13:59:51 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #ldp
13:59:51 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/10/15-ldp-irc
13:59:51 <sandro> trackbot, start meeting
13:59:53 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
13:59:53 <Zakim> Zakim has joined #ldp
13:59:55 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
13:59:55 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started
13:59:56 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:59:56 <trackbot> Date: 15 October 2012
13:59:58 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:00:00 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
14:00:00 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started
14:00:01 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:00:01 <trackbot> Date: 15 October 2012
14:00:06 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the call?
14:00:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see +329331aaaa, +1.408.996.aabb, [IBM], Sandro
14:00:13 <Ruben> zakim, aaaa is me
14:00:13 <Zakim> +Ruben; got it
14:00:17 <W300C> W300C has joined #ldp
14:00:23 <Arnaud> zakim, aabb is me
14:00:23 <Zakim> +Arnaud; got it
14:00:31 <Ashok_Malhotra> Ashok_Malhotra has joined #ldp
14:00:32 <Zakim> +??P18
14:00:38 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p18 is me
14:00:38 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
14:00:46 <W300C> W300C has left #ldp
14:00:51 <SteveS> zakim, [IBM] is me
14:00:51 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it
14:00:52 <Zakim> +??P19
14:01:00 <Zakim> + +1.510.698.aacc
14:01:03 <krp> zakim, ??P19 is me
14:01:03 <Zakim> +krp; got it
14:01:38 <bblfish> zakim, aacc is me
14:01:39 <Zakim> +bblfish; got it
14:01:49 <Zakim> + +1.845.433.aadd
14:01:54 <Zakim> + +1.707.861.aaee
14:01:57 <Zakim> +??P26
14:02:01 <gavinc> Zakim, aaee is me
14:02:01 <Zakim> +gavinc; got it
14:02:12 <svillata> Zakim, ??P26 is me
14:02:12 <Zakim> +svillata; got it
14:02:22 <Zakim> + +1.937.775.aaff
14:02:32 <Kalpa> zakim, aaff is me
14:02:32 <Zakim> +Kalpa; got it
14:02:35 <nmihindu> nmihindu has joined #ldp
14:02:48 <rgarcia> rgarcia has joined #ldp
14:03:20 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
14:03:40 <Zakim> + +44.117.370.aagg
14:03:57 <Zakim> +??P40
14:04:00 <Zakim> + +1.617.324.aahh
14:04:01 <stevebattle> zakim, aagg is me
14:04:02 <Zakim> +stevebattle; got it
14:04:08 <bblfish> zakim, who is here?
14:04:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ruben, Arnaud, SteveS, Sandro, BartvanLeeuwen, krp, bblfish, +1.845.433.aadd, gavinc, svillata, Kalpa, Ashok_Malhotra, stevebattle, ??P40, +1.617.324.aahh
14:04:10 <oberger> Zakim, ??P40 is me
14:04:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see rgarcia, nmihindu, Ashok_Malhotra, Zakim, RRSAgent, gavinc, krp, BartvanLeeuwen, Ruben, svillata, Kalpa, Arnaud, SteveS, betehess, MacTed, sandro, mhausenblas,
14:04:12 <Zakim> ... bblfish, stevebattle, oberger, trackbot, Yves
14:04:12 <Zakim> +oberger; got it
14:04:20 <Zakim> +??P37
14:04:27 <Zakim> + +1.781.273.aaii
14:04:37 <MacTed> Zakim, aaii is OpenLink_Software
14:04:37 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software; got it
14:04:40 <rgarcia> zakim, ??P37 is me
14:04:40 <Zakim> +rgarcia; got it
14:04:47 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
14:04:47 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
14:04:49 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
14:04:49 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
14:05:44 <Zakim> +??P44
14:06:15 <MacTed> MacTed has changed the topic to: Linked Data Platform Working Group -- http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/ -- current agenda http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2012.10.15
14:06:24 <nmihindu> zakim, ??P44 is me
14:06:24 <Zakim> +nmihindu; got it
14:07:00 <SteveS> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Scribes
14:07:01 <Zakim> + +3539149aajj
14:07:08 <MacTed> Zakim, who's here?
14:07:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see +3539149aajj, Ruben, Arnaud, SteveS, Sandro, BartvanLeeuwen, krp, bblfish, +1.845.433.aadd, gavinc, svillata, Kalpa, Ashok_Malhotra, stevebattle, oberger, Yves,
14:07:12 <Zakim> ... rgarcia, MacTed (muted), nmihindu
14:07:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see rgarcia, nmihindu, Ashok_Malhotra, Zakim, RRSAgent, gavinc, krp, BartvanLeeuwen, Ruben, svillata, Kalpa, Arnaud, SteveS, betehess, MacTed, sandro, mhausenblas,
14:07:12 <Zakim> ... bblfish, stevebattle, oberger, trackbot, Yves
14:07:17 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aajj is me
14:07:18 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it
14:07:24 <BartvanLeeuwen> scribe: BartvanLeeuwen
14:07:34 <MacTed> Zakim, who's noisy?
14:07:45 <Zakim> MacTed, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Arnaud (80%), BartvanLeeuwen (40%)
14:07:54 <BartvanLeeuwen> topic: last week minutes
14:07:58 <mhausenblas> +1
14:08:01 <Zakim> + +44.208.573.aakk
14:08:07 <bblfish> speaking about aproving http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/2012-10-08
14:08:14 <bblfish> Topic: Approving minutes
14:08:29 <bblfish> ACTION: minutes approved
14:08:29 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find minutes. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/users>.
14:09:33 <BartvanLeeuwen> Topic: F2F Lyon
14:09:48 <BartvanLeeuwen> please register
14:10:27 <BartvanLeeuwen> tomorrow ends low fee period
14:10:35 <bblfish> how do I say action approved
14:10:36 <bblfish> ?
14:10:53 <gavinc> It wasn't an action
14:11:08 <gavinc> RESOLVED: Approve Minutes 2012-10-08
14:11:12 <bblfish> that's it
14:11:18 <BartvanLeeuwen> Topic: Issue-8
14:11:30 <gavinc> ISSUE-8?
14:11:30 <trackbot> ISSUE-8 -- Better define or just not use the "Basic profile" terminology -- pending review
14:11:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/8
14:12:12 <mhausenblas> +1 to the proposal
14:12:12 <BartvanLeeuwen> arnaud: anybody disagrees ?
14:12:13 <gavinc> Is the proposal in the agenda?
14:12:20 <SteveS> +1 for spec name of LDP to match WG name
14:12:32 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
14:12:32 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
14:12:32 <JohnArwe> JohnArwe has joined #ldp
14:12:35 <oberger> "Meeting of 8 October proposed to resolve ISSUE-8 Removing Profile by adopting "Linked Data Platform" as the name of our specification. We need to close this issue so that the draft can be updated accordingly prior to publication. "
14:12:42 <SteveS> PROPOSED: LDP = Linked Data Platform for specification name, removing LDBP
14:12:52 <MacTed> +1
14:12:54 <krp> +1
14:12:54 <mhausenblas> +1
14:12:57 <sandro> +1
14:12:57 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
14:12:57 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
14:12:58 <stevebattle> +1
14:12:58 <oberger> +1
14:13:01 <rgarcia> +1
14:13:02 <gavinc> +0
14:13:03 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
14:13:04 <bblfish> +1
14:13:09 <JohnArwe> +1
14:13:12 <Arnaud> +1
14:13:18 <AndyS> AndyS has joined #ldp
14:13:18 <nmihindu> +1
14:13:35 <svillata> +1
14:13:38 <JohnArwe> zakim, who's on the phone?
14:13:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, +44.208.573.aakk, Ruben, Arnaud, SteveS, Sandro, BartvanLeeuwen, krp, bblfish, +1.845.433.aadd, gavinc, svillata, Kalpa, Ashok_Malhotra,
14:13:42 <Zakim> ... stevebattle, oberger, Yves, rgarcia, MacTed (muted), nmihindu
14:13:46 <JohnArwe> zakim, aadd is me
14:13:46 <Zakim> +JohnArwe; got it
14:14:03 <BartvanLeeuwen> RESOLVED: LDP = Linked Data Platform for specification name, removing LDBP
14:14:16 <oberger> what about resources and containers names ?
14:14:59 <BartvanLeeuwen> Topic: Open Actions
14:15:04 <gavinc> ACTION-6?
14:15:04 <trackbot> ACTION-6 -- Michael Hausenblas to review SDshare -- due 2012-09-28 -- OPEN
14:15:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/6
14:15:47 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/community/sdshare/
14:15:52 <gavinc> mhausenblas: Haven't written it up, but I have talked with the community group about it.
14:16:11 <BartvanLeeuwen> mhausenblas: I will report to mailing list, new CG is formed, to get SDShare into next level
14:17:12 <BartvanLeeuwen> mhausenblas, SDShare will not overlap LDP, its complementary, SDShare / LDP should play nice together, but no hard dependencies
14:17:19 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:17:26 <AndyS> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:17:26 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
14:17:51 <JohnArwe> zakim, who's making noise?
14:18:01 <MacTed> Zakim, mute AndyS
14:18:01 <Zakim> AndyS should now be muted
14:18:02 <Zakim> JohnArwe, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Arnaud (79%), JohnArwe (4%), AndyS (54%)
14:18:03 <BartvanLeeuwen> topic: Issues
14:18:07 <AndyS> zakim, mute me
14:18:07 <Zakim> AndyS was already muted, AndyS
14:18:11 <MacTed> :-)
14:18:30 <BartvanLeeuwen> Issue-22?
14:18:30 <trackbot> ISSUE-22 -- Need to normatively reference and recommend JSON-LD -- raised
14:18:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/22
14:18:39 <BartvanLeeuwen> topic: Issue-22
14:18:50 <mhausenblas> q+ to ask re JSON-LD
14:19:12 <BartvanLeeuwen> who was that ?
14:19:33 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
14:19:33 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
14:20:06 <Arnaud> q?
14:20:14 <mhausenblas> Michael: I'm not a huge fan of doing that, tbh would prefer something simple such as http://www.w3.org/wiki/JTriples
14:20:17 <mhausenblas> q-
14:20:21 <mhausenblas> q?
14:21:40 <bblfish> reopen Issue-22
14:21:40 <trackbot> ISSUE-22 Need to normatively reference and recommend JSON-LD re-opened
14:22:00 <JohnArwe> I'm willing to try and keep up with the decisions using the web api in real time.
14:22:07 <BartvanLeeuwen> topic: opening Issue-23
14:22:19 <BartvanLeeuwen> topic: opening Issue-24
14:22:23 <BartvanLeeuwen> Issue-24?
14:22:23 <trackbot> ISSUE-24 -- Should DELETED resources remain deleted? -- raised
14:22:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/24
14:23:03 <gavinc> Should DELETE result in 410s forever?
14:23:58 <JohnArwe> seems like we are function creeping from "should we open" into a full discussion on the candidate issue
14:24:23 <oberger> let's open it
14:24:23 <mhausenblas> -1
14:24:44 <oberger> cause there's an argument ongoing -> on the ML ;)
14:25:31 <stevebattle> I think the spec is unclear - it should explcictly refer to the cool URIs advice, but not prescribe one way or t'other.
14:25:36 <MacTed> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/24
14:25:46 <gavinc>  4.5.1 BPR servers must remove the resource identified by the Request-URI. After a successful HTTP DELETE, a subsequent HTTP GET on the same Request-URI must result in a 404 (Not found) or 410 (Gone) status code, until another resource is created or associated with the same Request-URI.
14:26:12 <Arnaud> q?
14:28:12 <mhausenblas> +1 to open it and add a non-normative reference to cool URIs, etc. to make clear that apps should handle it
14:28:39 <MacTed> MacTed: spec seems clear enough. I see use cases where location-based URIs may be reused to name entirely different resources -- i.e., when locations change
14:29:19 <JohnArwe> q+
14:29:21 <oberger> Is there a reference to CoolURIs in the specs ? Shouldn't there be ?
14:29:30 <Ruben> Ruben has joined #ldp
14:29:40 <MacTed> MacTed: the text of the Issue page seems to raise 4 different concerns.  I suggest that it be broken up more...
14:30:29 <bblfish> Not trying to be hard on Ruben, just trying to clarify how quickly one should open issues
14:30:41 <Ruben> No problem :)
14:30:44 <bblfish> process is working +1
14:31:04 <stevebattle> I think we should allow time for email discussion.
14:31:09 <Ruben> I'm willing to discuss on the mailing list
14:31:54 <oberger> Is there a reference to CoolURIs in the specs ? Shouldn't there be ?
14:32:06 <oberger> (repeating myself ? ;-)
14:32:26 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Open ISSUE-24
14:32:58 <stevebattle> +1
14:33:35 <Ruben> I will.
14:33:42 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
14:33:46 <mhausenblas> Michael: Thanks a lot, Ruben!
14:33:50 <Arnaud> +1
14:33:58 <krp> +1
14:34:03 <MacTed> +1
14:34:20 <BartvanLeeuwen> RESOLVED:  Open ISSUE-24
14:34:22 <BartvanLeeuwen> reopen Issue-24
14:34:22 <trackbot> ISSUE-24 Should DELETED resources remain deleted? re-opened
14:34:33 <JohnArwe> q-
14:35:04 <BartvanLeeuwen> topic: Specification
14:35:21 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: where are we in timeline, what is the shape for the F2F
14:35:58 <BartvanLeeuwen> SteveS: pulled the open issues in the current draft, apart from todays issues
14:36:01 <mhausenblas> q?
14:36:39 <mhausenblas> q+ to propose a process re FPWD
14:36:41 <mhausenblas> q?
14:36:44 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: Next call ( 22-10 ) spec should be ready for FPWD
14:37:25 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: To consider the current ED as ready for review by WG
14:37:35 <mhausenblas> q?
14:37:36 <BartvanLeeuwen> SteveS: Spec could be done by tomorrow
14:37:55 <mhausenblas> ack me
14:37:55 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to propose a process re FPWD
14:39:05 <BartvanLeeuwen> mhausenblas: we should appoint 2 / 3 volunteers for review asap
14:39:25 <AndyS> This is FPWD -- the barrier need not be very high.  "Publish early, publish often"
14:40:41 <mhausenblas> Michael: I agree AndyS - I'm just trying to play it safe ;)
14:40:58 <gavinc> +1 I support publishing what we have as a FPWD ;)
14:41:01 <SteveS> For what it is worth, this member submission (mostly the same words) has been public since April 2nd
14:41:19 <oberger> +1 SteveS
14:41:37 <oberger> let's see what the community thinks about it
14:41:51 <Arnaud> q?
14:42:01 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: SteveS will report when the spec is ready, everybody has chance to next meeting to support it.
14:42:12 <BartvanLeeuwen> Topic: Use cases and requirements
14:43:06 <BartvanLeeuwen> stevebattle: Close outstanding issue by next monday, week later first draft ready
14:43:20 <BartvanLeeuwen> stevebattle, good discussion about Issue-20 on the list
14:43:57 <bblfish> Issue-20?
14:43:57 <trackbot> ISSUE-20 -- Identifying and naming POSTed resources -- open
14:43:57 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/20
14:44:05 <Zakim> -oberger
14:44:29 <AndyS> I have quoted the spec text!
14:44:58 <bblfish> there was a nice mail today quoting rfc2616 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Oct/0160.html
14:45:12 <BartvanLeeuwen> Topic: Open issues
14:45:13 <bblfish> q+
14:45:44 <BartvanLeeuwen> ack bblfish
14:45:56 <BartvanLeeuwen> Issue-20?
14:45:56 <trackbot> ISSUE-20 -- Identifying and naming POSTed resources -- open
14:45:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/20
14:47:07 <MacTed> q+
14:47:13 <gavinc> RDF WG is unlikely to add relative URIs to RDF
14:47:24 <Arnaud> ack MacTed
14:47:29 <stevebattle> q+
14:47:34 <BartvanLeeuwen> bblfish, should we coordinate something to discuss with RDF-wg at TPAC
14:49:10 <Arnaud> action bart: it's ok if you can't get everything
14:49:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - It's ok if you can't get everything [on Bart van Leeuwen - due 2012-10-22].
14:49:32 <Arnaud> oops, sorry
14:50:24 <Arnaud> q?
14:50:28 <stevebattle> q-
14:50:47 <gavinc> Is the the issue: How do you create new RDF resource with an unknown URI?
14:51:00 <gavinc> That's what I think the issue is, yes?
14:51:19 <AndyS> +1 to gavinc.
14:51:43 <gavinc> +q to say what I just said in IRC
14:51:44 <mhausenblas> Michael: I'm wondering. Are we talking protocol or are we talking philosophy?
14:51:57 <mhausenblas> Michael: Not trying to be offensive, but ...
14:51:59 <mhausenblas> q?
14:52:19 <stevebattle> q+
14:52:47 <mhausenblas> Michael: I believe in running code and experiencing issues through it. Discussions only take us so far ;)
14:52:59 <Arnaud> q?
14:53:12 <Arnaud> ack gavinc
14:53:12 <Zakim> gavinc, you wanted to say what I just said in IRC
14:53:23 <mhausenblas> q+ to suggest to show, not tell
14:53:31 <bblfish> yes
14:53:33 <bblfish> +1
14:53:34 <stevebattle> correct :)
14:53:45 <mhausenblas> q?
14:53:57 <stevebattle> agreed.
14:54:07 <Arnaud> ack stevebattle
14:54:10 <mhausenblas> q?
14:55:03 <Arnaud> ack mhausenblas
14:55:04 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to suggest to show, not tell
14:55:26 <bblfish> mhausenblas: I already have code on this
14:55:30 <bblfish> I pointed to in in e-mail
14:55:52 <sandro> +1 rough consensus and running code
14:55:58 <stevebattle> q+
14:56:19 <gavinc> Creating a Turtle document with a <> in it, maybe VERY VERY hard.
14:56:23 <gavinc> Oh, there is a code issue ;)
14:56:24 <bblfish> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Oct/0160.html
14:56:38 <AndyS> +1 to gavinc.
14:56:54 <gavinc> +q to say that there IS a code issue
14:57:10 <gavinc> The server is easy
14:57:13 <gavinc> The client? heh
14:57:15 <AndyS> RFC 3986 says something different to my reading.  gavinc has a good point for the client side.
14:57:28 <MacTed> q+
14:57:48 <gavinc> http-bis doesn't have an issue
14:57:58 <mhausenblas> q?
14:58:03 <stevebattle> q-
14:59:01 <JohnArwe> I have not looked recently with this particular issue driving me, but I have read several bis sections several times over the past year or so (POST among them) without catching any big-animal changes.
14:59:34 <Arnaud> q?
14:59:39 <Arnaud> ack gavinc
14:59:39 <Zakim> gavinc, you wanted to say that there IS a code issue
14:59:39 <stevebattle> Good point
15:00:44 <stevebattle> Could someone mail some code to prove that point (eg. using Jena to create <>)
15:00:45 <BartvanLeeuwen> gavinc, there are no tools available which can create the empty base URI documents
15:01:27 <Arnaud> ack MacTed
15:01:42 <bblfish> +1
15:02:00 <AndyS> Jena allows the base URI to be specificied but the client does not know before sending. Need to serialize before sending.
15:02:00 <bblfish> Don't let the current status on the tools rule good clean APIs
15:02:31 <Arnaud> q?
15:02:44 <Zakim> - +44.208.573.aakk
15:02:47 <Zakim> -Ruben
15:02:49 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
15:02:50 <Zakim> -Yves
15:02:51 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
15:02:54 <Zakim> -MacTed
15:02:56 <Zakim> -SteveS
15:02:59 <Zakim> -gavinc
15:03:00 <Zakim> -svillata
15:03:04 <Zakim> -bblfish
15:03:05 <Zakim> -Kalpa
15:03:07 <Zakim> -krp
15:03:12 <AndyS> I see no point in faking a base to tunnel through toolkits correctly implementing RDF.
15:03:19 <gavinc> +1
15:03:36 <MacTed> gavinc - my point is that it's already standardized as part of Turtle.
15:03:37 <bblfish> Ah I was thinking of Dan Connolly on speech acts and http
15:03:41 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
15:03:46 <MacTed> (and every other serialization of which I'm aware)
15:03:54 <gavinc> <> does not have specific meaning in Turtle
15:03:56 <gavinc> <> is not magic
15:03:59 <bblfish> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/dj9/story.html
15:04:00 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
15:04:03 <BartvanLeeuwen> bye
15:04:04 <Zakim> -Arnaud
15:04:05 <Ruben> Ruben has left #ldp
15:04:08 <stevebattle> Thanks for the speech acts pointer
15:04:10 <Zakim> -nmihindu
15:04:13 <Zakim> -rgarcia
15:04:15 <Zakim> -Sandro
15:04:25 <Arnaud> Meeting adjourned
15:04:42 <Arnaud> trackbot, meeting adjourned
15:04:42 <trackbot> Sorry, Arnaud, I don't understand 'trackbot, meeting adjourned'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
15:04:59 <AndyS> adjourned
15:05:07 <gavinc> It is totally reasonable to produce a Turtle document which replaces <> with <http://example.org/base/> in every instance, and by specification the MEANING of the document has not changed.
15:05:09 <Arnaud> trackbot, end meeting
15:05:09 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:05:09 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +329331aaaa, +1.408.996.aabb, Sandro, Ruben, Arnaud, BartvanLeeuwen, SteveS, +1.510.698.aacc, krp, bblfish, +1.845.433.aadd,
15:05:13 <Zakim> ... +1.707.861.aaee, gavinc, svillata, +1.937.775.aaff, Kalpa, Ashok_Malhotra, +44.117.370.aagg, +1.617.324.aahh, stevebattle, oberger, Yves, +1.781.273.aaii, rgarcia, MacTed,
15:05:13 <Zakim> ... nmihindu, +3539149aajj, mhausenblas, +44.208.573.aakk, JohnArwe, AndyS
15:05:17 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:05:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/15-ldp-minutes.html trackbot
15:05:18 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:05:18 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/15-ldp-actions.rdf :
15:05:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: minutes approved [1]
15:05:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/15-ldp-irc#T14-08-29
15:05:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: bart to it's ok if you can't get everything [2]
15:05:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/15-ldp-irc#T14-49-10