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WCAG2ICT Task Force Teleconference

16 Nov 2012

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Attendees

Present
Gregg_Vanderheiden, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Janina, Mike_Pluke, MaryJo, Loic_Martinez_Normand, Alex_Li, Kiran_Kaja, Judy, David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Michael_Cooper
Regrets
Peter_Korn
Chair
Andi_Snow-Weaver
Scribe
Mary_Jo_Mueller

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 16 November 2012

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Set of software definition

<Andi> current draft definition of "set of software": http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag2ict-tf/2012Nov/0024.html

<Andi> https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/cross-cutting-issues-and-notes/remaining-3-scs

A suite of applications that has no explicit method to go back and forth between the applications is not considered a set.

Clicking on a document when you're in one program and that causes another program to launch would not be a set.

To make an application a set, in each of the applications there needs to be a menu item that lets you go to a different program.

We need to make it clear that applications aren't required to implement this.

Adding bi-directionality is good, the menu items to navigate to the other applications has to be inclusive of all of the applications in the set, and the menu is available in each of the applications in the set.

Consider adding that if there is any ambiguity, it is not a set.

This isn't a definition, but an interpretation. However, we need to be careful on where we put the note about automatically meeting the success criteria - should go on each of the SC that 'set of software' is used.

Consider better defining the interlinking of the applications that make it a set. Sibling applications needs to have the interlinking - not just a parent application.

OpenOffice does not meet this definition of a set, so would automatically meet these provisions.

Glossary survey

<Andi> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/NOV152012/results

We can't come to consensus on this since there were only 3 responders to the survey so far.

Assistive technology: When you go outside of the Web domain, the dependency on the term 'user agent' doesn't seem to work.

It really should relate more to the ability to access information from the operating system using accessibility services.

<Andi> M376 uses this definition of AT: hardware or software added to, connected to, or incorporated within, a system that increases accessibility for an individual

<greggvanderheiden> hardware or software added to, connected to, or incorporated within, a system that increases accessibility for an individual that go beyond those offered by mainstream ict

<greggvanderheiden> : hardware or software added to, connected to, or incorporated within, a system that increases accessibility for an individual that goes beyond the functionality offered by mainstream ict

<greggvanderheiden> hardware or software added to, connected to, or incorporated within, a system that increases accessibility for an individual that goes beyond the functionality offered by mainstream ict

<Loic> M376 definition: hardware or software added to, connected to, or incorporated within, a system that increases accessibility for an individual

<Andi> M376 uses this definition of AT: hardware or software added to, connected to, or incorporated within, a system that increases accessibility for an individual

<Andi> hardware or software THAT CAN BE added to, connected to, or incorporated within, a system that increases accessibility for an individual

<Mike_P> +1

<Loic> +1 to Andi's change

Discussion on closed and how it relates to the AT definition. ICT is closed if it is closed to different types of AT.

doc attached at the bottom of this page: https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/home/introduction-to-wcag2ict-application-note/closed-functionality is how M376 is treating closed products.

Changes of context definition

https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/NOV152012/results#xq2

<greggvanderheiden> interaction context anyone?

<Andi> ack ]

WCAG does have a definition of 'viewport', so we could use that term in this definition.

However, a 'viewport' is very narrow in its definition.

As viewport is defined, it is any user interface object present content so it could be a single textbox.

So 'viewport' is not a good term to use.

<greggvanderheiden> https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/cross-cutting-issues-and-notes/remaining-3-scs

Need task force members to look at the content in the above link and comment on it. Send comments to Gregg.

<BBailey> thanks

The survey on these definitions will remain open for the next meeting.

<Andi> we will meet Tuesday but not Friday of next week

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Summary of Action Items

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Present: Gregg_Vanderheiden Andi_Snow_Weaver Janina Mike_Pluke MaryJo Loic_Martinez_Normand Alex_Li Kiran_Kaja Judy David_MacDonald Bruce_Bailey Michael_Cooper
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