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14:00:33 <Zakim> +Norm
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14:01:11 <Norm> Meeting: XML Processing Model WG
14:01:11 <Norm> Date: 18 Oct 2012
14:01:11 <Norm> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2012/10/18-agenda
14:01:11 <Norm> Meeting: 222
14:01:11 <Norm> Chair: Norm
14:01:11 <Norm> Scribe: Norm
14:01:12 <Norm> ScribeNick: norm
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14:01:27 <Norm> zakim, ??P13 is Henry
14:01:27 <Zakim> +Henry; got it
14:01:33 <Norm> zakim, henry is ht
14:01:33 <Zakim> +ht; got it
14:01:36 <Norm> zakim, ht holds alexmilowski
14:01:36 <Zakim> +alexmilowski; got it
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14:01:39 <Norm> zakim, who's here?
14:01:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see Norm, ht
14:01:40 <Zakim> ht has alexmilowski
14:01:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see ht, alexmilowski, RRSAgent, Zakim, Norm, liam
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14:03:57 <Norm> zakim, who's here?
14:03:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see Norm, ht
14:03:58 <Zakim> ht has alex
14:03:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see caribou, ht, alexmilowski, RRSAgent, Zakim, Norm, liam
14:04:02 <Norm> Regrets: Vojtech, Cornelia
14:04:15 <Norm> Present: Norm, Henry, Alex, Jim
14:05:06 <Zakim> + +1.778.440.aaaa
14:05:22 <Norm> zakim, aaaa is Murray
14:05:22 <Zakim> +Murray; got it
14:05:28 <Norm> Present: Norm, Henry, Alex, Jim, Murray
14:05:50 <Zakim> + +420.6.026.9.aabb
14:06:12 <Norm> zakim, aabb is Jim
14:06:12 <Zakim> +Jim; got it
14:06:15 <Norm> zakim, who's here?
14:06:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see Norm, ht, Murray, Jim
14:06:16 <Zakim> ht has alex
14:06:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see caribou, ht, alexmilowski, RRSAgent, Zakim, Norm, liam
14:06:44 <Norm> Topic: Accept this agenda?
14:06:44 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2012/10/18-agenda
14:07:04 <Norm> Accepted.
14:07:08 <Norm> Topic: Accept minutes from the previous meeting?
14:07:08 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2012/10/11-minutes
14:07:27 <Norm> Accepted.
14:07:33 <Norm> Topic: Next meeting: telcon 25 Oct? F2F?
14:08:14 <Norm> We'll skip 25 Oct and meet at the f2f.
14:08:59 <Norm> Jim: Will we have good enough wifi to do VOIP at the f2f
14:09:01 <Norm> Norm: Maybe.
14:09:25 <Norm> Topic: Review of action items
14:09:33 <Norm> No progress reported *sad panda*
14:09:39 <Norm> Topic: Agenda prep for f2f
14:10:12 <Norm> Norm: Finishing up the processor profiles doc, the new requirements doc, and any step notes
14:10:51 <Norm> Norm: We've got a few proposals on the table: fixing parameters and binary (or non-XML) in pipelines
14:11:00 <Norm> Norm: I think working through those would be good.
14:11:17 <Norm> Norm: Any other suggestions?
14:11:36 <Norm> Jim: If we can leave TPAC with a requirements document that we can work on by telcon, then I think that would be declaring vicory
14:11:45 <Norm> Jim: It would be even better if we could publish the zip note.
14:12:28 <Norm> ACTION: Norm to ask cmsmcq to see if he'll be at TPAC and might meet with us
14:13:15 <Norm> Jim: Can we also look at the test suite again?
14:13:29 <Norm> Norm: Oh, indeed. And we should run through the public comments.
14:14:36 <Norm> Jim: There's someone who's made a bunch of comments about zip and unzip. I need about an hour to review those comments.
14:15:10 <Norm> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xproc-dev/2012Jan/0018.html
14:15:30 <Norm> Jim: I'll try to update the doc this week.
14:16:36 <Norm> Henry: Have we given up officially on a compact syntax? I don't have a brief for it, but I think we need to be happy with that as a decision that we've made.
14:17:18 <Norm> Norm: I'm happy to leave that hanging at least through the f2f.
14:19:01 <Norm> Alex: In the minutes last week, there was something about how we're going to evolve the steps. A registry for example.
14:19:11 <Norm> ...Separating the steps that we have from the language itself.
14:19:40 <alexmilowski> "JF: Do we need some discussion before we make this more specific?
14:19:40 <alexmilowski> AM: Yes, I think email discussion is needed"
14:19:43 <alexmilowski> That's what we said...
14:19:57 <Norm> Henry: I'm really quite interested in exploring of the idea of not having a separate spec but having a step registry
14:20:35 <Norm> ...Making it a little bit more like the IANA registry for media types. Make it possible to publish a document that documents a step and registers it.
14:21:02 <Norm> Norm: Sure. The exproc.org site and the wiki were kind of supposed to go that way but haven't been very successful.
14:21:29 <alexmilowski> We'll keep our jobs forever ...
14:21:30 <Norm> Henry: Successful or not, they don't have any normative force. We'd have to decide how much normative force we want them to have.
14:21:58 <Norm> Murray: I'm wondering about if XProc wants to say anything in relation to micro XML.
14:22:10 <Norm> Norm: Can you elaborate a little?
14:22:33 <Norm> Murray: I think we might say that XProc can process micro XML.
14:22:43 <Norm> Norm: I thought micro XML documents were XML 1.0 documents, but we could explicitly say it.
14:24:47 <Norm> Alex: I'm goign to try to get my step categorization action item done, that would be something to review.
14:24:51 <Norm> s/goign/going/
14:25:04 <Norm> Topic: Any other business?
14:25:09 <Norm> None heard.
14:25:30 <Norm> Adjourned.
14:25:32 <alexmilowski> 1.0 requirements/solutions use cases
14:25:33 <Norm> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:25:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/18-xproc-minutes.html Norm
14:25:34 <Zakim> -Jim
14:25:35 <Zakim> -Murray
14:25:36 <alexmilowski> …not the categorizations
14:25:41 <Norm> oops, sorry alex
14:25:45 <alexmilowski> No problem
14:25:46 <Zakim> -Norm
14:25:48 <Zakim> -ht
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14:25:49 <Zakim> Attendees were Norm, alexmilowski, alex, +1.778.440.aaaa, Murray, +420.6.026.9.aabb, Jim
14:25:54 <Norm> you were awfully faint :-)
14:26:03 <alexmilowski> Yeah… Henry uses a headset
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