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13:57:30 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
13:57:30 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
13:57:31 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:57:31 <trackbot> Date: 17 July 2012
13:57:38 <AndyS> zakim, this is 77277
13:57:38 <Zakim> AndyS, I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be 77277".
13:57:50 <AndyS> zakim, start 77277
13:57:50 <Zakim> I don't understand 'start 77277', AndyS
13:58:16 <AndyS> zakim, start meeting
13:58:16 <Zakim> I don't understand 'start meeting', AndyS
13:59:24 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started
13:59:32 <Zakim> +kasei
13:59:47 <Zakim> +sandro
13:59:59 <sandro> AndyS, Zakim's notion of the meeting having started is having someone dial in.
14:00:13 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
14:00:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see kasei, sandro
14:00:31 <Zakim> +??P8
14:00:36 <AndyS> zakim, ??P8 is me
14:00:36 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
14:00:46 <Zakim> +??P11
14:00:52 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P11 is me
14:00:52 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it
14:00:54 <Zakim> +Olivier
14:00:57 <cbuilara> zakim, mute me
14:00:58 <Zakim> cbuilara should now be muted
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14:01:46 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: SPARQL WG  17 July: Agenda Item -- Query LC3
14:02:24 <Zakim> +MattPerry
14:02:24 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
14:02:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see kasei, sandro, AndyS, cbuilara (muted), Olivier, MattPerry
14:02:31 <sandro> SteveH, are you joining us?
14:03:17 <SteveH> sandro, yeah, just dialing in - new office :-/
14:03:26 <Zakim> +??P19
14:03:31 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P19 is me
14:03:31 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it
14:03:59 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Scribe_List
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14:04:58 <Zakim> +pgearon
14:05:09 <AndyS> I'll scribe
14:05:18 <AndyS> scribenick: AndyS
14:05:43 <Zakim> +Arthur
14:06:07 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-07-10.html
14:06:25 <sandro> PROPOSED: Approve minutes o flast week, http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-07-10.html
14:06:57 <kasei> +1
14:07:05 <sandro> RESOLVED: Approve minutes of last week, http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-07-10
14:08:15 <sandro> topic: Query LC decision.
14:08:16 <AndyS> topic: query
14:08:48 <sandro> andy: We're ready to go.  Everything is done enough for LC.    A few editorial issues outsitanding, on to-pr page
14:08:49 <AndyS> AndyS: status http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/To_PR#Query_.28LC.29
14:09:13 <sandro> AndyS: All issues are closed, all comments are replied to, all design work finished.
14:09:27 <AndyS> ... issues closed, comments replied to, only editorial matters outstanding
14:09:45 <AndyS> steveH: concur ... up to new issue on grammar
14:10:00 <sandro> subtopic: Syntax issues
14:10:29 <sandro> "   Fwd: Turtle: Prefixes now can contain colons (":")?    "
14:10:35 <sandro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0067.html
14:10:45 <sandro> andy: mistake in how colons were allowed
14:10:55 <sandro> andy: easy fix, writing out some tests
14:11:20 <sandro> andy: Aiming for both positive and negative syntax tests
14:12:21 <sandro> sandro: Sounds like a straight bug.     Let's just authorize publication with this bug fixed.
14:13:06 <sandro> andy: I'm okay either way
14:13:20 <sandro> steve: Make sure turtle fixes it in the same way.
14:14:05 <sandro> sandro: I don't see any question in how to fix the language, just the grammar.
14:14:18 <sandro> andy: The RDF WG isn't meeting this week.
14:14:26 <sandro> +1 liaise with Gavin
14:14:34 <SteveH> +1
14:16:29 <sandro> action: greg to confirm Andy's change to the grammar, and run the tests
14:16:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-661 - Confirm Andy's change to the grammar, and run the tests [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-07-24].
14:16:45 <sandro> greg: What's it improperly allowing?
14:17:16 <AndyS> PREFIX ex:ex <http://example> and   { ?x:a   <p> <o> } and ex:ns:abc isn't (ex:  ns:abc)
14:17:24 <AndyS> PREFIX ex:ex: <http://example> and   { ?x:a   <p> <o> } and ex:ns:abc isn't (ex:  ns:abc)
14:18:12 <sandro> andy: Tokenizer make some kind of decision, so we didn't notice.
14:19:11 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:19:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see kasei, sandro, AndyS, cbuilara (muted), Olivier, MattPerry, SteveH, pgearon, Arthur
14:19:19 <sandro> PROPOSED: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Query (ed draft at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/rq25.xml) as a Last Call Working Draft, after Andy fixes the a:b:c grammar issue to the satisfaction of Greg and Gavin (from RDF WG).
14:19:31 <SteveH> +1
14:19:38 <kasei> +1
14:19:39 <AndyS> +1
14:19:42 <sandro> +1
14:19:43 <MattPerry> +1
14:19:45 <pgearon> +1
14:20:28 <sandro> RESOLVED: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Query (ed draft at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/rq25.xml) as a Last Call Working Draft, after Andy fixes the a:b:c grammar issue to the satisfaction of Greg and Gavin (from RDF WG).
14:21:05 <sandro> andy: I'm out next week,
14:22:06 <sandro> sandro: Andy, you talk to webmaster, if you run into snags let me know
14:22:48 <sandro> andy: I'll make the changes today and talk to gavin and should have it by worked out by the end of the week
14:22:57 <sandro> Any Other Business?
14:22:57 <AndyS> AOB?
14:23:21 <sandro> action-654?
14:23:21 <trackbot> ACTION-654 -- Gregory Williams to check back whether there's a test case for MIN empty set, in case add the query from http://answers.semanticweb.com/questions/17410/semantics-of-sparql-aggregates -- due 2012-07-10 -- OPEN
14:23:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/654
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14:24:15 <sandro> andy: I pass that
14:24:25 <sandro> close action-654
14:24:25 <trackbot> ACTION-654 Check back whether there's a test case for MIN empty set, in case add the query from http://answers.semanticweb.com/questions/17410/semantics-of-sparql-aggregates closed
14:24:42 <AndyS> ADJOURNED
14:24:48 <Zakim> -sandro
14:24:49 <Zakim> -cbuilara
14:24:50 <Zakim> -SteveH
14:24:50 <Zakim> -MattPerry
14:24:51 <MattPerry> bye
14:24:52 <Zakim> -Arthur
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14:27:36 <bglimm> Hm, and I guess I am anyway too late...
14:30:01 <bglimm> Zakim, who's on the phone?
14:30:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, Olivier, pgearon
14:32:04 <Zakim> -pgearon
14:32:05 <Zakim> -AndyS
14:32:11 <pgearon> sorry bglimm
14:32:15 <pgearon> meeting finished early
14:32:26 <pgearon> I was just chatting with AndyS at the end
14:33:52 <bglimm> ok, no problem
14:33:52 <bglimm> Did we decide to publish Query at least?
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14:34:59 <pgearon> After Andy fixes a problem that was discovered in the grammar
14:35:01 <Zakim> -Olivier
14:35:02 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended
14:35:02 <Zakim> Attendees were kasei, sandro, AndyS, cbuilara, Olivier, MattPerry, SteveH, pgearon, Arthur
14:35:18 <pgearon> Here's the resolution:  RESOLVED: Publish SPARQL 1.1 Query (ed draft at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/rq25.xml) as a Last Call Working Draft, after Andy fixes the a:b:c grammar issue to the satisfaction of Greg and Gavin (from RDF WG).
14:35:18 <bglimm> OK
14:35:30 <bglimm> :-)
14:35:37 <bglimm> progress made
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14:35:54 <Zakim> +Olivier
14:35:56 <Zakim> -Olivier
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14:35:57 <Zakim> Attendees were Olivier
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