IRC log of wcag2ict on 2012-07-03
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 2428
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- ok, trackbot; I see WAI_(WCAG2ICT)10:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
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- Meeting: WCAG2ICT Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 03 July 2012
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- chair: Mike_Pluke
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- scribe: Andi
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- agenda+ Action item review http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/track/actions/open
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- WAI_(WCAG2ICT)10:00AM has now started
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- agenda+ Return to June 22nd Meeting Prep Survey, to finish 3.1.2 Language of Parts https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/JUN052012/results#xq8
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- + +1.571.296.aaaa
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- +Andi_Snow_Weaver
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- +??P10
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- agenda- Return to June 22nd Meeting Prep Survey, to finish 3.1.2 Language of Parts https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/JUN052012/results#xq8
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- s|agenda- Return to June 22nd Meeting Prep Survey, to finish 3.1.2 Language of Parts https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/JUN052012/results#xq8||
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- +Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- zakim, .aaaa is Allen_Hoffman
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- sorry, BBailey, I do not recognize a party named '.aaaa'
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- zakim, aaaa is Allen_Hoffman
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- +Allen_Hoffman; got it
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- +??P14
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- +Mary_Jo_Mueller
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- +Cooper
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- agenda+ Return to June 5th Meeting Prep Survey, starting with 3.1.1 Language of Page https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/JUN052012/results#xq8
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- +Kiran_Keja
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- +??P20
- 14:02:13 [Andi]
- agenda+ Return to June 22nd Meeting Prep Survey, to finish 3.1.2 Language of Parts https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/JUN222012/results#xq1
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- zakim, ??P10 is Mike_Pluke
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- +Mike_Pluke; got it
- 14:02:26 [janina]
- zakim, mute me
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- sorry, janina, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
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- zakim, ??P20 is Janina_Sajka
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- +Janina_Sajka; got it
- 14:02:43 [Andi]
- agenda+ Re-survey on 2.4.2 Page Titled https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/JUL032012/results
- 14:02:43 [janina]
- zakim, mute me
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- Janina_Sajka should now be muted
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- +Judy
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/03-wcag2ict-minutes.html Andi
- 14:03:22 [MichaelC]
- zakim, ??P14 is Loïc_Martínez_Normand
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- +Loïc_Martínez_Normand; got it
- 14:04:46 [Andi]
- zakim, next ite
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- I don't understand 'next ite', Andi
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1. "Action item review http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/track/actions/open" taken up [from Andi]
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- action-17?
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- ACTION-17 -- Gregg Vanderheiden to clarify when WCAG 2.0 Understanding document is likely to be published with these updates -- due 2012-07-03 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/track/actions/17
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- q+
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- q-
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- AS: WCAG will update Understanding document as an "Editor's Draft"
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- AS: can't publish upated "Public Working Draft" of a W3C Note
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- JB: want to make it clear that for the WCAG2ICT document, even though it will be a W3C Note, we can still publish a "Public Working Draft"
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- JB: ... for review
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- GV: will get comments on the WCAG2ICT public working draft - will have to address comments in addition to continuing our work
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- close action 17
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- s/close action 17//
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2. "Return to June 22nd Meeting Prep Survey, to finish 3.1.2 Language of Parts https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/JUN052012/results#xq8" taken up [from Andi]
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- zakim, close item
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- I don't understand 'close item', Andi
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 2 closed
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- I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 3. Return to June 5th Meeting Prep Survey, starting with 3.1.1 Language of Page https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/JUN052012/results#xq8 [from Andi]
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3. "Return to June 5th Meeting Prep Survey, starting with 3.1.1 Language of Page https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/JUN052012/results#xq8" taken up [from Andi]
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- q+
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- q+
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- q+
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- q+ Al_Hoffman
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- q-
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- q- Al_Hoffman
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- ack Andi
- 14:14:22 [BBailey]
- q+ to ask about difference between "software" and "software product"
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- +Pierce_Crowell
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- AS: Does screen reader use the locale information the same way it does the lang attribute on HTML
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- AH: Doesn't think it does
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- GV: under GPII, it will
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- GV: normally set OS and screen reader to same language
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- s/it does the lang attribute on HTML/it does the lang attribute on HTML?/
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- GV: issue of support in document formats for input and output formats
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- -Janina_Sajka
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- KK: concerned about using "document or software product" - should just be "document"
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- q+
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- ack Kiran
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- zakim, call janina
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- ok, janina; the call is being made
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- +Janina
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- q+
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- -Janina
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- OK, sorry
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- I'll retry sip
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- +??P20
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- zakim, ??P20 is Janina_Sajka
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- +Janina_Sajka; got it
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- zakim, mute me
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- Janina_Sajka should now be muted
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- q+
- 14:20:38 [Andi]
- GV: back to the question of locale - if something is programmatically exposed but there is no AT that accesses it, it's not "accessibility supported"
- 14:21:16 [Andi]
- GV: if software exposes and there is no AT that uses it, then the SC can't be met
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- GV: AT doesn't move from machine to machine, people don't generally change their locale on a given machine
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- GV: not sure AT would ever need to determine the language, may need to defer this one
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- q+ Al_Hoffman
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- ack bbailey
- 14:22:37 [Zakim]
- BBailey, you wanted to ask about difference between "software" and "software product"
- 14:23:05 [Andi]
- BB: some places we say "document or software" - here now we're saying "document or software PRODUCT"
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- ack mike
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- MP: M376 came up with two interpretations
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- MP: only applicable for formats that support a way to specify the human language of the document
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- +q
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- ack loic
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- LM: regarding separate languages for input and output purposes, example of Spanish form that you have to complete in English
- 14:28:17 [janina]
- Loic's issue should be handled by inline lang ml
- 14:28:40 [Andi]
- LM: regarding the locale issue, many software applications don't care about languages - they are written for a particular language, don't provide several languages
- 14:29:06 [Andi]
- LM: if your application is the same as the platform you are running on, you don't have to do anything else
- 14:29:44 [Andi]
- LM: suggests separating "document or software product"
- 14:30:00 [Andi]
- GV: if you separate it, we have to define what line we are separating on
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- q?
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- ack Judy
- 14:31:40 [Andi]
- JB: want to make sure the language doesn't lock in defaults - not sure, based on current language, what the result would be
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- JB: don't want to make it harder for people to get around the system
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- ack al
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- ack Al_Hoffman
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- q+
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- AH: think we do need to separate documents from software and this is a perfect example of why
- 14:32:54 [Andi]
- AH: straight line requirement to HTML and Web - everybody knows exactly what to do
- 14:33:19 [Mike]
- q+
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- AH: when we take this outside the Web environment, things are much less known
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- AH: can set input language in MS Office, will accept it but doesn't tag it in the document
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- ack Pierce
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- +[Oracle]
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- -Janina_Sajka
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- PC: we are already defining electronic documents that are not interactive beyond simple hyperlinks
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- Guess being muted fools SIP into thinking the call is inactive!
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- zakim, [Oracle] is Peter_Korn
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- +Peter_Korn; got it
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- +??P20
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- PC: +1 that we need to define documents and software
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- zakim, ??P20 is Janina_Sajka
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- +Janina_Sajka; got it
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- zakim, mute me
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- Janina_Sajka should now be muted
- 14:37:15 [Andi]
- PC: localization is not the same thing - app developer decides what locales their software supports
- 14:37:28 [korn]
- q?
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- ack gregg
- 14:37:42 [Kiran]
- q+
- 14:38:19 [Andi]
- GV: tried in the beginning to separate documents from software - not accepted because separation doesn't exist anywhere else
- 14:41:44 [Kiran]
- q-
- 14:41:55 [Andi]
- MP: shouldn't be trying to delineate documents and software across all the SC's but on this particular one, we may need to
- 14:42:00 [Andi]
- ack mike
- 14:42:47 [korn]
- q+
- 14:43:26 [Andi]
- GV: regarding the issue of locale not being supported by AT, addressable in the future through personalization
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- GV: this problem doesn't arise in the same way for software that it does for Web pages
- 14:45:14 [Andi]
- PK: there are at least two platforms and one AT that are able to deal with language information that is encoded in documents and software
- 14:46:07 [Zakim]
- -Allen_Hoffman
- 14:46:48 [Andi]
- PK: locale need only be encoded where it is different from the platform - that's the only time it is needed
- 14:47:25 [Andi]
- ack korn
- 14:48:44 [Andi]
- GV: accessibility support has to be true for your users
- 14:49:10 [Judy]
- zakim, who's here?
- 14:49:10 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Bruce_Bailey, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Mike_Pluke, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loïc_Martínez_Normand, Mary_Jo_Mueller, Cooper, Kiran_Keja, Judy, Pierce_Crowell, Peter_Korn,
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- ... Janina_Sajka (muted)
- 14:49:13 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see korn, Pierce, Kiran, greggvanderheiden, MaryJo, janina, loicmn, Mike, BBailey, Judy, Zakim, RRSAgent, Andi, MichaelC, trackbot
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- q+
- 14:50:59 [Andi]
- GV: one possible solution - regulatory process can help us solve this - key phrase "it is supported in some places but not in others"
- 14:51:19 [korn]
- I'll volunteer...
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- -Janina_Sajka
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- +??P7
- 14:52:01 [janina]
- zakim, ??P7 is Janina_Sajka
- 14:52:01 [Zakim]
- +Janina_Sajka; got it
- 14:52:08 [janina]
- zakim, mute me
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- Janina_Sajka should now be muted
- 14:52:16 [Andi]
- ack korn
- 14:53:51 [Andi]
- action: Gregg to work with Andi, Peter, Kiran to draft new proposal for 3.1.1 and 3.1.2
- 14:53:51 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-25 - Work with Andi, Peter, Kiran to draft new proposal for 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 [on Gregg Vanderheiden - due 2012-07-10].
- 14:54:21 [korn]
- q+
- 14:55:35 [Andi]
- zakim, next item
- 14:55:35 [Zakim]
- I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Andi
- 14:55:56 [Andi]
- ack korn
- 14:56:53 [Andi]
- PK: in software context, this is almost a AAA requirement - suggests seeking permission from WCAG to say that something doesn't apply
- 14:57:14 [Mike]
- q+
- 14:57:40 [Andi]
- GV: applicability is at the regulatory level, not our level
- 14:58:22 [Pierce]
- +q
- 14:58:33 [Andi]
- GV: W3C is not chartered to say anything does or doesn't apply outside of Web
- 14:58:52 [Judy]
- q?
- 14:59:25 [Andi]
- ack mike
- 14:59:54 [Andi]
- MP: M376 will almost certainly come to the conclusion that it's not applicable
- 15:00:11 [BBailey]
- q+
- 15:00:31 [Andi]
- GV: could say "only way to interpret this would be that it would mean the following", next layer up (regulatory) would say that's not reasonable
- 15:00:36 [korn]
- Should we unmute Al, so he can raise his hand if he wants to join in?
- 15:00:56 [Andi]
- PC: think it's perfectly fine to say "we cannot find a reliable way to reply this to software"
- 15:01:10 [Judy]
- zakim, who's on the phone?
- 15:01:11 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Bruce_Bailey, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Mike_Pluke, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loïc_Martínez_Normand, Mary_Jo_Mueller, Cooper, Kiran_Keja, Judy, Pierce_Crowell, Peter_Korn,
- 15:01:11 [Zakim]
- ... Janina_Sajka (muted)
- 15:01:21 [Andi]
- s/Should we unmute Al, so he can raise his hand if he wants to join in?//
- 15:01:27 [BBailey]
- s/reply this to software/apply this to software/
- 15:01:40 [Judy]
- q+
- 15:01:57 [Andi]
- ack PC
- 15:02:01 [Andi]
- ack Pierce
- 15:02:38 [greggvanderheiden]
- q+
- 15:02:46 [Andi]
- BB: think the TF should say something if they think it's unreasonable to apply something
- 15:02:50 [Andi]
- ack bb
- 15:02:56 [Andi]
- ack judy
- 15:04:04 [Andi]
- JB: go with a statement that "it's hard to figure out what to do with this" in our initial review, will get comments that may help
- 15:04:43 [Andi]
- ack gregg
- 15:05:04 [Andi]
- GV: reminder that this document is an informative note, regs can't reference it because it's not normative
- 15:05:46 [Andi]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4. "Return to June 22nd Meeting Prep Survey, to finish 3.1.2 Language of Parts https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/JUN222012/results#xq1" taken up [from Andi]
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 4 closed
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- I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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- 5. Re-survey on 2.4.2 Page Titled https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/JUL032012/results [from Andi]
- 15:05:57 [Andi]
- zakim, next item
- 15:05:57 [Zakim]
- agendum 5. "Re-survey on 2.4.2 Page Titled https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/JUL032012/results" taken up [from Andi]
- 15:07:13 [greggvanderheiden]
- q+
- 15:07:23 [Zakim]
- +Peter_Korn.a
- 15:07:33 [korn]
- zakim, Peter_Korn.a is Peter_Korn
- 15:07:33 [Zakim]
- +Peter_Korn; got it
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- -Peter_Korn
- 15:08:59 [greggvanderheiden]
- q+
- 15:09:05 [Andi]
- ack gregg
- 15:09:27 [korn]
- q+
- 15:09:56 [Mike]
- q+
- 15:10:49 [loicmn]
- +q
- 15:11:29 [Andi]
- GV: don't think we can use one phrase everywhere - have to look at the intent and see how the intent plays out in different context
- 15:12:38 [Andi]
- GV: maybe "documents and software" is what we try to use - more specific version in those SC where it's too general
- 15:13:20 [korn]
- q?
- 15:13:27 [Andi]
- ack korn
- 15:15:32 [Andi]
- ack mike
- 15:16:21 [Andi]
- MP: gets complicated if we don't have a term to map it to - introduces a lot of other terms that people might not know
- 15:17:06 [greggvanderheiden]
- q+
- 15:18:15 [Andi]
- MP: M376 team had trouble trying to use "software"
- 15:19:08 [Andi]
- ack loic
- 15:19:47 [Andi]
- LM: can live with "software" replacing "web pages" in some SC but think we need a replacement in 2.4.2
- 15:20:11 [korn]
- Proposal: For software aspects of products, the precise analog to "web page" is difficult to define precisely and absolutely. However, the programmatically determined name (required by Success Criterion 4.1.2 for every user interface component) would also be considered a title for any window, frame, or other explicit grouping of user interface components. Thus for software, conforming to 4.1.2 would also mean conformance to this success criterion
- 15:20:15 [korn]
- q+
- 15:20:15 [Andi]
- LM: don't want just one title for software, want individual titles for components in software
- 15:21:09 [Andi]
- ack gregg
- 15:21:27 [Mike]
- q+
- 15:21:44 [Andi]
- GV: agree that there are some SC that we can't use such a general term as "document or software"
- 15:23:08 [Andi]
- GV: perhaps regulatory layer can decide that they want to define static documents as those that don't have any interactivity other than links
- 15:23:39 [Andi]
- GV: "software package" is set of products from an organization that are promoted as a "set"
- 15:24:11 [Andi]
- GV: intended to work together in some fashion
- 15:24:28 [korn]
- q?
- 15:25:20 [Andi]
- ack korn
- 15:28:13 [Andi]
- ack mike
- 15:28:14 [loicmn]
- q+
- 15:28:34 [loicmn]
- What about "User interface elements containing all user interface elements have titles that describe topic or purpose"?
- 15:30:14 [Andi]
- ack loic
- 15:30:49 [korn]
- q+
- 15:31:26 [Zakim]
- -Kiran_Keja
- 15:32:01 [Andi]
- action: Peter to draft new proposal for 2.4.2 to try to address Loic's suggestion
- 15:32:01 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-26 - Draft new proposal for 2.4.2 to try to address Loic's suggestion [on Peter Korn - due 2012-07-10].
- 15:32:39 [Zakim]
- -Pierce_Crowell
- 15:32:58 [Zakim]
- -Judy
- 15:33:00 [Zakim]
- -Andi_Snow_Weaver
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- -Loïc_Martínez_Normand
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- -Cooper
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- -Janina_Sajka
- 15:33:03 [Zakim]
- -Peter_Korn.aa
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- -Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- -Bruce_Bailey
- 15:33:10 [Andi]
- zakim, bye
- 15:33:10 [Zakim]
- leaving. As of this point the attendees were Bruce_Bailey, +1.571.296.aaaa, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Allen_Hoffman, Mary_Jo_Mueller, Cooper, Kiran_Keja, Mike_Pluke,
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- ... Janina_Sajka, Judy, Loïc_Martínez_Normand, Pierce_Crowell, Janina, Peter_Korn
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/03-wcag2ict-minutes.html Andi
- 15:33:22 [janina]
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- 15:52:28 [Andi]
- regrets: David_MacDonald
- 15:52:37 [Andi]
- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/03-wcag2ict-minutes.html Andi
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- present+ Loïc_Martínez_Normand
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- rrsagent, make minutes
- 20:23:39 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/03-wcag2ict-minutes.html Andi
- 20:24:26 [Andi]
- present+ Janina_Sajka, Peter_Korn
- 20:24:30 [Andi]
- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/03-wcag2ict-minutes.html Andi
- 20:24:53 [Andi]
- present+ Pierce Crowell
- 20:28:27 [Andi]
- s/OK, sorry//
- 20:28:47 [Andi]
- s/Pierce Crowell/Pierce_Crowell/
- 20:28:57 [Andi]
- s/I'll retry sip//
- 20:29:54 [Andi]
- s/Loic's issue/Loïc's issue/
- 20:30:50 [Andi]
- s/Guess being muted fools SIP into thinking the call is inactive!//
- 20:31:37 [Andi]
- s/I'll volunteer...//
- 20:33:46 [Andi]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 20:33:46 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/03-wcag2ict-minutes.html Andi
- 20:34:26 [Andi]
- s|Return to June 22nd Meeting Prep Survey, to finish 3.1.2 Language of Parts https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/55145/JUN052012/results#xq8||
- 20:34:52 [Andi]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 20:34:52 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/03-wcag2ict-minutes.html Andi
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