from the 3th level to the second level. Then you have to know the id of the second level embed to refer to it
13:52:23 <Steven> s/Work/Scoping IDs when embedding
13:52:37 <Steven> s/3th/3rd/
13:53:07 <Steven> Steven: Will you ever need to refer to that depth?
13:54:15 <nvdbleek> we could add a special keyword parent if it is really needed or .. then you can use : parent::id-of-control or ..::id-of-control
13:54:29 <nvdbleek> (..:: looks a bit wierd)
13:55:34 <nvdbleek> We specify the id resolving in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_2.0#Resolving_ID_References_in_XForms so it would be easy to support this in the specification
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14:14:27 <nvdbleek> s/rrsagagent, make minutes//
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