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16:46:07 <Joshue108> zakim, this will be 9224
16:46:07 <Zakim> ok, Joshue108; I see WAI_HTML TT()11:30AM scheduled to start 16 minutes ago
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16:46:33 <Joshue108> Meeting: HTML Techs Task Force
16:46:38 <Joshue108> Chair: Joshue
16:48:50 <Joshue108> agenda + review the completed ARIA techniques and decided that several are ready for review by the wider group, you can see the updated list and the first tranche of techniques that we feel are ready, or very nearly ready. [1]
16:48:50 <Joshue108> [1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/ARIA
16:49:10 <Joshue108> agenda + Discuss what techniques should be released to the wider group and when (most likely post WCAG2ICT release)
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16:58:13 <Joshue108> zakim, [IPcaller] is Joshue
16:58:13 <Zakim> +Joshue; got it
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17:04:39 <Joshue108> zakim, +49 * is Detlev
17:04:39 <Zakim> I don't understand '+49 * is Detlev', Joshue108
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17:07:53 <Joshue108> zakim,  ??P0 is Marc
17:07:53 <Zakim> +Marc; got it
17:08:19 <Joshue108> zakim,  ??P0 is Loretta
17:08:19 <Zakim> I already had ??P0 as Marc, Joshue108
17:08:48 <Loretta> zakim, who is here?
17:08:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see Joshue, +49.403.17.aaaa, Marc_Johlic, Marc
17:08:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see marcjohlic, Loretta, Detlev, RRSAgent, Joshue108, Zakim
17:09:08 <Loretta> zakim, Marc is Loretta
17:09:08 <Zakim> +Loretta; got it
17:09:32 <Joshue108> zakim, .aaaa is Detlev
17:09:32 <Zakim> sorry, Joshue108, I do not recognize a party named '.aaaa'
17:09:43 <Joshue108> zakim, +49.403.17.aaaa is Detlev
17:09:43 <Zakim> +Detlev; got it
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17:10:54 <Joshue108> Scribenick: Detlev
17:11:09 <Joshue108> zakim, take up item 1
17:11:09 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Update from TPAC" taken up [from Joshue108]
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17:12:30 <Detlev_> Sorry, I lost the connection, now back - need I register as scribe again?
17:12:59 <Detlev_> January: techniques will be released to wider group
17:13:06 <Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/ARIA
17:13:32 <Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labeledby_for_link_purpose
17:15:28 <Detlev_> Loretta: we should update techniques with status info
17:15:54 <Detlev_> There is a testing page for the link purpose technique: http://3needs.org/en/testing/code/aria-labelledby-for-link-purpose+tabindex.html
17:16:11 <Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labeledby_for_link_purpose
17:17:27 <Zakim> -Loretta
17:18:55 <Detlev_> Action detlev: add user agent notes to wiki
17:20:01 <Detlev_> Action Detlev: check for survey results for link purpose technique, implement changes if any were suggested
17:20:37 <Joshue108> Loretta, I've just pinged you with the ARIA URL mappings doc that David MacD drew up at TPAC
17:21:01 <Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_to_concatenate_a_label_from_several_text_nodes
17:21:06 <Joshue108> This was surveyed
17:22:57 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:25:34 <Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/ARIA
17:25:49 <Detlev_> Detlev Aria-describedby technique: http://3needs.org/en/testing/code/aria-describedby-1.html
17:25:54 <Joshue108> zakim, [IPcaller is Adam]
17:25:54 <Zakim> +Adam]; got it
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17:27:44 <Detlev_> action Detlev: look whether to include the aria-describedby example in one of the existing terchniques
17:28:02 <Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labeledby_for_link_purpose
17:28:20 <Joshue108> Did you get feedback from the TF?
17:28:24 <adam> adam is scribe
17:28:39 <Joshue108> Scribenick: Adam
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17:29:16 <adam> detlev: we have discussed this previously, will look for comments
17:29:31 <adam> joshua: update aria wiki to track progress
17:30:03 <adam> detlev: will tie up current ones before new ones
17:31:21 <adam> detlev: invisible label tech can go out
17:32:24 <adam> detlev: second 3.3.2 tech - drop second example
17:32:30 <Detlev_> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_to_concatenate_a_label_from_several_text_nodes
17:34:45 <adam> detlev: describedby tech - integrate with other examples
17:35:01 <adam> detlev: link purpose tech is ready for review
17:35:58 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:36:19 <Loretta> zaki, IPCaller is Loretta
17:36:24 <Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-label_for_link_purpose
17:36:30 <Loretta> zakim, IPCaller is purpose
17:36:30 <Zakim> +purpose; got it
17:36:44 <Loretta> zakim, purpose is Loretta
17:36:44 <Zakim> +Loretta; got it
17:37:20 <adam> marc: aria-label for link purpose - will see if edits done, if so is ready for review
17:39:19 <Joshue108> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_ARIA_role_of_alert_for_Error_Feedback_in_Forms
17:39:32 <Joshue108> Who did this one?
17:41:51 <adam> joshua: is "role of alert for error feedback" ready for review?
17:44:59 <adam> loretta, adam: activedescendant deemd not relevant for 2.4.3
17:45:15 <adam> adam: will look for email discussion on that issue
17:46:54 <adam> detlev: use case - search input with navigation and selection list
17:47:30 <adam>     An example of keyboard navigation that is not the sequential navigation addressed by this Success Criterion is using arrow key navigation to traverse a tree component. The user can use the up and down arrow keys to move from tree node to tree node. Pressing the right arrow key may expand a node, then using the down arrow key, will move into the newly expanded nodes. This navigation sequence follows the expected sequence for a tree control - as[CUT]
17:48:45 <adam> loretta: in a widget, you can either navigate with focus or arrows (while focus stays in the main element)
17:49:13 <adam> cont: "    This navigation sequence follows the expected sequence for a tree control - as additional items get expanded or collapsed, they are added or removed from the navigation sequence.""
17:49:53 <Joshue108> s/Joshua/Joshue
17:51:30 <adam> activedescendant not relevant to 2.4.3 - but will combine with 4.1.2
17:54:15 <adam> activedescendant may be covered in 2.1.1 (not 100% sure)
17:55:54 <adam> will place the a-d tech in 2.4.3 just for reference - it may ot end up there in the end
17:57:04 <adam> marc: can take long text alternative 1.1.1
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17:59:45 <Zakim> -Adam]
17:59:46 <Zakim> -Loretta
17:59:46 <Zakim> -Detlev
17:59:50 <Zakim> -Joshue
17:59:52 <Zakim> WAI_HTML TT()11:30AM has ended
17:59:52 <Zakim> Attendees were Joshue, Marc_Johlic, Loretta, Detlev, Adam]
18:00:04 <Joshue108> rrsagent, draft minutes
18:00:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/12-html-techs-tf-minutes.html Joshue108
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