W3C

Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference

20 Jun 2012

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Addison, Richard, Norbert, Gwyneth, Mati, Felix_(via_IRC)
Regrets
David
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips

Contents


Agenda and Minutes

Action Items

(AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS) study additional bidi controls proposal and express support or lack of support for it at Unicode

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

close ACTION-128

<trackbot> ACTION-128 Add member@ and bidi/cjk lists to tracker tracked lists closed

close ACTION-131

<trackbot> ACTION-131 Update the Activity about page etc to describe the adjusted use of the mailing lists and add information about tracker closed

Info Share

richard: has some info
... was at ML-Web LT workshop
... talked about linked ml data
... talked about additions to ITS v2

<r12a> Labra Gayo, José Emilio - Best Practices for Multilingual Linked Open Data - PDF

richard: and those will be pursued by that wg
... the above talk

<r12a> temporary link: http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/File:LABRA-JOSE-2012-06-11.pdf

richard: (temporary link to follow)
... basically an attempt to describe best practices for working with multilingual open data
... proposed to make into best practices document on our site
... some unanswered questions
... to publish as WG Note techniques document

matial: draw attention to PRI issue 231
... matching parentheses addendum to UBA
... seeking advice
... I have some comments

<Norbert> http://www.unicode.org/review/pri231/

<r12a> http://www.multilingualweb.eu/documents/luxembourg-workshop/luxembourg-workshop-report

richard: ... report on luxembourg workshop above
... good to watch the videos, since you get more info from them
... only 15 min. each.... working on links... avail soon

Charter review

https://www.w3.org/2012/05/i18n-recharter/core-charter.html

richard: PLH wants to take to W3M next wednesday
... so last chance to comment
... main difference is that we'll be supporting REC-track (with encoding document as our only such deliverable)

Norbert: list Webapps

addison: charmod on rec track or no?

gwyeth: when would it go into effect?

richard: (reviews process---W3M, AC reps, etc.)
... about two months??

Web Notifications

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2012AprJun/0116.html

The Web Notifications WG is planning to move Web Notifications to W3C Last Call meaning we don't intend to change it. But we might have missed something and would therefore appreciate your review of http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/notifications/raw-file/tip/Overview.html and any comments you might have at public-web-notification@w3.org.

last call published end of next week

<scribe> ACTION: addison: (AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS) review Web Notifications for revew at 27 June WG teleconference [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/20-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-132 - (AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS) review Web Notifications for revew at 27 June WG teleconference [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-06-27].

ACTION-132: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/notifications/raw-file/tip/Overview.html

<trackbot> ACTION-132 (AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS) review Web Notifications for revew at 27 June WG teleconference notes added

IRI and IRI bidi documents

http://www.w3.org/2012/06/13-i18n-minutes.html

Norbert: discussed more in general layout of IRIs with bidi
... it says "embed any IRIs in a LTR context"

addison: doesn't solve problems with dot and slash, though... only provides a directional base

gwyneth: hasn't had a chance to follow up with shawn steele until just now
... wants a different presentation that UBA

addison: problem is need for bidi controls to do that under UBA, so have leakage problem

norbert: to make progress, need some "interesting IRIs"
... and list of algorithms for rendering

<scribe> ACTION: addison: ping Adil about status of bidi IRI examples/tests and any documentation or efforts in that direction [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/20-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-133 - Ping Adil about status of bidi IRI examples/tests and any documentation or efforts in that direction [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-06-27].

AOB?

addison: for next week

richard: review Ruby document
... move to FPWD next week

Norbert: moving CSS Box Layout to last call... add to review radar

XLIFF v2

richard: XLIFF allowed namespaces
... and folks implemented core features of XLIFF using their own namespaces
... which is ugly/painful
... two proposals
... 1. drop namespaces
... 2. special elements like <meta> to express extensibility
... another proposal was keep both
... but tighten wording around namespaces to prevent recreating core features
... having a second vote on this
... think ITS and XLIFF should work closely together
... so get ITS concepts into XLIFF
... they hadn't thought about it
... proposed using namespaces to do this
... felix would be the best reporter

<fsasaki> for the record: I'm lurking on IRC, happy to take an action item to follow up on this - e.g. 1st a mail draft to our member list, then sending that mail etc. to XLIFF folks

<fsasaki> so feel free to give me AIs :)

not ready for that, felix... waiting outcome of vote

scribe: but I can make up AIs if you need me to

<fsasaki> OK

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: (AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS) review Web Notifications for revew at 27 June WG teleconference [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/20-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: ping Adil about status of bidi IRI examples/tests and any documentation or efforts in that direction [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/20-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
 
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