IRC log of rdf-wg on 2012-10-10

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14:55:50 [trackbot]: Zakim, this will be 73394
14:55:50 [Zakim]: ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
14:55:51 [trackbot]: Meeting: RDF Working Group Teleconference
14:55:51 [trackbot]: Date: 10 October 2012
14:58:34 [AndyS]: zakim, this is 73394
14:58:34 [Zakim]: ok, AndyS; that matches SW_RDFWG()11:00AM
14:58:44 [AndyS]: zakim, who is on the phone?
14:58:44 [Zakim]: On the phone I see [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a]
14:58:55 [AndyS]: zakim, IPCaller.a is me
14:58:55 [Zakim]: +AndyS; got it
14:59:01 [AndyS]: (probably)
14:59:06 [tbaker]: zakim, IPcaller is me
14:59:06 [Zakim]: +tbaker; got it
14:59:17 [Zakim]: +gavinc
14:59:20 [Zakim]: + +31.20.598.aaaa
14:59:37 [Guus]: zakim, +31.20 is me
14:59:37 [Zakim]: +Guus; got it
14:59:45 [Zakim]: +Sandro
15:00:20 [Guus]: zakim, who is here?
15:00:20 [Zakim]: On the phone I see tbaker, AndyS, gavinc, Guus, Sandro
15:00:21 [Zakim]: On IRC I see RRSAgent, AndyS, gkellogg, ivan, MacTed, tbaker, Guus, SteveH, mischat, gavinc, Arnaud, davidwood, manu1, manu, yvesr, trackbot, ericP, sandro
15:00:21 [Zakim]: +??P4
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15:00:29 [yvesr]: Zakim, ??P4 is me
15:00:29 [Zakim]: +yvesr; got it
15:00:41 [Zakim]: +??P6
15:01:26 [AZ]: AZ has joined #rdf-wg
15:01:37 [ivan]: zakim, code?
15:01:45 [Zakim]: +cgreer
15:01:50 [Zakim]: the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan
15:02:10 [Zakim]: +OpenLink_Software
15:02:16 [MacTed]: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
15:02:17 [MacTed]: Zakim, mute me
15:02:33 [Zakim]: +MacTed; got it
15:02:34 [Zakim]: MacTed should now be muted
15:02:50 [Zakim]: +ivan
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15:02:54 [Zakim]: +??P15
15:03:07 [AZ]: Zakim, ??P15 is me
15:03:07 [Zakim]: +AZ; got it
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15:03:29 [Zakim]: +pfps
15:03:50 [Zakim]: +Arnaud
15:04:01 [AZ]: Zakim, who is here please?
15:04:01 [Zakim]: On the phone I see tbaker, AndyS, gavinc, Guus, Sandro, yvesr, pchampin, cgreer, MacTed (muted), ivan, AZ, pfps, Arnaud
15:04:04 [Zakim]: + +1.443.212.aabb
15:04:06 [Zakim]: On IRC I see Souri, pfps, AlexHall, AZ, cgreer, pchampin, Zakim, RRSAgent, AndyS, gkellogg, ivan, MacTed, tbaker, Guus, SteveH, mischat, gavinc, Arnaud, davidwood, manu1, manu,
15:04:08 [Zakim]: ... yvesr, trackbot, ericP, sandro
15:04:25 [Zakim]: + +1.603.897.aacc
15:04:35 [Souri]: zakim, aacc is me
15:04:36 [Zakim]: +Souri; got it
15:04:48 [AndyS]: I can scribe
15:05:00 [Guus]: chair: Guus
15:05:02 [AndyS]: scribenick: AndyS
15:05:38 [AndyS]: agenda - http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2012.10.10
15:05:57 [AndyS]: topic: admin
15:06:16 [Zakim]: +??P32
15:06:20 [Zakim]: +EricP
15:06:24 [AndyS]: minutes of last meeting -- http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2012-10-03
15:06:24 [gkellogg]: zakim, I am ??P32
15:06:24 [Zakim]: +gkellogg; got it
15:06:30 [pfps]: minutes look ok
15:06:35 [AndyS]: guus: accepted
15:06:58 [AndyS]: RESOLVED to accept the minutes of 2012-10-03 (http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2012-10-03)
15:07:14 [AndyS]: subtopic: action items
15:08:08 [AndyS]: no telecon 31 Oct (same week as face-to-face)
15:08:18 [AndyS]: topic: Turtle Last Call
15:08:34 [AndyS]: next meeting next week : 17 Oct
15:08:58 [ericP]: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/I18n-Comments
15:09:01 [ericP]: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/I18n-Comments
15:09:03 [AndyS]: Guus: issue numbers are in I18N tracker.
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15:10:07 [AndyS]: (the proposals are linked to by Nack/ack)
15:10:20 [Zakim]: + +1.650.265.aadd
15:10:34 [zwu2]: zakim, +1.650.265.aadd is me
15:10:34 [Zakim]: +zwu2; got it
15:10:48 [ivan]: zakim, mute me
15:10:48 [Zakim]: ivan should now be muted
15:10:55 [AndyS]: ericP: 178 -- BCP 47 reference
15:11:24 [Guus]: PROPOSAL: wedge in a not-too-contrived ref in section 7 Parsing: "and an optional language tag [BCP47] or datatype IRI" per editor's draft.
15:11:34 [gavinc]: +1 already completed in ED
15:11:54 [Zakim]: +PatH
15:11:55 [AndyS]: Guus: any discussion? no ...
15:12:04 [pfps]: go for it
15:12:06 [MacTed]: issue-178?
15:12:06 [trackbot]: ISSUE-178 does not exist
15:12:18 [AndyS]: ... resolved
15:12:19 [gavinc]: I18N-ISSUE-178?
15:12:35 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: wedge in a not-too-contrived ref in section 7 Parsing: "and an optional language tag [BCP47] or datatype IRI" per editor's draft.
15:12:52 [AndyS]: Guus: 179 ...
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15:13:13 [AndyS]: gavinc: scope of language e.g. common langauge for all doc.
15:13:20 [gavinc]: PROPOSAL: Turtle will not add a method to declare the language of the document.
15:13:22 [AndyS]: ... proposal - not to add
15:13:24 [pfps]: good idea to not do it
15:13:56 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: Turtle will not add a method to declare the language of the document.
15:14:09 [ericP]: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#turtle-literals
15:14:15 [patH]: zakim, mute me
15:14:15 [Zakim]: PatH should now be muted
15:14:17 [AndyS]: guus: next ... 180 ...
15:14:46 [AndyS]: PROPOSAL: add this markup [[ (<span class="codepoint">#005E</span>)"]] to the first reference to each character per the editor's draft <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#turtle-literals>.
15:15:06 [pfps]: obnoxious, but probably a good idea
15:15:46 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: add this markup [[ (<span class="codepoint">#005E</span>)"]] to the first reference to each character per the editor's draft <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#turtle-literals>.
15:15:58 [patH]: good+obnoxious = medicinal?
15:16:05 [AndyS]: guus: ... 181 ...
15:16:20 [ericP]: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#turtle-literals
15:16:26 [pfps]: sounds reasonable
15:17:01 [AndyS]: PROPOSAL: add example of non-ASCII IRI
15:17:09 [yvesr]: +1
15:17:16 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: add example of non-ASCII IRI
15:17:32 [AndyS]: guus: ... 182 ...
15:18:09 [AndyS]: ericP: need a sublanguage example. Don't see how it can be better.
15:18:20 [pchampin]: well for the record, we had this TV show in France :)
15:18:28 [pchampin]: q+
15:18:30 [pfps]: ok by me
15:18:32 [patH]: agree this is a good example.
15:19:23 [AndyS]: ??: could use colour/color in @en
15:19:37 [AZ]: s/??/pchampin/
15:19:47 [gavinc]: ack pchampin
15:19:54 [AndyS]: PROPOSAL: 182 -- No change
15:20:03 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: 182 -- No change
15:20:14 [ericP]: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#abbrev
15:21:02 [AndyS]: ericP: 183 -- work in progress
15:21:18 [AZ]: my:productInStock :hasQuantity 10
15:21:26 [pfps]: you could always cheat and have the property be something like usdebtindollars
15:22:25 [AndyS]: gavinc: good relations as a source of examples? Need xsd:double as well.
15:22:30 [gkellogg]: Avagadro's Number?
15:22:34 [patH]: engineering data uses doubles somewhere?
15:23:03 [patH]: Check out ISO definition of a mole.
15:23:27 [patH]: Aaaarghhhh
15:23:35 [patH]: I will attempt it.
15:23:51 [pfps]: along the same lines, one could use dimensionless constants
15:24:04 [AndyS]: gavinc: 183 still open at the moment
15:24:09 [AndyS]: guus: need a plan
15:24:29 [AndyS]: ericP: ping with nack unless you (i18n) have an example
15:24:37 [pfps]: fine, as long as we close the issue pending further input
15:24:52 [ivan]: +1 to pfps
15:25:24 [AndyS]: PROPOSED: i18n-183 -- EricP to respond with "no change unless you have further input"
15:25:37 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: i18n-183 -- EricP to respond with "no change unless you have further input"
15:25:46 [AndyS]: guus: ... 184 ...
15:25:51 [ericP]: http://www.w3.org/mid/20121002044103.GD27799@w3.org
15:26:14 [pfps]: +1
15:26:33 [ivan]: +1
15:26:39 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: i18n-184 -- Use the text U+xx form [[ U+B7, U+300 to U+36F and U+203F to U+2040 are permitted anywhere except the first character. ]] per the editor's draft <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#BNodes>
15:27:03 [AndyS]: ACTION EricP Respond to i18n for issue 183
15:27:03 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-188 - Respond to i18n for issue 183 [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2012-10-17].
15:27:42 [AndyS]: ericP: line terminators 185
15:27:45 [AndyS]: PROPOSAL: Alter the text introducing the 4th example in §3 to say " The line breaks in this example are LINE FEED characters (U+0A)." per editor's draft <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#sec-examples>
15:27:47 [pfps]: picky, but works for me
15:28:03 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: Alter the text introducing the 4th example in §3 to say " The line breaks in this example are LINE FEED characters (U+0A)." per editor's draft <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#sec-examples>
15:28:29 [gavinc]: PROPOSAL: Turtle will continue to use \u \U escape syntax.
15:28:32 [AndyS]: gavinc: 187 -- \u escape
15:28:35 [pfps]: agreed, we are not going to fix this issue
15:28:40 [patH]: +1
15:28:58 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: Turtle will continue to use \u \U escape syntax.
15:29:07 [pfps]: well, we are following the crowd, which may not be going in the "right" direction
15:29:50 [AndyS]: ericP: 188 - special handling of % in IRI
15:30:19 [AndyS]: ... what we have is correct - discussion has happened already.
15:30:28 [gavinc]: damn, ISSUE-186 is for us
15:31:01 [ericP]: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/I18n-Comments#189:_.5BS.5D_reference_obs-language-tag_instead_of_defining_your_own
15:31:08 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: i18n-188 no change -- special handling of % in IRI
15:31:51 [AndyS]: ericP: ... 189 ... advice from BCP 47 for language tags
15:32:07 [AndyS]: ... ABNF is quite complicated and much more than RFC.
15:32:43 [AndyS]: ... historical was 8 char/numbers per section between the "-"
15:33:24 [AndyS]: PROPOSAL: Use {1,8} in lang tag production and {..} for \u \U escapes
15:33:51 [AndyS]: (variation to SPARQL) Minor
15:33:51 [gavinc]: +q to say nothing is wrong
15:34:48 [AndyS]: gavinc: adding {1,8} does not make full checking happen so nothing changes really.
15:35:08 [AndyS]: ... already have to do further checking so little value in adding to Turtle
15:35:15 [patH]: could pont that out in the prose, though.
15:35:18 [AndyS]: ... no need to complicate the grammar
15:35:26 [AndyS]: (c.f. RD/XML)
15:35:27 [patH]: since apparently they missed it.
15:35:29 [AndyS]: (c.f. RDF/XML)
15:35:41 [gavinc]: Zakim, who is talking
15:35:41 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'who is talking', gavinc
15:35:43 [gavinc]: Zakim, who is talking?
15:35:45 [AndyS]: ack gavinc
15:35:45 [Zakim]: gavinc, you wanted to say nothing is wrong
15:35:53 [Zakim]: gavinc, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Guus (14%)
15:36:45 [AndyS]: guus: one more week to agree and on agenda next week
15:36:54 [AndyS]: sandro: what moves this on?
15:37:04 [AndyS]: ericP: ericP and gavinc to email on list
15:37:14 [AndyS]: guus: editors to agree
15:37:23 [AndyS]: ... i18n 190
15:37:37 [AndyS]: ... " attempting to erase combining marks?"
15:38:56 [AndyS]: PROPOSAL: i18n-190 -- No change - follow XML ed 5
15:39:27 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: i18n-190 -- No change - follow XML ed 5
15:39:35 [AndyS]: guus: ... 191 ...
15:39:52 [AndyS]: ericP: editorial matters
15:40:16 [AndyS]: ... one change proposed otherwise already covered
15:40:55 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: i18n-191 as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2012Oct/0017.html
15:41:29 [ericP]: https://github.com/darobin/respec/blob/f7f242642de460e73dcbbb509efb582925b4c6ac/bibref/biblio.js
15:41:30 [AndyS]: guus: ... 192 ...
15:41:53 [gkellogg]: Issue a pull request against robin's Git repo
15:42:05 [AndyS]: gavinc: will do it (ReSpec and reference issue)
15:42:27 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: i18n-192 Update ReSpec for doc.
15:42:57 [gavinc]: ACTION Gavin to finish i18n-192
15:42:57 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-189 - Finish i18n-192 [on Gavin Carothers - due 2012-10-17].
15:42:58 [AndyS]: action: gavinc - send an ack to the comments list an di18n for 192
15:42:58 [trackbot]: Sorry, couldn't find gavinc. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/users>.
15:43:24 [patH]: "anack" (noun): a state of total confusion about what to do next.
15:43:59 [AndyS]: ericP: 193 - no change
15:44:11 [AndyS]: ... good to have someone double check.
15:44:25 [AndyS]: ... the escape processing text
15:44:40 [AndyS]: gavinc: 3rd party confirms it works
15:44:55 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: 18n-193 - no change
15:45:05 [AndyS]: guus: ... missed 186 ...
15:45:26 [ivan]: zakim, unmute me
15:45:26 [Zakim]: ivan should no longer be muted
15:45:29 [AndyS]: gavinc: i18n suggests not just UTF-8
15:45:38 [AndyS]: ... XML is not a good example.
15:45:52 [gavinc]: http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/186
15:45:58 [AndyS]: ericP: agree - no change
15:46:27 [AndyS]: PROPOSED: i18n-186 : keep Turtle as UTF-8
15:47:18 [ivan]: q+
15:47:52 [AndyS]: andys: a perma-issue on support lists
15:48:11 [AndyS]: ivan: deployed practice is UTF-8
15:48:23 [AndyS]: RESOLVED: i18n-186 : keep Turtle as UTF-8
15:49:12 [AndyS]: action: gavin -- respond for i18n 187
15:49:13 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-190 - -- respond for i18n 187 [on Gavin Carothers - due 2012-10-17].
15:49:40 [AndyS]: ACTION-190: respond for i18n 186
15:49:40 [trackbot]: ACTION-190 -- respond for i18n 187 notes added
15:50:07 [AndyS]: guus: other comments
15:51:02 [AndyS]: gavinc: already done .. no response
15:51:15 [AndyS]: ... rest minor editorial
15:51:48 [AndyS]: ... except TTL+HTML section to separate Note
15:52:16 [ivan]: q+
15:53:38 [ivan]: q+
15:54:07 [AndyS]: guus: prefer appendix
15:54:23 [AndyS]: sandro: use of script tag?
15:54:24 [ivan]: q-
15:54:55 [AndyS]: gavinc: problem is Turtle with an end script tag in content.
15:54:56 [gkellogg]: Or CDATA?
15:55:14 [gkellogg]: :-P
15:55:52 [AndyS]: sandro: useful to put into the spec as good practice
15:56:27 [AndyS]: manu: JSON-LD does not talk about this - not TTL specific - generic for embedding in <script>
15:56:41 [AndyS]: ... e.g. n-triples
15:57:02 [sandro]: q?
15:57:43 [patH]: Not following all of the detail, but I hear violent agreement and people saying the spec should draw attention to it. So, editorial. Case closed?
15:57:46 [AndyS]: sandro: give an escaping example
15:57:50 [manu]: s/manu: JSON-LD/gkellogg: JSON-LD/
15:57:55 [gkellogg]: s/manu/gkellogg/
15:58:11 [AndyS]: gavinc: I can add it
15:59:37 [AndyS]: guus: propose to be an appendix
15:59:45 [gavinc]: RESOLVE: Leave Turtle in HTML in appendix, add stuff about escaping
16:00:17 [gavinc]: ACTION Gavin add escaping to Turtle in HTML
16:00:18 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-191 - Add escaping to Turtle in HTML [on Gavin Carothers - due 2012-10-17].
16:01:10 [gavinc]: ISSUE Turtle in HTML doesn't explain escaping
16:01:15 [gavinc]: ISSUE: Turtle in HTML doesn't explain escaping
16:01:16 [trackbot]: Created ISSUE-100 - Turtle in HTML doesn't explain escaping ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/100/edit .
16:01:31 [AndyS]: guus: What is then the status of Turtle?
16:01:45 [Zakim]: +Sandro.a
16:01:45 [AndyS]: ... do we need 2LC or can we go to CR?
16:01:47 [AndyS]: q+
16:01:50 [Zakim]: -Sandro
16:02:20 [AndyS]: ack me
16:02:26 [AndyS]: andys: test suite?
16:02:47 [AndyS]: guus: I believe we do not need 2LC
16:03:51 [AndyS]: ... we are in a position to ask for CR when responds come in.
16:03:56 [AndyS]: ... test suite
16:04:06 [AndyS]: ... needed for CR
16:04:35 [AndyS]: ericP: test suite -- original submission had some tests.
16:05:27 [ivan]: q+
16:05:28 [AndyS]: ... in SPARQL - separate test doc - inputs, outputs, there is N-triples as a reference
16:05:42 [AndyS]: ... in SPARQL - separate test doc . For TTL, inputs, outputs, there is N-triples as a reference
16:06:19 [Guus]: ack ivan
16:06:23 [AndyS]: q+ to suggest splitting into syntax (yes/no) and triple output
16:07:21 [AndyS]: ivan: may be tricky to get an impl report because already widely deployed so not really watching closely. They will update later, not during W3C process
16:07:33 [Guus]: ack AndyS
16:07:33 [Zakim]: AndyS, you wanted to suggest splitting into syntax (yes/no) and triple output
16:08:39 [gavinc]: +q to NOT specify in the tests what to do for invalidity
16:08:47 [AndyS]: andys: Jena will run the tests.
16:09:05 [Guus]: ack gavin
16:09:05 [Zakim]: gavinc, you wanted to NOT specify in the tests what to do for invalidity
16:09:10 [gavinc]: +q to NOT specify in the tests what to do for invalidity
16:09:28 [Guus]: ack gavin
16:09:28 [Zakim]: gavinc, you wanted to NOT specify in the tests what to do for invalidity
16:09:29 [AndyS]: ack gavinc
16:10:02 [AndyS]: gavinc: want to be loose to be outside bad TTL and do recovery or graceful non-spec usage
16:10:29 [patH]: Whoa. I think having optional recovery is a BAD idea.
16:11:08 [patH]: There are lots of published warnings about how this ruins interoperability and leads to nonstandard-creep.
16:11:29 [patH]: I vote AGAINST this.
16:11:34 [AndyS]: sandro: describe in the conformance section - just need to be clear what the spec says
16:11:54 [patH]: PLease record my negative vote.
16:12:05 [AndyS]: path - we do not specify what the recovery is -- this is not fortran 4
16:12:06 [ericP]: patH, i think you'd be content with the mechanics
16:12:47 [ericP]: that is, the negative syntax tests are specifically not turtle, but you don't have to reject them all to be a conformant turtle parser
16:13:02 [AndyS]: sandro: timescale? CR start end Oct? For ISWC
16:13:12 [ericP]: (having uttered that, i'm not confident that you'd agree with that)
16:13:40 [AndyS]: ivan: exit crtieria? test organisation?
16:14:39 [AndyS]: ... TPAC non-publish period
16:15:05 [AndyS]: guus: chairs+team will sort out the timing
16:15:24 [AndyS]: ... ericP and gavinc to complete actions in a timely fashion.
16:15:50 [AndyS]: gavinc: will need help on test suite
16:17:06 [AndyS]: sandro: do we approve en mass?
16:17:14 [gkellogg]: do you have a reference to the test suite?
16:17:55 [AndyS]: ADJOURNED
16:17:56 [Zakim]: -ivan
16:17:57 [Zakim]: -Sandro
16:17:57 [Zakim]: -tbaker
16:17:58 [Zakim]: -Arnaud
16:17:58 [Zakim]: -yvesr
16:17:58 [Zakim]: -Souri
16:18:02 [Zakim]: -EricP
16:18:06 [Zakim]: -gkellogg
16:18:06 [AlexHall]: AlexHall has left #rdf-wg
16:18:08 [Zakim]: -gavinc
16:18:10 [Zakim]: -zwu2
16:18:12 [Zakim]: -PatH
16:18:14 [Zakim]: -AZ
16:18:16 [Zakim]: -MacTed
16:18:20 [Zakim]: -AlexHall
16:18:27 [Zakim]: -AndyS
16:18:28 [Zakim]: -pchampin
16:18:30 [Zakim]: -cgreer
16:18:32 [Zakim]: -Guus
16:18:39 [AndyS]: AndyS has left #rdf-wg
16:18:54 [Guus]: trackbot, end meeting
16:18:54 [trackbot]: Zakim, list attendees
16:18:54 [Zakim]: As of this point the attendees have been AndyS, tbaker, gavinc, +31.20.598.aaaa, Guus, Sandro, yvesr, pchampin, cgreer, MacTed, ivan, AZ, pfps, Arnaud, +1.443.212.aabb, AlexHall,
16:18:57 [Zakim]: ... +1.603.897.aacc, Souri, EricP, gkellogg, zwu2, PatH
16:19:02 [trackbot]: RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:19:02 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/10-rdf-wg-minutes.html trackbot
16:19:03 [trackbot]: RRSAgent, bye
16:19:03 [RRSAgent]: I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/10-rdf-wg-actions.rdf :
16:19:03 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: gavinc - send an ack to the comments list an di18n for 192 [1]
16:19:03 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/10-rdf-wg-irc#T15-42-58
16:19:03 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: gavin -- respond for i18n 187 [2]
16:19:03 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/10-rdf-wg-irc#T15-49-12