IRC log of wai-wcag on 2012-08-09
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/08/09-wai-wcag-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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- ok, trackbot; I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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- Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 09 August 2012
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2012JulSep/0042.html
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- regrets: Kathleen_Wahlbin
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- chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started
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- +Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- +Cooper
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- +[Oracle]
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- Zakim, Oracle has Peter_Korn
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- +Peter_Korn; got it
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- +David_MacDonald
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- +[Microsoft]
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- zakim, aaaa is Robin_Tuttle
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- +Robin_Tuttle; got it
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- zakim, who is on the call?
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- On the phone I see Katie_Haritos-Shea, Cooper, [Oracle], David_MacDonald, Gregg_Vanderheiden, James_Nurthen, Robin_Tuttle, [Microsoft]
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- zakim, Microsoft is Alex_Li
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- [Oracle] has Peter_Korn
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- +Alex_Li; got it
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120809misc/results Miscellaneous issues for 09 Aug 2012
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- +Marc_Johlic
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- +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- +??P7
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- zakim, ??P7 is adam_solomon
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- +adam_solomon; got it
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- topic: Question from WAI-ARIA Task Force: Examples in WAI-ARIA techniques
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- -Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- +Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- RESOLUTION: Question from WAI-ARIA Task Force: Examples in WAI-ARIA techniques - there will be a discussion of this issue in the ARIA technology notes. Examples that seem to contradict using semantic controls when available will include a link back to that discussion.
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- +Bruce_Bailey
- 20:38:26 [jamesn]
- ACTION: jamesn to Create a Note for the WAI-ARIA techniques so that examples which seem to contradict the "use semantic elements" statement in the aria spec can refer to
- 20:38:26 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-176 - Create a Note for the WAI-ARIA techniques so that examples which seem to contradict the "use semantic elements" statement in the aria spec can refer to [on James Nurthen - due 2012-08-16].
- 20:38:37 [MichaelC]
- action-176?
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- ACTION-176 -- James Nurthen to create a Note for the WAI-ARIA techniques so that examples which seem to contradict the "use semantic elements" statement in the aria spec can refer to -- due 2012-08-16 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/actions/176
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- To the action, people can add thoughts to the action in the add notes field
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- topic: Question from WAI-ARIA Task Force: Direction on ARIA states technique
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- http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-TECHS/H91
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- (btw choose "edit this action" first to get to the "Add notes" field)
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- Question from WAI-ARIA Task Force: Direction on ARIA states technique – Feedback for taskforce: explore combining a broad general technique on states with more target techniques for different roles or classes of states
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- -adam_solomon
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- topic: 3.1.1 Guidance - submitted for approval
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- q+
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- q+ to ask about if application doesn't support the system's language
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- ack k
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- Where software platforms provide a "locale/language" setting, applications that user that setting and render their interface in that "locale/language" would comply with this success criterion.
- 21:03:31 [MichaelC]
- ack me
- 21:03:31 [Zakim]
- MichaelC, you wanted to ask about if application doesn't support the system's language
- 21:05:01 [korn1]
- Where software platforms provide a "locale/language" setting, applications that use that setting and render their interface in that "locale/language" would comply with this success criterion. Applications that do not use the platform "locale/language setting" but instead use an accessibility supported method for exposing the human language of the software user interface would also comply with this success criterion. Applications implemented in technologi
- 21:06:15 [korn1]
- Last sentence (slightly further modified): "Applications implemented in technologies where Assistive technologies cannot determine the human language and that do not support the platform "locale/language" setting may not be able to meet this success criterion in that locale/language."
- 21:11:03 [korn1]
- https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/home/3-understandable/31-make-text-content-readable-and-understandable/311-language-of-page
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- See "New text discussed in WCAG WG in 9Aug12:"
- 21:18:00 [MichaelC]
- action: cooper to write up language for WCAG2ICT support for 3.1.1 that explains the conformance if the OS is set to one language, the application doesn't support that and falls back to another, and has no way to inform user that there is a desynchronicity
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- Created ACTION-177 - Write up language for WCAG2ICT support for 3.1.1 that explains the conformance if the OS is set to one language, the application doesn't support that and falls back to another, and has no way to inform user that there is a desynchronicity [on Michael Cooper - due 2012-08-16].
- 21:18:54 [robin]
- RESOLUTION: 3.1.1 Guidance - submitted for approval – Accepted as amended here https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/home/3-understandable/31-make-text-content-readable-and-understandable/311-language-of-page See New text discussed in WCAG WG on 9Aug12
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- topic: 3.1.2 Guidance - submitted for approval
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- action: peter to clarify role of inheritance in 3.1.2 Understanding Document with respect to nested elements.
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- Created ACTION-178 - Clarify role of inheritance in 3.1.2 Understanding Document with respect to nested elements. [on Peter Korn - due 2012-08-16].
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- https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/home/3-understandable/31-make-text-content-readable-and-understandable/312-language-of-parts
- 21:29:08 [robin]
- RESOLUTION: 3.1.2 Guidance - submitted for approval – accept as amended here https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/home/3-understandable/31-make-text-content-readable-and-understandable/312-language-of-parts see “From WCAG WG meeting on 9Aug12:”
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- topic: 4.1.2 -- Approval of a note to Task Force Guidance for 4.1.2
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- RESOLUTION: 4.1.2 -- Approval of a note to Task Force Guidance for 4.1.2 - accepted as proposed
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- -Alex_Li
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- got dropped but no matter. thanks eveyone
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- -James_Nurthen
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -[Oracle]
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- -Cooper
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- -David_MacDonald
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- -Marc_Johlic
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- -Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Katie_Haritos-Shea, Cooper, Peter_Korn, David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Gregg_Vanderheiden, James_Nurthen, +1.206.544.aaaa, Robin_Tuttle, Alex_Li, Marc_Johlic,
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- ... Loretta_Guarino_Reid, adam_solomon
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/08/09-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/09-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: jamesn to Create a Note for the WAI-ARIA techniques so that examples which seem to contradict the "use semantic elements" statement in the aria spec can refer to [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/09-wai-wcag-irc#T20-38-26
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- ACTION: cooper to write up language for WCAG2ICT support for 3.1.1 that explains the conformance if the OS is set to one language, the application doesn't support that and falls back to another, and has no way to inform user that there is a desynchronicity [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/09-wai-wcag-irc#T21-18-00
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- ACTION: peter to clarify role of inheritance in 3.1.2 Understanding Document with respect to nested elements. [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/09-wai-wcag-irc#T21-25-28
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- zakim, bye
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