[Odrl-version2] New ODRL v2.0 Model

[Susanne Guth]

Hi Steven,


thanks for your comments. I agree and read your earlier mail. Agreement is
nicer. :)

so long
Susanne

> 
> Hi Suzanne,
> 
> ><http://wi.wu-wien.ac.at/~guth/toward_contract_frmwrk.pdf>
> >see Chapter 5
> 
> Thanks, this was very helpful and very clear about how you would like
> "Ticket" to operate. I have no trouble with it.
> 
> And I see also that "contract" is going to be an unavoidable word. I only
> suggest, as before, that for front-line consumer applications, "agreement"
> might be better to have on the pull-down menus. But this would be a call
> made by whoever writes the software to run on the browser, so it's not
really
> an issue in writing ODRL.
> 
> steven
> 
> >
> >Susanne
> >
> >> 
> >> Hi,
> >> Comments for Steven's email:
> >> > 
> >> > 1. Bidding would probably be a large-scale addition and if so might
> slow
> >> down dissemination of ODRL at a critical time. 
> >> Not really - bidding is just an extension to the type elements and thus
> >> has no real effect on the overall license structure.
> >> > 
> >> > 2. What is a "ticket" in your revamped model (or, for that matter, in
> >> the original version 2. I admit I've forgotten)? How is it different
> from
> >> "contract"?
> >> A ticket in both models is essentially the same as a ticket for a
> >> concert, the bus etc - it gives the bearer a set of rights from the
> >> rights holder; and the bearer is not a defined party (so I could give
> >> you my ticket and you will have access).
> >> > 3. The use of the word 'contract' will be appropriate for
> negotiations
> >> between corporations and bureacracies, but might put off the average
> >> consumer wishing to download music or a few pages of text, say. In this
> >situation,
> >> in my opinion, "Agreement" is much more user-friendly. Admittedly, the
> >> average user will not need to be looking under the hood, so "Agreement"
> >could
> >> be used in pull-down menus etc., and 'contract' in the actual code. But
> >> still, it would be more clean to have the same word used at both
> levels,
> >> unless there is a legal reason why the word 'contract' has to be used;
> I
> >suspect
> >> that there is not. ("A rose by any other name would smell as sweet").
> >> > 
> >> Agreed - but I think it is also a problem with current DRM systems -
> DRM
> >> systems are enforcement of license contracts not copyright - I think it
> >> is better for consumers to know and accept the fact instead of the
> >> current scenario where no-one knows what the exact situation is?
> >> > 4. Section 4.5, "Other Issues": Unfortunately in all of these I seem
> to
> >> understand too little about the situation to see a problem. I think
> I'll
> >> take the 'glass-is-half-full' approach and treat this as evidence that
> >ODRL 2
> >> is almost ready for release.  :-) 
> >> > 
> >> Well I do have a full blown XML schema ... but I am not sure using it
> >> would be a good idea ;)
> >> > steven rowat
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > >Hi,
> >> > >New year's greetings to everyone. 
> >> > >
> >> > >As discussed with Renato and Susanne last month, I have been working
> on
> >> > >a few new ideas on the ODRL v2.0 model, which I have just completed.
> In
> >> > >the attached PDF, you will find a paper detailing the new model, and
> >> the
> >> > >motivations for the changes (most of which are based on negotiations
> >> > >support). The paper also contains 7 examples (in XML), the full
> schema
> >> > >(XSD) and a sample data dictionary. 
> >> > >
> >> > >I can forward the original source documents for the model, xml
> examples
> >> > >and schema file.
> >> > >
> >> > >I would like your comments and feedback esp. with regards to the
> duty
> >> > >and action elements (see sections 4.5.4 and 4.5.5).
> >> > >
> >> > >Regards
> >> > >Alapan Arnab
> >> > >-- 
> >> > >Alapan Arnab
> >> > >Data Networks Architecture (DNA) Laboratory
> >> > >Department of Computer Science
> >> > >University of Cape Town
> >> > >Rondebosch, 7700
> >> > >South Africa
> >> > >
> >> > >Tel: +27 21 650 3127
> >> > >Web: http://people.cs.uct.ac.za/~aarnab/
> >> > >Blog: http://idiots-mind.blogspot.com
> >> > >----------
> >> > >"You must always believe that you can be the best, but you must
> never
> >> > >believe you have achieved it".
> >> > >Juan Manuel Fangio
> >> > >
> >> > >Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:new_odrl_20060111.pdf (PDF /CARO)
> >> (000A9288)
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> >> -- 
> >> Alapan Arnab
> >> Data Networks Architecture (DNA) Laboratory
> >> Department of Computer Science
> >> University of Cape Town
> >> Rondebosch, 7700
> >> South Africa
> >> 
> >> Tel: +27 21 650 3127
> >> Web: http://people.cs.uct.ac.za/~aarnab/
> >> Blog: http://idiots-mind.blogspot.com
> >> ----------
> >> "You must always believe that you can be the best, but you must never
> >> believe you have achieved it".
> >> Juan Manuel Fangio
> >> 
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> >
> >-- 
> >Susanne Guth
> >susanne at odrl.net
> >ODRL Initiative
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