IRC log of html-media on 2012-06-26

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15:01:18 [RRSAgent]: RRSAgent has joined #html-media
15:01:18 [RRSAgent]: logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/06/26-html-media-irc
15:01:20 [trackbot]: RRSAgent, make logs 185
15:01:22 [trackbot]: Zakim, this will be 63342
15:01:22 [Zakim]: ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()11:00AM scheduled to start now
15:01:23 [trackbot]: Meeting: HTML Media Teleconference
15:01:23 [trackbot]: Date: 26 June 2012
15:01:43 [paulc]: zakim, who is on the phone?
15:01:43 [Zakim]: HTML_WG()11:00AM has not yet started, paulc
15:01:44 [glenn]: zakim, who's on the phone?
15:01:45 [Zakim]: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Martin, ddorwin, adrianba, duncanr, jasonlewis, glenn, Billy, paulc, yang, nixu, MikeSmith, trackbot
15:01:45 [Zakim]: HTML_WG()11:00AM has not yet started, glenn
15:01:47 [Zakim]: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Martin, ddorwin, adrianba, duncanr, jasonlewis, glenn, Billy, paulc, yang, nixu, MikeSmith, trackbot
15:02:08 [glenn]: yes
15:02:20 [Martin]: zakim, this is media
15:02:22 [Zakim]: ok, Martin; that matches HTML_WG()11:00AM
15:02:26 [Zakim]: +??P26
15:02:28 [kstreeter]: kstreeter has joined #html-media
15:02:33 [Zakim]: +pladd
15:02:44 [paulc]: zakim, who is on the phone?
15:02:49 [Zakim]: On the phone I see ??P31, +1.206.664.aaaa, duncanr, [GVoice], ??P16 (muted), +1.352.870.aabb, [Microsoft], markw, +1.303.503.aacc, Martin, +1.858.677.aadd, +1.858.735.aaee, ??P26,
15:02:58 [Zakim]: ... pladd
15:03:02 [Zakim]: +[Microsoft.a]
15:03:02 [kstreeter]: zakim, aaee is me
15:03:03 [glenn]: zakim, ??p16 is glenn
15:03:04 [pladd]: pladd has joined #html-media
15:03:04 [adrianba]: zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
15:03:08 [paulc]: zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
15:03:11 [Zakim]: +kstreeter; got it
15:03:11 [Clarke]: Clarke has joined #html-media
15:03:13 [Zakim]: +glenn; got it
15:03:15 [Zakim]: +adrianba; got it
15:03:21 [Zakim]: +paulc; got it
15:03:25 [yang]: zakim, ??P31 is me
15:03:26 [Clarke]: zakim, who is on the phone?
15:03:33 [Zakim]: +yang; got it
15:03:38 [Zakim]: On the phone I see yang, +1.206.664.aaaa, duncanr, [GVoice], glenn (muted), +1.352.870.aabb, [Microsoft], markw, +1.303.503.aacc, Martin, +1.858.677.aadd, kstreeter, ??P26, pladd,
15:03:38 [ddorwin]: zakim, [GVoice] is me
15:03:41 [Zakim]: ... adrianba
15:03:41 [Petr]: Petr has joined #html-media
15:03:43 [Zakim]: [Microsoft] has paulc
15:03:53 [Zakim]: +ddorwin; got it
15:03:57 [jasonlewis]: Zakim, i am aaaa
15:03:57 [Zakim]: - +1.303.503.aacc
15:04:02 [nixu]: nixu, Disney Technology Solutions and Services, i'm the 352 number
15:04:06 [[tm]]: [tm] has joined #html-media
15:04:09 [mahesh]: mahesh has joined #html-media
15:04:13 [Zakim]: + +1.303.503.aaff
15:04:15 [Zakim]: +jasonlewis; got it
15:04:25 [Zakim]: +johnsim-microsoft
15:04:26 [Petr]: 858 is Petr Peterka
15:04:36 [Clarke]: zakim, aacc is BobLund
15:04:38 [Zakim]: sorry, Clarke, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
15:04:44 [glenn]: zakim, aadd is Petr
15:04:44 [Zakim]: +Petr; got it
15:04:45 [adrianba]: zakim, aadd is Petr
15:04:46 [Zakim]: sorry, adrianba, I do not recognize a party named 'aadd'
15:04:55 [Zakim]: + +1.415.832.aagg
15:04:57 [[MS]Johnsim]: [MS]Johnsim has joined #html-media
15:05:26 [paulc]: zakim, who is on the phone?
15:05:26 [Zakim]: On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), +1.352.870.aabb, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, ??P26, pladd, adrianba, +1.303.503.aaff,
15:05:30 [Zakim]: ... johnsim-microsoft, +1.415.832.aagg
15:05:30 [Zakim]: [Microsoft] has paulc
15:05:35 [Zakim]: +whitech
15:05:38 [glenn]: zakim, aagg is Adobe
15:05:38 [Zakim]: +Adobe; got it
15:05:44 [Clarke]: zakim, ??P26 is me
15:05:44 [Zakim]: +Clarke; got it
15:05:51 [adrianba]: zakim, aabb is nixu
15:05:51 [Zakim]: +nixu; got it
15:05:54 [whitech]: whitech has joined #html-media
15:06:05 [MikeSmithW3C]: I will be on IRC only, today, from my mobile
15:06:18 [Clarke]: zakim +1.303.503.aacc is BobLund
15:06:24 [Zakim]: +Mark_Vickers
15:06:31 [Zakim]: + +1.818.560.aahh
15:06:36 [adrianba]: zakim, who is on the phone?
15:06:37 [glenn]: zakim, aacc is BobLund
15:06:38 [Zakim]: On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), nixu, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, Clarke, pladd, adrianba, +1.303.503.aaff,
15:06:38 [Zakim]: ... johnsim-microsoft, Adobe, whitech, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh
15:06:38 [Zakim]: [Microsoft] has paulc
15:06:38 [Zakim]: sorry, glenn, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
15:06:51 [paulc]: zakim, who is on the phone?
15:06:51 [Zakim]: On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), nixu, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, Clarke, pladd, adrianba, +1.303.503.aaff,
15:06:55 [Zakim]: ... johnsim-microsoft, Adobe, whitech, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh
15:06:55 [Zakim]: [Microsoft] has paulc
15:07:00 [Clarke]: zakim, +1.303.503.aaff is BobLund
15:07:00 [Zakim]: +BobLund; got it
15:07:03 [MikeSmithW3C]: paulc, so if you need me for anything please ping me here on irc
15:07:08 [mahesh]: <Zakim>, +1-818-560-0523, it's me
15:07:21 [paulc]: zakim, who is on the phone?
15:07:21 [Zakim]: On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), nixu, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, Clarke, pladd, adrianba, BobLund, johnsim-microsoft, Adobe,
15:07:25 [Zakim]: ... whitech, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh
15:07:25 [Zakim]: [Microsoft] has paulc
15:07:27 [acolwell]: acolwell has joined #html-media
15:07:36 [paulc]: zakim, list the attendees
15:07:36 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'list the attendees', paulc
15:07:41 [mahesh]: I am on the phone
15:07:49 [suzie]: suzie has joined #html-media
15:07:51 [glenn]: zakim, who's on the phone?
15:07:51 [Zakim]: On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), nixu, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, Clarke, pladd, adrianba, BobLund, johnsim-microsoft, Adobe,
15:07:55 [Zakim]: ... whitech, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh
15:07:55 [Zakim]: [Microsoft] has paulc
15:07:58 [adrianba]: zakim, who is here?
15:07:59 [glenn]: zakim, who's here?
15:08:01 [Zakim]: On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), nixu, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, Clarke, pladd, adrianba, BobLund, johnsim-microsoft, Adobe,
15:08:01 [jasonlewis]: Zakim, list attendees
15:08:04 [Zakim]: ... whitech, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh
15:08:06 [SethHodgson]: SethHodgson has joined #html-media
15:08:06 [Zakim]: [Microsoft] has paulc
15:08:06 [whitech]: zakim, +1.858.485.aaii
15:08:08 [Zakim]: On IRC I see suzie, acolwell, whitech, [MS]Johnsim, mahesh, MikeSmithW3C, Petr, Clarke, pladd, kstreeter, RRSAgent, Zakim, Martin, ddorwin, adrianba, duncanr, jasonlewis, glenn,
15:08:12 [Zakim]: ... Billy, paulc, yang, nixu, MikeSmith, trackbot
15:08:13 [Zakim]: On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), nixu, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, Clarke, pladd, adrianba, BobLund, johnsim-microsoft, Adobe,
15:08:16 [Zakim]: ... whitech, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh
15:08:19 [Zakim]: [Microsoft] has paulc
15:08:20 [Zakim]: On IRC I see suzie, acolwell, whitech, [MS]Johnsim, mahesh, MikeSmithW3C, Petr, Clarke, pladd, kstreeter, RRSAgent, Zakim, Martin, ddorwin, adrianba, duncanr, jasonlewis, glenn,
15:08:23 [Zakim]: ... Billy, paulc, yang, nixu, MikeSmith, trackbot
15:08:25 [Zakim]: As of this point the attendees have been +1.206.664.aaaa, duncanr, +1.352.870.aabb, markw, +1.303.503.aacc, Martin, +1.858.677.aadd, +1.858.735.aaee, pladd, kstreeter, glenn,
15:08:31 [Zakim]: ... adrianba, paulc, yang, ddorwin, jasonlewis, johnsim-microsoft, Petr, +1.415.832.aagg, whitech, Adobe, Clarke, nixu, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh, BobLund
15:08:32 [mahesh]: <Zakim>, +1-818-560-0523 is mahesh
15:08:33 [Zakim]: +acolwell
15:08:35 [Zakim]: I don't understand '+1.858.485.aaii', whitech
15:08:46 [mark_vickers]: mark_vickers has joined #html-media
15:09:26 [glenn]: zakim, aahh is mahesh
15:09:26 [Zakim]: +mahesh; got it
15:09:30 [adrianba]: zakim, aahh is mahesh
15:09:30 [Zakim]: sorry, adrianba, I do not recognize a party named 'aahh'
15:09:34 [jasonlewis]: Paul: Jason is scribe, Paul is Chair
15:09:41 [adrianba]: zakim, aaii is whitech
15:09:41 [Zakim]: sorry, adrianba, I do not recognize a party named 'aaii'
15:09:42 [paulc]: 26 attendees
15:10:31 [whitech]: zakim, 1.858.485.6060 is whitech
15:10:31 [Zakim]: sorry, whitech, I do not recognize a party named '1.858.485.6060'
15:10:51 [jasonlewis]: Paul: Topic discuss previous minutes, last meeting of this group 2 weeks ago. There has been some discussion on mailing lists.
15:11:01 [Zakim]: -BobLund
15:11:02 [jasonlewis]: Paul: Action items. There are none
15:11:18 [paulc]: Topic: Roll call
15:11:30 [paulc]: zakim, list attendees
15:11:31 [Zakim]: As of this point the attendees have been +1.206.664.aaaa, duncanr, +1.352.870.aabb, markw, +1.303.503.aacc, Martin, +1.858.677.aadd, +1.858.735.aaee, pladd, kstreeter, glenn,
15:11:31 [Zakim]: ... adrianba, paulc, yang, ddorwin, jasonlewis, johnsim-microsoft, Petr, +1.415.832.aagg, whitech, Adobe, Clarke, nixu, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh, BobLund, acolwell, mahesh
15:11:35 [SethHodgson]: zakim, 1.415.832.5191 is SethHodgson
15:11:35 [Zakim]: sorry, SethHodgson, I do not recognize a party named '1.415.832.5191'
15:11:40 [paulc]: Topic: previous minutes
15:11:41 [plh]: plh has joined #html-media
15:11:47 [Zakim]: +Plh
15:11:47 [paulc]: Noted
15:12:03 [jasonlewis]: Topic: Review Action Items
15:12:04 [glenn]: zakim, aagg is SethHodgson
15:12:04 [Zakim]: sorry, glenn, I do not recognize a party named 'aagg'
15:12:12 [kstreeter]: zakim, Adobe is SethHodgson
15:12:12 [Zakim]: +SethHodgson; got it
15:12:14 [jasonlewis]: Noted. No action required
15:12:21 [markw]: markw has joined #html-media
15:12:24 [jasonlewis]: Topic: Baseline Documents
15:12:31 [jasonlewis]: Noted
15:12:32 [glenn]: zakim, aahh is whitech
15:12:32 [Zakim]: sorry, glenn, I do not recognize a party named 'aahh'
15:12:48 [whitech]: zakim, +1.858.485.6060 is whitech
15:12:49 [Zakim]: sorry, whitech, I do not recognize a party named '+1.858.485.6060'
15:13:38 [jasonlewis]: Topic: Support for Multiple Init Values from a Single Session
15:13:47 [glenn]: zakim, who's on the phone?
15:13:47 [Zakim]: On the phone I see yang, jasonlewis, duncanr, ddorwin, glenn (muted), nixu, [Microsoft], markw, Martin, Petr, kstreeter, Clarke, pladd, adrianba, johnsim-microsoft, SethHodgson,
15:13:50 [Zakim]: ... whitech, Mark_Vickers, mahesh, acolwell, Plh
15:13:50 [Zakim]: [Microsoft] has paulc
15:14:45 [jasonlewis]: Topic: Support for multiple initData values in a single session
15:14:51 [paulc]: See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2012Jun/0056.html
15:14:52 [yang]: q+
15:15:56 [adrianba]: q+
15:17:04 [jasonlewis]: David: Do we need multiple initData? And to associate with sessions.
15:17:34 [jasonlewis]: David: Associating messages and tracking lifetimes is simpler if we only allow on initData
15:17:48 [paulc]: ack yang
15:17:49 [ddorwin]: s/on/one
15:17:57 [ddorwin]: …per session ID
15:18:39 [Zakim]: +BobLund
15:18:46 [jasonlewis]: Yang: Currently initData is one-to-one mapping, if changed then we may need to multiple key per session
15:19:07 [jasonlewis]: Yang: Is there a relative mapping between initData and Key?
15:19:08 [adrianba]: rrsagent, make minutes
15:19:08 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/26-html-media-minutes.html adrianba
15:19:10 [markw]: q+
15:19:24 [adrianba]: rrsagent, make logs public
15:19:40 [jasonlewis]: David: initData may be a Key , or reference to key.
15:19:56 [paulc]: ack adrian
15:20:02 [jasonlewis]: David: there may be some issue of replay attacks, but this is responsibility of CDM
15:21:05 [jasonlewis]: Adrian: my preference is to keep things as simple as possible. Haven't seen a compelling enough reason to move away from single initData. Prefer to keep existing structure until there is a hard requirement needing this to change.
15:21:06 [paulc]: ack markw
15:21:32 [yang]: agree with Adrian
15:21:51 [jasonlewis]: Mark W: There is a scenario with multiple calls and multiple keys.
15:22:29 [jasonlewis]: Mark W: Question is how to coordinate these requests..as a bundle? then there will need to be more information from initData
15:22:54 [Martin]: +Martin
15:23:06 [Martin]: q+
15:23:08 [Martin]: if an initData and key request map to a single request / transaction then a one-to-one mapping is simpler and there is no reason multiple KIDs can't be included in a single "key request"
15:23:12 [jasonlewis]: Mark W: Impact is whether you can write generic application without knowledge of how media keys and structure were handled in the files
15:23:21 [paulc]: ack martin
15:23:35 [markw]: q+
15:23:42 [paulc]: ack markw
15:23:45 [jasonlewis]: Martin: It seems one-to-one mapping is simpler
15:24:14 [jasonlewis]: Mark W: issue is that initData may not actually require delivery of new key
15:24:49 [jasonlewis]: Mark W: Application needs to know if it needs to create to be a session
15:25:04 [jasonlewis]: Paul: What does current spec say about this?
15:25:07 [yang]: q+
15:25:22 [ddorwin]: the current spec assumes one session at a time I believe
15:25:23 [paulc]: ack yang
15:25:24 [jasonlewis]: Mark W: Does say anything about key exchange if CDM already knows the key data
15:25:32 [adrianba]: q+
15:26:12 [paulc]: ack adrian
15:26:20 [markw]: q+
15:27:04 [yang]: we do not need multiple needkey event in 1 session,even iif we support multiple initdata in one session
15:27:39 [yang]: because it is meaningless for application to see the following needkey event because we only need 1 key in this session.
15:28:17 [jasonlewis]: Andrian: Mark outlined one scenario that was possible. But are we ok with keeping it simple for now until a hard use case arises that justifies this
15:28:29 [jasonlewis]: s/this/this?
15:28:59 [paulc]: This is a sub-issue of https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16613
15:29:11 [paulc]: ack mark
15:29:39 [adrianba]: s/Andrian/Adrian/
15:30:03 [jasonlewis]: Mark V: if we applied the initData in createNewSession method...that would give CDM option to decide whether new data would be needed
15:30:24 [jasonlewis]: David: Like this
15:31:08 [jasonlewis]: Adrian: Have questions about this...and general object oriented discussion
15:31:14 [markw]: createNewSession would return an existing session object if no new message exchange was required based on the provided initData
15:31:29 [jasonlewis]: Topic: object-oriented design representing sessions as objects
15:31:34 [paulc]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2012Jun/0054.html
15:31:39 [markw]: we would still need generateKeyRequest() to trigger the events as we need time to register event handlers
15:31:44 [ddorwin]: One question is whether generateKeyRequest() should create the session object or be a method on that object. Having it create the object is attractive because it enforces calling order without explicit checks.
15:31:45 [adrianba]: q+
15:33:29 [jasonlewis]: David: if we did have createSession with initData ... and the CDM returns session... There may be an issue if this is asynchronous in the CDM
15:33:54 [ddorwin]: The biggest problem with geneerateKeyRequest() creating the object is that it requires the following pattern:
15:33:54 [ddorwin]: var obj = doSomethingThatFiresEventFoo();
15:33:54 [ddorwin]: obj.onfoo = myhandler;
15:33:54 [ddorwin]: In other words, the constructor can fire events at the object it is creating that we want to handle.
15:34:47 [paulc]: ack adrian
15:35:00 [jasonlewis]: Paul: Let's please get everyone's opinion
15:35:21 [jasonlewis]: Adrian: My opinion is that we should pick the object-oriented approach
15:35:53 [Martin]: my opinion is we should pick the object oriented approach
15:37:12 [jasonlewis]: Adrian: Design we proposed allows JS to iterate through the systems that a website supports... originally in spec this was done by calling createKeyRequest multiple times.
15:37:33 [jasonlewis]: s/createKeyRequest/generateKeyRequest
15:37:55 [jasonlewis]: Adrian: seems that we throw away objects very quickly
15:38:19 [jasonlewis]: David: If we added initData we may have been able to simply get null objects
15:38:53 [markw]: What if you do support the keysystem but the initData does not contain information for that keysystem ?
15:39:01 [jasonlewis]: Adrian: it will still be necessary to allow async behavior. But would like to support fast fail
15:39:06 [markw]: q+
15:39:52 [jasonlewis]: David: issue; we would have to start throwing errors at the object
15:40:29 [Zakim]: -Plh
15:40:42 [paulc]: ack mark
15:40:43 [ddorwin]: q+
15:40:54 [jasonlewis]: Mark W: What if you do support the keysystem but the initData does not contain information for that keysystem ?
15:41:39 [jasonlewis]: Mark W: do you have to fire up the CDM to determine support? or can the browser do this based on initData?
15:41:41 [Zakim]: -markw
15:42:26 [Zakim]: +markw
15:42:41 [jasonlewis]: Paul: The spec doesn't make it mandatory to spin up CDM, so this is optional from browser...but probably shoul
15:43:57 [adrianba]: q?
15:43:59 [paulc]: ack dd
15:44:08 [ddorwin]: What type of error should occur in the case where we have to spin up the CDM?
15:44:08 [ddorwin]: synchronous null session object or asynchronous keyerror at the object?
15:44:57 [jasonlewis]: Mark W: seems like both; if browser can determine quickly , but also need to support async when CDM has to be started to determine it
15:45:02 [ddorwin]: we can specify both types of errors are possible.
15:45:31 [jasonlewis]: Paul: This isn't yet included in proposal
15:46:05 [adrianba]: q+
15:46:30 [markw]: q+
15:46:33 [paulc]: adk adrian
15:46:37 [paulc]: ack adrian
15:46:41 [jasonlewis]: David: ran into roadblock that object created also is event handler; is this pattern acceptable?
15:47:29 [markw]: q-
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15:47:36 [jasonlewis]: Adrian: this is a common pattern. if you add event listener to object then events are queued. May feel odd, but it is supported by the way event handlers are implemented
15:47:49 [jasonlewis]: Paul: is there another API that has similar handler
15:48:18 [markw]: It still might be better for the HTMLMediaElement to be "createSession" and just remove generateKeyRequest altogether
15:48:19 [jasonlewis]: Adrian: XHR is similar;
15:48:23 [ddorwin]: Okay, great. I wasn't sure, but that helps a lot.
15:48:24 [SethHodgson]: +1 on this being a common JavaScript idiom.
15:48:48 [adrianba]: q?
15:49:05 [markw]: s/HTMLMediaElement/HTMLMediaElement method
15:49:06 [jasonlewis]: David: Yes, i can find the Websocket api/implementation for reference
15:49:54 [jasonlewis]: David: sessionId is a part of the object, but it would have to stay not valid .. until we receive the first key response
15:50:40 [jasonlewis]: Paul: a) Have we answered the questions that we've talked in email? or b) do we have enough data to decide how to implement this ?
15:50:48 [jasonlewis]: David: Yes
15:51:07 [glenn]: is that initData object mutable or immutable?
15:51:54 [SethHodgson]: Should be, or should be spec'ed as only read @ input time
15:51:56 [jasonlewis]: David: it is an input. So it's currently not exposed.
15:52:06 [glenn]: but if it has members, does mutating those members mean that the changes are intended to be used?
15:52:10 [glenn]: i'm on the phone, but mutede
15:52:16 [glenn]: s/mutede/muted/
15:52:31 [jasonlewis]: Paul: trying to clarify; is it read only?
15:52:39 [glenn]: ok, so there is no initData object per se?
15:53:01 [adrianba]: initData is a Uint8Array
15:53:09 [jasonlewis]: David: initData is blob, that probably came from a file
15:53:40 [jasonlewis]: David: session object is mutable, but properties like sessionid are read only
15:53:41 [adrianba]: generateKeyRequest reads the data and then uses it - it doesn't keep a reference
15:53:45 [glenn]: ok, thanks;
15:53:59 [Zakim]: -mahesh
15:54:11 [glenn]: be careful about mutability / liveness of session object
15:55:01 [jasonlewis]: Topic: Requiring generateKeyRequest() in all cases for all key systems
15:55:13 [jasonlewis]: Paul: Solved by previous discussion
15:55:21 [adrianba]: q+ to ask another question on the object
15:56:09 [jasonlewis]: Topic: Next Steps
15:56:40 [adrianba]: q?
15:56:49 [jasonlewis]: Paul: seems that we need a change proposal for items a, b, c from agenda and bring this to meeting by July 10
15:57:14 [jasonlewis]: David: I will get this out today
15:57:23 [jasonlewis]: Topic: Any other business
15:58:01 [jasonlewis]: Adrian: is it possible to get from keySession object from mediaElement
15:58:17 [Martin]: +1 to being able to get from key session object to media element
15:58:33 [Zakim]: -Mark_Vickers
15:58:34 [jasonlewis]: Adrian: if an event fires, how do you associate it with the mediaElement
15:59:02 [adrianba]: rrsagent, make minutes
15:59:02 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/26-html-media-minutes.html adrianba
15:59:08 [jasonlewis]: Paul: Is there a volunteer scribe for next week?
15:59:10 [Zakim]: -BobLund
15:59:29 [Zakim]: -pladd
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15:59:42 [jasonlewis]: Paul: Meeting adjourned
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16:00:10 [adrianba]: zakim, bye
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16:00:12 [Zakim]: leaving. As of this point the attendees were +1.206.664.aaaa, duncanr, +1.352.870.aabb, markw, +1.303.503.aacc, Martin, +1.858.677.aadd, +1.858.735.aaee, pladd, kstreeter, glenn,
16:00:12 [Zakim]: ... adrianba, paulc, yang, ddorwin, jasonlewis, johnsim-microsoft, Petr, +1.415.832.aagg, whitech, Clarke, nixu, Mark_Vickers, +1.818.560.aahh, BobLund, acolwell, mahesh, Plh,
16:00:12 [Zakim]: ... SethHodgson
16:00:17 [adrianba]: rrsagent, make minutes
16:00:17 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/26-html-media-minutes.html adrianba
16:00:35 [adrianba]: Chair: Paul Cotton
16:00:38 [adrianba]: rrsagent, make minutes
16:00:38 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/26-html-media-minutes.html adrianba
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